Share on Google Plus Share on Twitter Share on Facebook 4 Share on LinkedIn Share on PInterest Share on Fark! Share on Reddit Share on StumbleUpon Tell A Friend 8 (12 Shares)  
Printer Friendly Page Save As Favorite View Favorites View Article Stats   2 comments


The Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show Podcast

Glenn Greenwald; With Liberty and Justice for Some... and How the Occupy Movement Could Change Things

Podcast submitted by Rob Kall ()
Related Topic(s): ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; (more...) ; ; ; ; , Add Tags  (less...)

Must Read 1   Supported 1   Valuable 1  
View Ratings | Rate It

Permalink Headlined to H1 11/1/11

Become a Fan
  (283 fans)


listen on iTunes


Glenn Greenwald

blogger and columnist for Salon

With Liberty and Justice for Some: How the Law Is Used to Destroy Equality and Protect the Powerful

"the worst and most tyrannical government actions in Washington are equally supported on a fully bipartisan basis." [22]

VERY Rough Notes from the Interview

the quiet coup--- the takeover of American Democracy by its oligarchs-- like in russia, argentina-- 

The US has long been sermonizing to the world that countries where elites are not accountable 

goals; persuading fellow citizens of the depth and severity of it and need to act. 

Most exciting inspirational moment is the development of the Occupy movement. 

Two ways change can be effectuated

one-- within political system-- the problem once the perception is ossified that the political systems are rotten and not legitimate

the other way is  social disruption and unrest. 

The only kind of change that matters and that makes 

You're going to see increasing use of violence on the part of police and even federal forces. 

If the protest movement continues to grow, the government and police response will be more violence

Who are the bad guys?

the responsibility to prosecute lies with the executive branch and department of justice. 

Obama protects high level criminals and goes after whistleblowers.

Holder runs DOJ-- he started out looking like he'd be aggressive, but then stopped.

Have there been precedents set by letting elites off the hook?

Precedents can be set-- that whenever a political breaks the law it's better to protect them pardon them shield them. 

What about the connection of corporate personhood?

Corporate personhood-- corporations are collections of wealthy shareholders" 

How could it get worse?   

We see nations around the world where they have severe income and wealth inequality-- the m ore wealth, the more they try to expand their power. 

We've already seen riots and unrest and destruction in other societies

We're going to see unrest. destruction".

what is outcome inequality?   

analogy to race. accept inequality if the perception is winnings are earned. Problem comes when outcome appears illegitimate and happens. l

What about the private prison industry?

The existence of the private priison industry-- they work against reform of sentencing, drug laws-- 

Prison industries have a motivation to minimize cost and maximize profits

Are there legislators with bills drafted?

Problem is more culture and systemic than legislative".  Even if legislation was passed...

there are a couple of members of congress who have spoken out 

Jim Webb-- talks about how the US imprisons more people than anyone else in the world. 

What are you going to tell the Occupy people living in the tents in the occupied territories?

listen to the end of the interview to find out. 

Size: 13,712,227 -- 0 hrs, 28 min, 33 sec


listen on iTunes


You will need the Flash plug-in to use the Listen button.


Rob Kall is editor-in-chief, publisher and site architect of, President of Futurehealth, Inc, and an inventor. He hosts the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show, aired in the Metro Philly area on AM 1360, WNJC. Over 200 podcasts are archived for downloading here, or can be accessed from iTunes. Rob is also published regularly on the

Rob Kall Wikipedia Page

Rob is, with the first media winner of the Pillar Award for supporting Whistleblowers and the first amendment.

See more Rob Kall articles here and, older ones, here. To learn more about Rob and, check out A Voice For Truth - ROB KALL | OM Times Magazine and this article. For Rob's work in non-political realms mostly before 2000, see his C.V..  and here's an article on the Storycon Summit Meeting he founded and organized for eight years. Press coverage in the Wall Street Journal: Party's Left Pushes for a Seat at the Table

Here is a one hour radio interview where Rob was a guest- on Envision This, and here is the transcript. 

To watch Rob having a lively conversation with John Conyers, then Chair of the House Judiciary committee, click hereWatch Rob speaking on Bottom up economics at the Occupy G8 Economic Summit, here.

Follow Rob on Twitter & Facebook. His quotes are here

My articles express my personal opinion, not the opinion of this website.

The views expressed in this article are the sole responsibility of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of this website or its editors.

Follow Me on Twitter

Contact Author Contact Editor View Authors' Articles


The time limit for entering new comments on this podcast has expired.

This limit can be removed. Our paid membership program is designed to give you many benefits, such as removing this time limit. To learn more, please click here.

Comments: Expand   Shrink   Hide  
2 people are discussing this page, with 2 comments
To view all comments:
Expand Comments
(Or you can set your preferences to show all comments, always)

When I consider Glenn's fascinating thesis, I wond... by Perry Logan on Wednesday, Nov 2, 2011 at 5:30:37 AM
some of the Democrats are part of the elite, all o... by Richard Girard on Wednesday, Nov 2, 2011 at 4:06:23 PM