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9/11 - Living in the Problem

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When you live in the problem, you only know the problem. When you live in the solution, you start to free yourself from the problem.

911Truthers have the problem being lied to by a government that committed murder most foul. And they know this problem intimately -  9/11 Google Search . But what they seem to avoid most earnestly is the solution, which results in their continued entrapment in the 9/11 problem and inability to free themselves.

I believe many Truthers would claim they know what "is" the solution. In fact, Mr. Gage recently challenged NIST to produce a portion of that solution. In his recent comments to the NIST Committee, Mr. Gage requests the following of its members:

"How much longer must we endure NIST's cover-up of how Building 7 was actually destroyed? Millions of Americans, including the 230+ architects and engineers and 600 others of AE911Truth.org, demand that NIST come clean with a full-throttle, fully resourced and transparent forensic investigation of the evidence of the controlled demolition of Building 7," -
http://www.ae911truth.org/info/24 .

If Mr. Gage is being honest to himself and the Movement, then he must surely realize that this is not a solution but a mandate. By his wording alone, Mr. Gage has abandoned any notion of appealing to the scientific method in arriving at a solution. Instead, he's formed the solution and requires that the NIST Committee warp the available evidence and data to match his solution.

Ironically, these are the same acts Mr. Gage accuses the members of doing with respect to the "Official Conspiracy Theory". Mr. Gage postulates in regard to the alleged presence of molten steel at the bottom of the WTC debris piles, "NIST left all of this crucial forensic evidence out of its report. Why? Because it didn't fit in with the official conspiracy theory." To further admonish but "instruct" (a/k/a mandate) the NIST Committee, he chides, "Because NIST seems to have forgotten or neglected to apply key features of the scientific method, I am including as an attachment to this submission Steven E. Jones, 'Revisiting 9/11/2001 -- Applying the Scientific Method'..."



Truly, Mr. Gage is a magnanimous architect. And this is an honest appraisal of him on my part. I have no doubt of the sincerity of Mr. Gage's convictions. And yet, "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies," - Friedrich Nietzsche .

Here's how it appears, though, that Truthers avoid the solution and are far more comfortable living in the problem. By applying the mandate that the WTC 7 collapse was due solely to a controlled demolition, Mr. Gage establishes a wholly unrealistic expectation that NIST (in all likelihood) will not be able to meet. Therefore, regardless of whatever the NIST Committee publishes on WTC 7, it's almost certain that it will be unacceptable to the Truthers and only serve as further "proof" that the problem of being lied to continues to exist unabated.

The true solution that would permit the Truthers to free themselves of the problem is to ensure that NIST does follow the scientific method and that its conclusions incorporate the same approach. If competing theories remain between NIST and the Truthers, then an honest approach by both parties that adheres to the Law of Parsimony should be agreed upon for resolution. Prior to the approach, both parties must also agree to honor the outcome of the comparison. Once committed, the problem may be left behind and work on the solution commence.

Until this occurs and Truthers begin to focus more on probabilities rather than mandates, the Movement will remain in the problem that seems, now-a-days anyway, to only result in divisions and in-fighting - click here .

Note:  For the record, I believe the NIST NCSTAR 1 on WTC 1 and 2 was well-thought and organized.  With this in mind, I may be construted as someone who supports the "Official Conspiracy Theory".

 

Wow! Has it been that long since last posting at OEN - more than two years? Apparently so! I've been busy elsewhere (e.g., Disqus: http://disqus.com/C4H4AsH/ ), but certainly not as prolific as I was previously at OEN. Well, I think I'll (more...)
 
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 Tom, I admire your approach to this issue. I... by Rick Mason on Saturday, Jan 19, 2008 at 9:00:43 AM
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