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Part 2 Lawrence Wilkerson Transcript; Military Power-- More Dangerous, Worse Than A Coup

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INTERVIEW with: Lawrence Wilkerson

Part 2 of two parts. 

Link to first part of interview here:

Lawrence Wilkerson Interview Transcript-- The "Israelization of the USA, CIA lies, and; "It's not a Coup. It's Worse!"

link to audio podcast 

Speaker 1/ Rob Kall, Interviewer

Speaker 2/ Lawrence Wilkerson , Interviewee

Thanks to  Don Caldarazzo for help editing the transcript.  

Rob Kall:    And welcome to the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show. [reciting Station ID] Sponsored by OpEdNews.com .

My guest tonight is retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson .   He was the former Chief of Staff to U.S. Secretary of State, Colin Powell. And he ' s now an adjunct Professor of Government at the College of William and Mary.

part 2 of interview begins here.

Rob Kall:    Now, as being engaged as you were in the Joint Chiefs of Staff when Colin Powell directed it and you were his assistant, do the Joint Chiefs of Staff have a control over the military?   Does anybody?  

Lawrence Wilkerson:

That's an excellent question.   I think the safest ingredient in our Republic with regard to the civil - military relationship, is the Officer Corps of the military.   There are some exceptions to what I'm going to say, but by and large those exceptions prove the rule.   

And what I'm going to say, is that the Officer Corps of the United States Military understands the Constitution.   They understand their oath to the Constitution. The Constitution is not the President , or their oath is not to the President , not to the Commander in Chief .   Their oath is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies , foreign and domestic.   I think that Officer Corps would shudder at the kind of thing that we might be thinking about.  Caesar crossing the Rubicon, and not leaving his Legions behind.   It's just not going to happen in this country, in my view.  But the insidious increase in power, and the influence over foreign policy that the military has, is very dangerous.   And maybe in the long run it's even more dangerous than a coup.   Because what happens is, the power shifts gradually, and gradually, and incrementally, over to the war making side , to where you wake up one morning and all you're doing is making war.   And you have so many people , from Lockheed Martin to the Congress of the United States , to the Armed   Forces, to you name it, who are making so much money off that war making , that you can't stop it.  That's not a coup, but it is something worse in my view.  It is ultimately the destruction of our Republic.  

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Rob Kall is executive editor, publisher and website architect of OpEdNews.com, Host of the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show (WNJC 1360 AM), and publisher of Storycon.org, President of Futurehealth, Inc, and an inventor . He is also published regularly on the Huffingtonpost.com

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