Close to the 30th anniversary of the start of the Russian occupation of Afghanistan of December 24th, 1979, the President will start the American occupation and nation building in Afghanistan and repeat the Soviet mistake

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When he does this, he will lose the support of his base that put him into office and it will probably derail what is left of his 'reform' agenda. He will lose the support of many Democrats and he will NOT buy any allegiance from the right wing. They will still hate him and work to pull him down. Only this time he can't count on any support from the left either. He will be wasting our country's money and lives and will loseallpolitical support necessary for him to get anything done. This is all his own deliberately considered fault because he's lied to the people who put him in office and done exactly the opposite of what he promised during the election. He'll be a one term president and he'll put the Republicans back in office. I guess he's not that smart after all.

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1."Finish the job"? What job is he talking about? The job of assuring economic ruin at home while developing an ever-increasing supply of terrorists abroad? The job of propping up one of the most corrupt regimes in the world? The job of appeasing the military-industrial complex, sponsoring and committing torture, and destroying our Bill of Rights? Or all of them?

Recommend Recommended by 387 Readers 2.Miles HDeKalb, ILNovember 24th, 20092:04 pmI am glad we have a president who doesn't rush into decisions involving our nation's troops, without gathering legitimate intelligence, and multi-lateral involvement. Whatever decision gets made, Pres. Obama made sure he heard from everyone, spoke to the right people, and got the facts. Now we just wait to find out what that decision will be...

Recommend Recommended by 56 Readers 3.avrdsMontanaNovember 24th, 20092:04 pmFinish the job. I wonder what that means?

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And he may very well "Finish the Job" ---- for Empire.

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Obama's speech and his 'supposed' decision about Afghanistan will reveal far more than the war strategy in Afghanistan. For those who watch with careful eyes it will reveal EMPIRE oligarchy. The decision will be voiced through the mouth of Obama to be sure --- but the decision was already made before he was president, in fact before he even ran, and the decision itself was made by the EMPIRE oligarchy.

America, our country, is now part of an arrogant, unresponsive, un-democratic, but quite sophisticated 'Vichy' type Empire that is merely the cover for a nazi, vicious, ruling oligarchy ---- which only pretends to allow the people to have any influence over any choices, directly, or through their supposed representative government.

This fact of sophisticated and guileful Empire manipulation and trickery of the people was well documented in 1994 by Thomas Frank in his "What's the Matter with Kansas" --- showing how contrived social 'values' manipulation was used by the Empire-controlled 'Republican Party' to trick stereotypical anti-intellectual conservative Kansans into voting against their own interests.But now the coin has been flipped, and we need Frank to write a new book, "What's the Matter with Massachusetts" in which he would lay bare how the Empire-controlled 'Democratic Party' tricked stereotypical self-described liberal "wicked smart" Bostonians and supposedly highly educated intellectuals into voting for a second well educated (and now post-racial) president promising different 'values', but singing the same songs about "Don't stop thinking about tomorrow" and waving banners of 'hope' and 'change' --- which have now been ignored with the same level of contempt and impunity as the last several Empire-controlled Republican and Democratic shills --- who did exactly NOTHING they promised!.

When such obvious contradictions to a government structure of supposed democracy occur many times in a row, but with both supposedly different political parties, and with differing levels of sophistication employed to fool dull and bright voters, the issue is not 'values' but one of deep 'government structure'. And the only conclusion to be made is that we are dealing with a deep and deadly problem of ‘government structure', which Ben Franklin would have immediately recognized as his fear of Empire supplanting a democratic Republic."The problem is not with our public, dear citizens, nor with this Obama, or that Bush nor even previous Clinton Bush or Reagan, but with EMPIRE oligarchy which will have its way despite whatever the public thinks or doesn't think. They'll use the press and the President and any means to get their manipulations done and they don't give a rat's rip what you or I think.

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His stupidity will bring both Afghanistan and the U.S. to its knees?

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This is an occupation that neither country wants nor can afford and will probably prove to be the final blow to the U.S. empire.

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Ironic indeed that President Obama will now be ultimately responsible for the ongoing war overseas, not the Bush-Cheney presidency.

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When will this country ever learn? Mr. Obama, like a good right winger, says "the battle to the enemy if you don't, they will surely bring it here." Hisr Liberal base will hate him for this. .

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So thie Obama presidency will "define" itself by yet ANOTHER SPEECH

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"Finish the job," indeed. The content of the word "job" in this context has not been defined clearly. The war in Afghanistan has changed. The job needs redefining in clear and current terms. It seem s to me sometimes that we are being asked to buy what used to be a pig in a poke, but that has, since the offering was initiated, grown into a hog in a poke!

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The President has decided to accept the plan of the general to occupy areas of Afghanistan and use nation building to build the will of the Afghans to fight and defeat the Taliban.Supposedly, areas of Afghanistan will be controlled totally by American forces with the population protected from both the Taliban and the corrupt government.

If the United States accepts the plan to occupy areas of Afghanistan and nation building to wait for the Afghans to be willing to fight and defeat the Taliban, the exit strategy or endgame will bankrupt America and result in Iraq War II. Our troops leave Afghanistan when the Afghans have defeated the Taliban, which will be never, so therefore, our troops will eventually HAVE TO leave when with mounting losses of Americans the United States stupid oligarchy that wants this war, decides it will no longer wait for Afghans to be willing to defeat the Taliban. Obama's exit strategy is George W. Bush's same plan of military occupation and nation building.

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This will ignite a holy crusade to force the foreign invaders out of Afghanistan.His generals have forgotten that the Soviets couldn't prevail with 500,000 troops, So his original request may eventually turn into 80,000 additional troops to Afghanistan , but with even that number of Americans, the dead will continue increasing, more American troops will be sent to Afghanistan and the US will be a finished, bankrupt, has-been empire that is now a stupid banana republic..

Close to the 30th anniversary of the start of the Russian occupation of Afghanistan of December 24th, 1979, the President will start the American occupation and nation building in Afghanistan and repeat the Soviet mistake.

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"Finishing the job": is that anything like "Winning? Anybody feel like asking the man himself what he means by 'winning'? Past presidents have struggled to obtain victory in wars. The current titleholder appears to think he is trying to best manage defeat. While our military is engaged in the bankrupting of America, our president, it seems, is nothing but a ditherer.

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Didn't Nixon promise to finish the job in Vietnam in 1968?

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The job can't be "finished", the enemy can't be "dismantled" or stopped from "operating" and certainly cannot be defeated. Basically the U.S., and its symbolic ragtag group of allies, will be a permanent presence, with no end in sight.

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What a refreshing difference between Obama who seems to be able to keep his eye on the ball and know which country to occupy (laugh) and our previous, dyslexic President who had little grasp of such 'details'---NOT!!!

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.Sounds like George Bush to me.

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"Finish the Job"Where have we heard this before?

Recommend Recommended by 97 Readers 17.dave lyonscaliforniaNovember 24th, 20092:18 pm" President Obama said on Tuesday that he will announce his decision on how many more troops to send to Afghanistan next week, and that it is his intention to "finish the job" that began with the overthrow of the Taliban government in the fall of 2001." It has been going on a lot longer than this--since the 1970's. If it has been "finished" by now, there is no chance it will be finished in our lifetime, and at the cost of 1 million per man year, it is simply outrageous to extend this war one more day

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Didn't President Obama say Afghanistan was the war of "necessity"? Didn't Obama criticize Bush for not focusing on Afghanistan, and wasting troops and lives and money in Iraq? Now it is Obama who is not focusing on reality. Personally, I hope Obama wakes up and brings all our troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq.

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How about we wait and see what he has to say before commenting on something we don't know anything about?

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To quote Vonnegut, "So it goes."I really would like to see us to get out of there.

Recommend Recommended by 68 Readers 22.margaretnhNovember 24th, 20092:18 pmWonderful, just wonderful. So Obama has to prove he isn't an arugula eating sissy by out-Bushing Bush. The goof-ball doesn't understand that many, like me, voted for him, "specifically", becuase he promised to bring the troops home.

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Why do I even bother to vote?

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After all the shambolic consultation, Obama ends up doing what he knew he was going to do all along and simply follows the orders from the military establishment and escalates further our waging war.And you thought that Obama was the commander in chief.

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Anotherbotched foreign policy. "Perpetual war for perpetual peace" is not cutting it.

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