The Lawyer vs. the Liar
By Mike Hersh
People judging the Vice Presidential Debate on demeanor and
talking points miss the point. While if taken in isolation, VP
Dick Cheney held his own but only by flatly denying Sen. John
Edwards' charges - denying known facts and reality - while lashing
out with lies about Edwards and his running mate John Kerry with
increasingly testy whoppers.
Early in the debate, Edwards set the tone: "Mr. Vice
President, you are still not being straight with the American
people. I mean, the reality you and George Bush continue to tell
people, first, that things are going well in Iraq -- the American
people don't need us to explain this to them, they see it on their
television every single day. We lost more troops in September than
we lost in August; lost more in August than we lost in July; lost
more in July than we lost in June." Nothing Cheney said or
did bridged this huge and growing credibility gap.
The Lawyer threw down the challenge, and Dick Cheney - the Liar
- lost no time proving that Sen. Edwards was correct: The gap
between Cheney/Bush rhetoric and reality is enormous, growing, and
getting more dangerous every day. Cheney's misstatements and lies
about subjects large and small accumulated at a rapid pace belied
by Cheney's languid, almost lifeless speaking style. Cheney
recklessly lied when he claimed he'd never met Edwards before that
evening. That's not a big deal, except that it demonstrates the
arrogance and/or delusional mind-set afflicting Cheney.
Actually, confirmation of Cheney's dishonest proclivities came
even before Edwards had a chance to speak. Moderator Gwen Ifill's
first question mentioned an intelligence report that Cheney
ordered showing no link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda, that
"Paul Bremer, the former head of the Coalition Provisional
Authority, gave a speech in which he said that we have never had
enough troops on the ground," and Donald Rumsfeld said he has
not seen any hard evidence of a link between al Qaeda and Saddam
Hussein."
She asked Cheney about "new developments in Iraq,
especially having to do with the administration's handling"
and "Was this approved - of a report that you requested that
you received a week ago that showed there was no connection
between Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Saddam Hussein?"
In reply Cheney evaded and lied. Cheney somehow managed to lie
twice on this one specific point. He lied denying that former and
current Bush/Cheney officials contradict unrealistically
optimistic - if not delusional - Administration propaganda. He
also lied when he denied he'd ever linked Iraq to the al Qaeda
terror attacks. But first Cheney hemmed and hawed:
"It's important to look at all of our developments in Iraq
within the broader context of the global war on terror. And, after
9/11, it became clear that we had to do several things to have a
successful strategy to win the global war on terror, specifically
that we had to go after the terrorists where ever we might find
them, that we also had to go after state sponsors of terror, those
who might provide sanctuary or safe harbor for terror."
Edwards seized on this in answer to the third question,
pointing out that Cheney lobbied to release state sponsors of
terror from sanctions, and as CEO of Halliburton Cheney actually
helped terrorist states including Iran, Libya and Iraq - all in
violation of US policy and/or law. As Edwards put it: "The
vice president just said that we should focus on state sponsors of
terrorism. Iran has moved forward with its nuclear weapons
program. They're more dangerous today than they were four years
ago."
As Edwards explained, "This vice president has been an
advocate for over a decade for lifting sanctions against Iran, the
largest state sponsor of terrorism on the planet. It's a mistake.
We should not only not lift them, we should strengthen those
sanctions." Then Edwards proved that Bush/Cheney national
security policy makes Americans less safe because "North
Korea has moved forward with their nuclear weapons program, gone
from one to two nuclear weapons to six to eight nuclear
weapons."
Edwards effectively showed Bush and Cheney utterly failed with
regard to what Cheney said is "The biggest threat we faced
today" by making it more likely that terrorists could attack
us by "smuggling a nuclear weapon or a biological agent into
one of our own cities and threatening the lives of hundreds of
thousands of Americans."
Cheney insisted, "What we did in Iraq was exactly the
right thing to do.
If I had it to recommend all over again, I would recommend
exactly the same course of action." Cheney further emphasized
he learned nothing from his failed policies. Even knowing the
catastrophe he caused, he would not have deployed enough troops to
prevent hundreds of US deaths and 1000s of casualties. He would
not have changed anything at all because he claims all of the
Bush/Cheney Iraq policies were perfect: "we did exactly the
right thing."
Edwards schooled Cheney in military and foreign policy reality:
"[I]t's not just me that sees the mess in Iraq. There are
Republican leaders, like John McCain, like Richard Lugar, like
Chuck Hagel, who have said Iraq is a mess and it's getting worse.
And when they were asked why, Richard Lugar said because of the
incompetence of the administration.
What Paul Bremer said yesterday is they didn't have enough
troops to secure the country. They also didn't have a plan to win
the peace. They also didn't put the alliances together to make
this successful."
The Senator did what Cheney would not or could not do. He
looked the American People in the eye, and told us the truth:
"We need a fresh start. We need a president who will speed up
the training of the Iraqis, get more staff in for doing that. We
need to speed up the reconstruction so the Iraqis see some
tangible benefit. We need a new president who has the credibility,
which John Kerry has, to bring others into this effort." As
expected, although still disappointing to anyone who wants to see
our troops home safely, Cheney stayed steeped in deep denial
claiming, "We've made significant progress in Iraq."
In apparent confusion, Cheney flip-flopped from one sentence to
the next, first claiming "We've stood up a new government
that's been in power now only 90 days" but almost immediately
contradicting himself by admitting, "but the point of success
in Iraq will be reached when we have turned governance over to the
Iraqi people." Which is it? Cheney also grossly exaggerated
at best when he bragged; "We also are actively, rapidly
training Iraqis to take on the security responsibility. Those two
steps are ... well in hand, well under way." No impartial
observer agrees with that glowing assessment, and as Edwards
showed even some top Republicans concede this is simply not the
case.
Edwards also zeroed in on one of Cheney's biggest and most
persistent
lies: "Mr. Vice President, there is no connection between
the attacks of September 11th and Saddam Hussein. The 9/11
Commission has said it. Your own secretary of state has said it.
And you've gone around the country suggesting that there is some
connection. There is not. And in fact the CIA is now about to
report that the connection between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein is
tenuous at best. And, in fact, the secretary of defense said
yesterday that he knows of no hard evidence of the connection. We
need to be straight with the American people."
Edwards is correct. After all these lies the American People
and our allies and enemies alike cannot take Cheney or Bush at
their word. The Senator remained polite, even though he could have
added George W. Bush to the long list of Administration Officials
who reluctantly concede Saddam Hussein did not attack us on
9/11/01. Polls show that 2 out of 3 Republicans just don't
understand this fact. Either Dick Cheney is among the confused or
else he is trying to deceive voters on this critically important
point.
Moderator Ifill tried to balance the debate, echoing
Bush/Cheney talking
points: "You and Senator Kerry have said that the war in
Iraq is the wrong war at the wrong time. Does that mean that if
you had been president and vice president that Saddam Hussein
would still be in power?" This question contains a false
premise known as the excluded middle. It assumes that the only way
to remove or disarm Saddam necessarily involved lying to the
American People and the world, alienating our allies, squandering
hundreds of $billions while getting 1000s of American Troops
killed or injured by madly rushing into war without adequate plans
or preparation. Edwards was clearly ready for this question:
"Here's what it means: It means that Saddam Hussein needed
to be confronted. John Kerry and I have consistently said that.
That's why we voted for the resolution. But it also means it
needed to be done the right way. And doing it the right way meant
that we were prepared; that we gave the weapons inspectors time to
find out what we now know, that in fact there were no weapons of
mass destruction; that we didn't take our eye off the ball, which
are al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, the people who attacked us on
September the 11th." This exposed the fundamental Bush/Cheney
failure to eliminate or even contain the most deadly threat facing
America. Bush has reluctantly moved on to admit that al Qaeda
attacked us. Saddam did not. Astonishingly, Cheney continues to
lie about this!
Edwards hammered away at this flaw, this fissure between
reality and Cheney's lies: "Now, remember, we went into
Afghanistan, which, by the way, was the right thing to do. That
was the right decision. And our military performed terrifically
there. But we had Osama bin Laden cornered at Tora Bora. We had
the 10th Mountain Division up in Uzbekistan available. We had the
finest military in the world on the ground. And what did we do? We
turned -- this is the man who masterminded the greatest mass
murder and terrorist attack in American history. And what did the
administration decide to do? They gave the responsibility of
capturing and/or killing Saddam -- I mean Osama bin Laden to
Afghan warlords who, just a few weeks before, had been working
with Osama bin Laden." This was Edwards' worst flub, but the
message still came through: at the moment of truth, Bush/Cheney
trusted the wrong people and failed. And Cheney still lies about
it.
To make this even more clear, Edwards relentlessly cast Cheney
and Bush as failures: "Our point in this is not complicated:
We were attacked by al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. We went into
Afghanistan and very quickly the administration made a decision to
divert attention from that and instead began to plan for the
invasion of Iraq. And these connections -- I want the American
people to hear this very clearly. Listen carefully to what the
vice president is saying. Because there is no connection between
Saddam Hussein and the attacks of September 11th -- period. The
9/11 Commission has said that's true. Colin Powell has said
it's true.
But the vice president keeps suggesting that there is. There is
not.
And, in fact, any connection with al Qaeda is tenuous at
best."
Ifill gave Cheney 90 seconds to respond, and true to his nature
he lied by implying his opponent was wrong: "The senator has
got his facts wrong. I have not suggested there's a connection
between Iraq and 9/11, but there's clearly an established Iraqi
track record with terror."
Immediately after the debate, some news shows ran tape of
Cheney on Meet the Press saying there was such a connection - one
of several times he made that utterly discredited claim. Why would
Cheney blatantly lie to the American People this way?
Why would he do so, knowing that Edwards opened by putting
doubts about Cheney's credibility front and center in this debate?
This indicates that either Cheney is so "sure of
himself" he doesn't think he has to tell the truth, or he
cannot tell the difference between lies and facts.
Once well-down the path of lying, Cheney - like many liars -
could not find any way out. So he plunged ahead embroidering and
elaborating on his lies:
"And the point is that that's the place where you're most
likely to see the terrorists come together with weapons of mass
destruction, the deadly technologies that Saddam Hussein had
developed and used over the years." This although Bush/Cheney
weapons expert David Kay admitted Cheney's view is unfounded.
Under oath, Kay testified: "Let me begin by saying, we
were almost all wrong [about Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction],
and I certainly include myself here [and] It turns out that we
were all wrong, probably in my judgment, and that is most
disturbing." Kay denied disturbing, widely reported accounts
that Dick Cheney took an active role coercing and forcing
officials to tailor their "intelligence" to support
Cheney's view that Iraq was an imminent threat, but incredibly
blamed "the [Bush/Cheney] failure on April 9 to establish
immediately physical security in Iraq - the unparalleled looting
and destruction" for hiding evidence of Iraq's WMD program.
Kay said, "It had been the regime's. The regime is gone. I'm
going to go take the gold toilet fixtures and everything else
imaginable." See Transcript: David Kay at Senate hearing,
January 28, 2004:
No one is perfect, and people do make mistakes in good faith.
David Kay can admit he was wrong and the Administration he still
loyally supports failed. Why can't Cheney admit these evident
facts? Instead, after empowering terrorist states Libya and Iran,
and doing business with Saddam Hussein, Cheney attacked his rivals
dishonestly:
"Now, the fact of the matter is, the big difference here,
Gwen, is they are not prepared to deal with states that sponsor
terror. They've got a very limited view about how to use U.S.
military forces to defend America.... It's a consistent pattern
over time of always being on the wrong side of defense issues. A
little tough talk in the midst of a campaign or as part of a
presidential debate cannot obscure a record of 30 years of being
on the wrong side of defense issues." Later Cheney reprised
his hypocrisy, "Your rhetoric, Senator, would be a lot more
credible if there was a record to back it up. There isn't. And you
cannot use 'talk tough' during the course of a 90-minute debate in
a presidential campaign to obscure a 30-year record in the United
States Senate and, prior to that by John Kerry, who has
consistently come down on the wrong side of all the major defense
issues that he's faced as a public official."
Once more, Sen. Edwards caught Cheney misleading Americans.
"I want to go back to what the vice president just said,
because it's a continuation of the things he's been doing,
unfortunately, on the campaign trail; it's a continuation of what
he began his first answer with tonight. John Kerry has voted for
the biggest military appropriations bill in the country's history.
John Kerry has voted for the biggest intelligence appropriations
in the country's history. This vice president, when he was
secretary of defense, cut over 80 weapons systems, including the
very ones he's criticizing John Kerry for voting against. These
are weapons systems, a big chunk of which, the vice president
himself suggested we get rid of after the Cold War."
Edwards pounded away at Cheney's delusions and explained the
facts behind Bush / Cheney sound bites: "The reality is that
John Kerry has consistently supported the very men that he served
with in Vietnam and led. On the $87 billion, it was clear at the
time of that vote that they had no plan to win the peace. We're
seeing the consequences of that every day on the ground right now.
We stood up and said: For our troops, we must have a plan to win
the peace. We also thought it was wrong to have a $20 billion fund
out of which $7.5 billion was going to go to a no-bid contract for
Halliburton, the vice president's former company. It was wrong
then. It's wrong now."
In denial of his record, Cheney projected his own failures onto
John Kerry by saying, "specifically that I don't believe he
has the qualities we need in a commander in chief because I don't
think, based on his record, that he would pursue the kind of
aggressive policies that need to be pursued if we're going to
defeat these terrorists. We need to battle them overseas so we
don't have to battle them here at home. [H]is judgment's flawed,
and the record's there for anybody who wants to look at it. In
1984, when he ran for the Senate he opposed, or called for the
elimination of a great many major weapons systems that were
crucial to winning the Cold War and are important today to our
overall forces....
The problem we have is that, if you look at his record, he
doesn't display the qualities of somebody who has
conviction."
As Edwards explained, "John Kerry has been absolutely
clear and consistent from the beginning that we must stay focused
on the people who attacked us; that Saddam Hussein was a threat
that needed to be addressed directly; that the weapons inspectors
needed to have time to do their job. Had they had time to do their
job, they would have discovered what we now know, that in fact
Saddam Hussein had no weapons, that in fact Saddam Hussein has no
connection with 9/11, that in fact Saddam Hussein has little or no
connection with al Qaeda."
He added, "What we know is that the president and the vice
president have not done the work to build the coalition that we
need -- dramatically different than the first Gulf War. We know
that they haven't done it, and we know they can't do it. They
didn't, by the way, just reject the allies going into lead- up to
the war. They also rejected them in the effort to do the
reconstruction in Iraq, and that has consequences. What we believe
is, as part of our entire plan for Iraq -- and we have a plan for
Iraq. They have a plan for Iraq too: more of the same. We have a
plan for success. And that plan includes speeding up the training
of the military. We have less than half of the staff that we need
there to complete that training."
Given 30 seconds to respond, the best Cheney could offer was,
"Well, Gwen, I think the record speaks for itself."
Unfortunately for Cheney, it does. The record shows as Secretary
of Defense Dick Cheney demanded Congress slash weapons programs.
Now, he tries to blame Sen. Kerry for trusting Cheney's sworn
statements to the Senate under oath. This confirms that Cheney
either lied under oath when he said America didn't need several
weapons programs - and thereby undermined our national security -
or else Cheney is one of the most audacious hypocrites in American
history. Either way, Cheney shows astonishing dishonesty and /or
delusion rendering him unfit to make national security policy - or
any policy.
Cheney also showed that said about Kerry and Edwards is true of
Cheney and Bush, but not applicable to their opponents: "And
they give absolutely no indication, based on that record, of being
wiling to go forward and aggressively pursue the war on terror
with a kind of strategy that will work, that will defeat our
enemies and will guarantee that the United States doesn't again
get attacked by the likes of al Qaeda." After all, Bush and
Cheney "out-sourced" the hunt for bin Laden and other
terrorists to unreliable enemy warlords in Afghanistan. Bush
promised to bring back bin Laden "dead or alive" over
three years ago and failed.
Confronted with this evidence of utter failure - of will as
well as ability, Cheney did what liars do. He lied and tried to
blame other people. "Gwen, we've never let up on Osama bin
Laden from day one. We've actively and aggressively pursued him.
We've captured or killed thousands of al Qaeda in various places
around the world and especially in Afghanistan. We'll continue to
very aggressively pursue him, and I'm confident eventually we'll
get him. The key to success in Afghanistan has been, again, to go
in and go after the terrorists, which we've done, and also take
down the Taliban regime which allowed them to function there, in
effect sponsors, if you will, of the al Qaeda organization."
Most Americans know that almost all of this bragging is
exaggerated if not completely made up. Not satisfied with just
lying, Cheney also tried to blame Edwards for his own
Administration's failure: "John Edwards, two and a half years
ago, six months after we went into Afghanistan announced that it
was chaotic, the situation was deteriorating, the warlords were
about to take over [b]ut they're making significant progress. We
have President Karzai, who is in power." In fact, Edwards was
correct. The situation is still chaotic in Afghanistan. Interim
President Karzai is barely more than mayor of Kabul. The Taliban
and the warlords are reasserting their vicious power.
Cheney offered excuses and empty promises as if they were
facts: "The fact is, as we go forward in Afghanistan, we will
pursue Osama bin Laden and the terrorists as long as necessary.
We're standing up Afghan security forces so they can take on
responsibility for their own security." Why the long delay
between bin Laden's mass murder of 3000 Americans and sustained
efforts to bring him to justice? Why would Cheney advocate a
reckless rush to attack Iraq while al Qaeda plots to kill more
Americans?
All this exposed Cheney's preposterous claims as lies,
"We've made enormous progress in Afghanistan, in exactly the
right direction, in spite of what John Edwards said two and a half
years ago. He just got it wrong." No, Edwards got it correct.
Cheney lied again. As the Senator explained, "Someone did get
it wrong. But it wasn't John Kerry and John Edwards. They got it
wrong. When we had Osama bin Laden cornered, they left the job to
the Afghan warlords. They then diverted their attention from the
very people who attacked us, who were at the center of the war on
terror, and so Osama bin Laden is still at large." Cheney
cannot deny any of that, so he attacked Kerry with made up lies
and intentionally misconstrued comments.
Edwards corrected the record: "I want to go back to
something the vice president said just a minute ago, because these
distortions are continuing. He said that -- made mention of this
global test. What John Kerry said -- and it's just as clear as day
to anybody who was listening
-- he said: We will find terrorists where they are and kill
them before they ever do harm to the American people, first. We
will keep this country safe. He defended this country as a young
man, he will defend this country as president of the United
States. He also said very clearly that he will never give any
country veto power over the security of the United States of
America. Now, I know the vice president would like to pretend that
wasn't said, and the president would too. But the reality is it
was said."
In case anyone still accepted Cheney's delusional assessments,
Edwards explained, "Here's what's actually happened in
Afghanistan, regardless of this rosy scenario that they paint on
Afghanistan, just like they do with Iraq. What's actually happened
is they're now providing 75 percent of the world's opium. Not only
are they providing 75 percent of the world's opium, large-cut
parts of the country are under the control of drug lords and
warlords. Big parts of the country are still insecure.
And the reality is the part of Afghanistan, eastern
Afghanistan, where Osama bin Laden is, is one of the hardest
places to control and the most insecure, Gwen."
Cheney, unable to rebut these facts confirming his failure,
suffered a
flashback: "Twenty years ago we had a similar situation in
El Salvador"
and flatly stated that proved the failed policies he advocates
"will apply in Afghanistan, and it will apply as well in
Iraq." If Cheney weren't such a pathological liar, if he
weren't so dishonest and delusional, we might be able to rely on
his honesty and credibility.
Cheney squandered that respect by lying to the American People
over and over and over about matters great and small.
By contrast, Sen. Edwards and Sen. Kerry will tell the truth
and do what's best to keep America safe. Edwards quoted Kerry,
"We will never give anyone a veto over the security of the
United States of America"
and pledged a return to "the proud tradition of the United
States of America and presidents of the United States of America
for the last 50 to 75 years. First, we're going to actually tell
the American people the truth. We're going to tell them the truth
about what's happening. We're not going to suggest to them that
things are going well in Iraq or anyplace else when, in fact,
they're not. We're going to make sure that the American people
know the truth about why we are using force and what the
explanation for it is. And it's not just the American people.
We're also going to make sure that we tell the world the truth.
Because the reality is, for America to lead, for America to do
what it's done for 50 years before this president and vice
president came into office, it is critical that we be
credible."
Bush and Cheney fail because they don't understand what Edwards
and Kerry know: "It is critical that they believe that when
America takes action, they can trust what we're doing, what we
say, what we say at the United Nations, what we say in direct
conversations with leaders of the world -- of other countries.
They need to know that the credibility of the United States is
always good, because they will not follow us without that. And
unfortunately, we're seeing the consequences of that right now.
It's one of the reasons that we're having so much difficulty
getting others involved in the effort in Iraq."
Cheney and Bush don't even seem to understand that you cannot
lead by misleading, that America - or any nation - cannot prosper
by building and hiding behind walls of lies and delusion. As
Edwards explained - and Cheney lied by denying - American has
"taken 90 percent of the coalition causalities. American
taxpayers have borne 90 percent of the costs of the effort in
Iraq. And we see the result of there not being a
coalition: The first Gulf war cost America $5 billion. We're at
$200 billion and counting. John Kerry will never give up control
over the security of the United States of America to any other
country. We will not outsource our responsibility to keep this
country safe."
Cheney lied again claiming, "Well, Gwen, the 90 percent
figure is just dead wrong. When you include the Iraqi security
forces that have suffered casualties, as well as the allies,
they've taken almost 50 percent of the casualties in operations in
Iraq, which leaves the U.S.
with 50 percent, not 90 percent. With respect to the cost, it
wasn't $200 billion. You probably weren't there to vote for that.
But $120 billion is, in fact, what has been allocated to Iraq. The
rest of it's for Afghanistan and the global war on terror."
But Cheney knows or should know his Administration keeps moving
funds and forces ear-marked for Afghanistan into Iraq, and
demanded more than $75 billion for Iraq on top of that.
Cheney's lies, delusions and deceptions go on and on, but the
point is clear. Bush and Cheney failed to keep us safe. Cheney -
who complained that Edwards missed a few votes - was entrusted to
lead the Anti-Terrorism Task Force, but never bothered to convene
a single meeting. Even after 9/11, Bush and Cheney lost sight of
the real enemy - Osama and al Qaeda - in their mad rush to attack
Iraq. Still, Cheney hypocritically accused John Kerry of lacking
"the conviction to successfully carry through on the war on
terror." Bush and Cheney already proved they can't do the
job, they lack the skills, the will, and the conviction to protect
America from ruthless killers most people call terrorists, but
which Cheney calls his business partners.
Edwards responded, closing this case: "What the vice
president has just said is just a complete distortion. The
American people saw John Kerry on Thursday night. They don't need
the vice president or the president to tell them what they saw.
They saw a man who was strong, who had conviction, who is
resolute, who made it very clear that he will do everything that
has to be done to find terrorists, to keep the American people
safe. He laid out his plan for success in Iraq, made it clear that
we were committed to success in Iraq. We have to be, because we
have troops on the ground there and because they have created a
haven for terrorists." Cheney had no answer to this, just as
Bush and Cheney have no answers for Americans on the economy,
jobs, health care, education and more. Most importantly, Cheney
could not defend his failure to defend America, so he tried to lie
about Kerry and Edwards.
America can and must do better than this.
For above quotes, see Vice Presidential Debate transcript: