Means of transcending evil...

While Bill was a bit 'vague' on exactly how mankind will transcend the current limitations of our species, he is right in thinking the means to do so are on the web. Certainly the time is ripe as history is fast approaching that place between the proverbial rock and a hard spot. But such a solution is bound to threaten a substantial part of those upholding the established order. For insight on the issue, check the links below. A most unusual revolution is already getting under way? For anyone seeking radical change to the existing status quo, this is the only game in town that can deliver on its promise..

http://www.energon.org

http://thefinalfreedoms.blogspot.com  

by R. A. Landbeck (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 23 comments) on Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 12:18:58 PM
 

ripeness is all

I will check out that site.  And here's another one which I think is very, very promising:  http://www.worldproutassembly.org/

About the vagueness, I understand what you mean, but my intuition (act of faith?) is that the "rise in consciousness" will manifest new specifics and strategies.  AT LEAST we now know that establishment politics is meaningless.  It's the will of the elites, not the will of the people, hence "will of the people" activisms and break throughs are where we are and what we need.

It's been said the "subjective revolution" must precede the "objective revolution" (preferably non violent) and I think the net is steadily catalyzing a subjective revolution.  Maybe this won't come to a head for another 4 to 8 years, but the human cattle  (99.5% of the Earth's population) are more restless and enraged than the elites dream.  Ripeness is all

Our present social game rules (religious, governmental, political, etc.) are the straight jacket which forces us to live like human cattle, while the vampire elites live like Greek Gods.  But once the human race realizes that these straight jacket rule are merely paper bullets, it will be game over for the elites and ANY form of a Have & Have Not society.  Planetary democracy is inevitable.  The alternative is species extinction and we are now at the cusp.

by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (218 articles, 44 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 482 comments) on Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 12:55:13 PM
 

Age 14

Most crook media is aimed at the eternal 14 year old within.  For most Americans (and others), emotional and intellectual development stays at this age level.  When I see a Cheney or a Bush, I see a 14 year old bully with a cap pistol.  When I see a moralizing liberal I see a tattle tail who can't do anything on his own.

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1094 comments) on Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 12:22:32 PM
 

Intelligence and the internet wont redeem the evil people

I commend Christopher Epler (Bill) on recognizing that it is not George Bush and the Neocons that are the fundamental problem. Bush was elected by a majority (well almost). Half the people in the US are responsible for his evil, which means these millions of people are evil (Europe has moved to a higher plane; a Bush could never be elected there).

Who are these evil people, many of whom have loving families and give generously to charity? I disagree with Bill that they are lacking intelligence. History has proven there is no correlation between intelligence and virtue. Education does seem to improve some people, especially at the highest levels where most professors are liberals. But there are plenty of very smart, very well educated people who are evil. 

Bill, I am afraid the internet is not going to save us because the evil 50% dont use the internet much and they certainly dont access the progressive websites Bill and others have named. We who read and participate in the internet blogs are very atypical. In every internet poll on Democrats, Kucinich won by a large margin, yet he could barely break 2% in the primaries and even the caucuses. On the Republican side, Ron Paul topped the polls by almost the same margin as Kucinich. Paul certainly is not my candidate, but I do greatly admire his passionate opposition to militarism, which explains most of his appeal. He did better than Kucinich in the primaries and caucuses but still never became a serious threat to the leading evil Republicans. We internet users who take advantage of the organizing and information capabilities of the internet comprise no more than, I estimate, 10% of the voting population.

The human species is progressing. We no longer have slavery. We dont cut off the hands of theives. We dont put poor people in debtor's prison. We do have a government that provides a minimal safety net for the aged. But these changes occur over centuries. Conversion of evil people by logical argument is almost impossible, which is very discouraging. If anyone has a solution other than the internet, I would like to read it here.  

by Deano (2 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 14 comments) on Monday, February 11, 2008 at 11:04:33 AM
 

Thank Bush

Frankly we should thank George Bush his supporters and team for being so amazingly incompetent that people are waking up the the silent theft of government by vested interests to the detriment of the greater good (if he was remotely competent we would all be slaves by now). 

In my country (Australia) John Howard destroyed his own winning strategy by going one step too far with industrial relations.  It took three years but eventally it came back to bite him.

Too many people are questioning the way the US is run for there not to be fundamental change, the question is merely how long and how much pain, first.

Chris is right the system must adequately work for everyone (even the rich although they shouldn't be allowed to hurt people for their own amusement) if its is to work at for all.

by kwalsh (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 183 comments) on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 at 12:03:40 AM