The ACLU is combing through Bush's most recent Executive Order and some of us are scratching our head and letting our imaginations run wild ...
As announced on Fox News ..
HUME: The Bush administration today announced a new tool in its effort to bring stability to Iraq. President Bush issued an Executive Order that will allow the administration to freeze bank accounts and other financial assets belonging to people or groups that undermine progress, such as reconstruction efforts and political reform in Iraq..
As we know, there are plenty of provisions covering money being sent via "terrrorist cells" dating WAY Back. And needless to say there are plenty of people (moi) who wonder at the scratchy legal pantsuits' put out by Bush, but certain of us are wondering . what does this MEAN? Are we to assume the worst . that we can now have all our ca$h seized by the US Treasury therefore breaking the 5th Amendment OR is this just another attempt to make us anxious and nervous ..?
... nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Quite rightly the flak is flying .. the comments section on tpmuckracker are riveting, and I invite the reader to visit them. Speculation is raised that this is a way at getting at Hilary Clinton, that it is a way to get to Dennis Kucinich, that this is a way to stop every single anti-Iraq protestor. Of course, the ever word twisting US Adminstration says it is "just filling in the financial cracks ..."
As reported by Sorcha Faal, a known unreliable news source, this is the death knell of liberty. One email I received says that this is creeping fascism. I just don't know, but my distrust is so high after seven years of Orwellian doubletalk; illegal, now legal wiretaps: White House Protocol on handling demonstrators; impeachment proceedings on tap . that I am certainly very CONcerned ...
How about YOU? Perhaps a call to the ACLU is in order, eh?
Virginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and a war crimes tribunal of the current DC administration - including CONgress.
Sound Familiar. The reason our forefathers declared independence in the first place.
Declaration of Independence[Adapted In The United States Of America July 4, 2007]The Unanimous Declaration of the Citizens United States of America From the George W Bush Administration, Corporate Control, Shadow Government, Right Wing Main Stream Media and The Military Industrial Complex When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these States; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present President of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.He has forbidden his Congressto pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operationWith Signing Statementstill his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to Obey them. He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.He has Divided representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected;With Voter Caging and Suppression of Votes, whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.He has endeavored to Increase the population of these states; for that purpose Ignoring the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and Lowering the conditions of Seeking Employment In The U.S.A, Therefore Driving Down The Wages Of The Working Class. He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.He Has Misled The American Citizens To Invade A Sovereign Nation To Gain Control Of Their Oil Resources At The Expense Of Taxpayer Funds And The Lives Of Our Young Men And Women In The Military.He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.He has combined with Corporations And The Free Press to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:For cutting off FAIR trade with all parts of the world:For imposing taxes on While Lowering Taxes On The Most Wealthy Among us without our consent:For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses:For abolishing the free system of Constitutional laws in a neighboring States, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these States:For taking away our Freedoms, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments:For Hamstringing our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war Against Foreign Nations.He has Ignored Our Citizens On OurRavaged Gulf Coasts, Torn Down Our Educational System, and destroyed the lives of our people.He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of the head of a civilized nation.He has constrained our Fellow Citizens And Citizens Of Other Nations taken captive In All Lands to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.He has excited domestic insurrections Of Foreign Nations, and has endeavored to bring on the Civil Discourse In Iraq And The Middle East Oil Producing Nations, whose known Rule Does Not Conform With Our Democratic System.In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A President, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the Leader of a free people.Nor have we been wanting in attention to our Republican brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our Disappointment With Them. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends.We, therefore, the Citizens of the United States of America, in Objection To The Current Administration Are , assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these States, solemnly publish and declare, that these united Citizens are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the George W Bush Administration, and that all political connection between them and the state of Corporate Oligarchy, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.
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Ron McCallie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 74 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 9:41:26 AM
and totally agree with you! I merely put this article in this form to make sure people SERIOUSLY read the item and decide for themselves, because as your post suggest, we are now no longer able to sit being armchair activists.
Sitting as armchair activists or on the sidelines is totally OVER.
Thanks for posting.
Virginia
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ladybroadoak (37 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 386 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 11:17:00 AM
Apparently the executive order means whatever Bush decides it means. As long as impeachment is off the table, Bush knows that he can do whatever he wants to do, consistent with the constitution or not. He has no restraints as long as Congress is unwilling to restrain him. So this executive order is just a formality and a warning that says... "I'm going to do whatever I want. Get used to it." Inch by inch he will take whatever powers he wants until he is stopped. Who knows when that might be given that he should have been stopped and prosecuted a long time ago.
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Mark A. Goldman (80 articles, 2 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 240 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 10:57:17 AM
All surmise is that this was aimed at Hilary and everyone else who obstructs (I think the phrase would be thwarts the will of) George W. Bush absolutely MAD interpretation of events in Iraq, is going to have every blessed thing taken away from them.
I've never thought impeachment was on the table; if it was proceedings would have started after Abu Gaghrib was exposeds .. clearly as David Swanson has suggested, someone is either being blackmailed and/or threatened otherwise some real progress on impeachment would have occured by now! I can no longer see that Bush has ANY powerbase whatsoever; whereas Cheney's (!!!) handprint is spreading everywhere in the known world, including Executive Order 51. In fact, he is sitting in the White House today, in total control for at least a couple of hours once again.
We know that the power of the President has always been the highest in the so-called free world, however these latest three encyclicals (who made them God ..?) are truly truly frightening.
I'll have to post the new petition I got via email about this on this comments section . people really should start talking, with petition in hand, to all their neighbors NOW. Since the lamestream media ain't gonna cover this properly (I know. I checked.) we are going to have to demand that they DO. We can't just have the right wingers (Fox News) crow about this. And we cannot allow ourselves to be ISOLATED - too much is at stake.
Please, anyone reading this, do write down your PERSONAL EXPERIENCES as you deal with this outrage .. what you encounter, what emails you get so we all stay IN THE LOOP! It's the only way to counter abusive mindset that has produced this. There can be no isolating, keeping this secret, or denying its INTENT.
ANYTIME, ANYWHERE the US President can come and declare someone a terrorist and shut up ANYONE ... and shut down any electoral process in the meantime.
Right time to be AFRAID, be very afraid .. but I won't have "them" jerking my chain.
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ladybroadoak (37 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 386 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 11:33:57 AM
Paying attention to current events has provided deep insights to just how the intelligent, religious Germans were turned into Nazis. All you need is enough Hitler-Beneficiaries [Dems and Reps] and create new laws [executive orders] at the stroke of a pen, and we're there. Not quite, but way down the slippery slope. Sad, isn't it!
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Edward Ulysses Cate (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 213 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 11:33:47 AM
We've become so dis-illusioned, which is part of the process of radicalization that we can become "frozen" in the headlights, so to speak for a time as new outrages to our integrity become apparent. Let's not let them take us there.
Start writing letters! demanding - haha - clarification on this item.
I know a source where you can buy NO INCUMBENT REELECTED bumperstickers for $5! Every single CONgressperson and every single Senator is culpable of keeping this all under warps this past week. They saw it, I saw it, you saw it! Reid, in fact, was on Fox News when it was announced.
The handwriting is ON THE WALL .. question is; what side are YOU on now? Silence is their weapon as these "new" Unitary Executive pronouncements get filed publically
- as the quote goes: in the end it isn't what our enemies do we remember, it's the silence of our friends.
Silence and grieving have no place in this battle anymore. With a single encyclical, Executive Order 51 basically robs any person of their integrity and their right to a future.
We know the CURE .. which is to talk about it, trust this can be UNDONE, feel real outrage and every other feeling AND ROCK THEIR BLOOLDY BOAT! every single chance you get. That's how you deal with abuse ...
The Germans simply did not have the education we've had about abuse.
Let me know how you are doin' when the anesthetic wears off. I am an emotional wreck, but then the US government stole EVERYTHING from me in 1994 under the War of Drugs, so I was a bit more prepared than the rest of the MURKANS and live up here in Canada with others who have already had everything stripped from them. The War on Drugs is just another HUGE, huge robbery, folks .. it prevents growing hemp, it tramples innocent people and keeps Big Pharma right in the driver's seat. Hundreds of us were ignored and reviled even by our own families in the past 15 years in the US. This stripping of our rights to court hearings, theft of our property and destruction of our families was "justified" by the War Measures Act, the US officials said ...
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ladybroadoak (37 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 386 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 11:53:45 AM
Paul Craig Roberts, former Asst. Sec. of the Treasury under Reagan was a guest on the Thom Hartmann show speaking about this latest assault on the American People..It is well summed up here....
I called her office this week demanding impeachment and was put on a voice mail. I called back and asked if they were taking a tally. and was told "No, that is a bit of a rumor." This made me furious.
Why is she NOT taking a tally or why isn't Conyers or someone else accumulating stats ...?
Since they make lawful protest via mail, phone and fax, impossible, people will take to the streets, pretty simple to work that out. I don't really know if cool heads are going to prevail either. The article on this shows just how deep feeling is running now that so-called democracy is finally exposed for all to see.
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ladybroadoak (37 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 386 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 1:57:11 PM
I just posted the below on C & L and I'd like to leave this message here too. It is obviously not targed to those of you that just expressed agreement with my thoughts.
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effective national strikes aren't going to happen unless some prominent democrats in congress call for it.
as for pelosi not seeking to impeach bush & cheney because she is concerned about having the appearance of a conflict of interest that is absolute bullshit too
1. We all know that they are criminals of the worst kind - the public knows this 2. if you think that a republican in her position wouldn't be going for it, you are a fool 3. And this is the most important of all. the very survival of our democracy may very well depend on it.
F*CK Pelosi, and Cindy and everyone else should be giving her pure hell to do her job - damn, don't you fools yet realize the stakes?!!!!
I am sick and tired of you progressive apologists making excuses while our democracy goes down the drain - if you wont get off your asses and fight - then get the F*ck out of the way
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RCG (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 352 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 2:24:29 PM
and you shall see that I have already posted about calling Pelosi's office and recommending that she APPOINT a nonparitisan committee so no "conflict of interest" will result. I called her office specifically to raise this point as she would be the next in succession.
I personally think/feel/believe that we are just waiting for Jay Rockefeller to enter the scene to take over Cheney's watch .. just as another Rockefeller took over from Agnew . . this is the Ruling Class game which is to just shuffle seats. It doesn't matter which Bush or Clinton gets in .. they are the same family, really, just cruising along with their ENTITLEMENT privileges .... and lack of spirituality.
Now, that said, we tried year after year to get a general strike going against the Vietnam war. It got nowhere, but we did do the legwork. What DID happen, though is that the VETERANS are the ones who stopped that war. And it is happening very fast in the US today . vets are totally disenchanted with this war and fed up being used as cannon fodder. I read all about on the net and get emails as to how it goes when these caravans get to a city. We must respect this people, help them out . they are the ones who are going to lead us out of IRAQ. And the First Nations people are drawing the line around the use of nuclear energy and bombs.
Forget the unions; they were neutralized in the US totally under the McCarthy era, truth be known. Now that is sad.
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ladybroadoak (37 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 386 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 3:19:22 PM
1. This, and other orders, and so vague that they can be applied in most any sort of way.
2. Bush and his gang are deranged, and can certainly not be trusted to apply any sort of reasonableness to a vague order or policy.
3. The other politicians refuse to restrain the lunatics.
The overall result, then, it that it might be OK, or it might be total tyranny, and there is no way to predict or rely on which it will be -- it's all left up to the whim of the lunatics. It's like playing Russian roulette -- maybe you won't get shot -- or maybe you will. Or maybe -- likely -- it's just a matter of time as the game continues to play out -- that THIS time the bullet will be in the chamber. I feel safer from the terrorists. They are more predictible.
This gang MUST be taken out, and soon. If congress won't do it, then at some point the people either will, or the nation will become a large-scale version of Kampuchia under Pol Pot. Hide your eyeglasses, liberal intellectual elitists -- and that goes for conservatives as well: the dogs of war don't discriminate. Most people still try to ignore or deny the reality, because the reality is not pleasing to think about. We have become a nation of men (if you can call them that) -- not of law or citizens -- a nation of the whims of madmen.
Check out places like http://waltonfeed.com/ which sells emergency food stores. Check the survivalist web sites. It may yet come to that. Maybe not -- but that's the problem: we don't know -- it's all up to the capricious delusions, driven by lust for power, of the lunatics.
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Blue Pilgrim (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 998 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 3:55:22 PM
Things are coming in via email and on the net .. this sums up my observations about this coming about when the "left" and "right" are so fractured . and just where IS Congressial leadership as this comes up!!
The Executive Order entitled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" provides the President with the authority to confiscate the assets of whoever opposes the US led war.
A presidential Executive Order issued on July 17th, repeals with the stroke of a pen the right to dissent and to oppose the Pentagon's military agenda in Iraq. *snip* please go and read the rest on the link above.
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ladybroadoak (37 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 386 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 4:12:18 PM
If the house voted on impeachment on Monday, then Chief Justice Roberts would preside over hearings in the senate and the Republicans and half of the dems would still give Bush a pass. We need still more hearings by the dems and hubris by Bushco, until the people of the USA are so goddamned pissed that the senators who would currently give Bush and Cheney a pass are so scared of losing their jobs that they vote to impeach the bastards.
That's gonna take a bit of time. Meanwhile, more and more members of the house of reps WILL sign on the Kucinich's bill, for starters, until Cheney sees the writing on the (Get the EFF out of town mofo) and gets a note from his doctor and resigns. Then will be the time to go after Bush, with the senate refusing to confirm a replacement.
A lot of polling needs to be done too, to show the republican senators that they will clearly lose their jobs if they don't impeach. But we're not there yet.
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Rob Kall (722 articles, 3752 quicklinks, 305 diaries, 1492 comments)
on Saturday, July 21, 2007 at 8:08:11 PM
should develop evidence and testimony, which should expose the abuses to the public, who should then put pressure on the senate for conviction -- should...
This should work something as the senate hearings did during Watergate, which were broadcast on PBS and was a source of information for the public. Qeustion -- would the TV even cover such proceedings now? In this of outrageous absurdities I'm not even sure the networks would. And if so, would he senators even bother to take phone calls and listen to the citizens?
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Blue Pilgrim (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 998 comments)
on Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 12:20:35 AM
I ain't leaving this to CONgress to fix .. nor are others
Yes AND, Rob ..
I think the WILLINGNESS on the part of people is there to do the phone calls to say .. "no incumbents reelected unless you get out of Iraq and put impeachment on the table".. is in full swing. There is a groundswell of support that remained untapped previously and that is the great hope.
I made a list out this week of ALL the issues I am following .. and it's just amazingly long, and others have their lists now, too! Big fat looooooooooong ones of abuses they just cannot stomach that have grown out of the Administration that went wild. The VA being ridiculous about vets, torture, unhappy about the Libby "commutation", so-called global warming, hookergate which hit the mainstream news thanx to Vitter, illegal wiretaps, chemtrails, disenchantment after Katrina as people realized the YOYO mentality (You are On Your Own), BOTH Iraq plans being a total failure, voting caging, inflation (no M3 money supply info, people just KNOW), bad schools, bad crime/no cops, the multiple stints in Iraq for troops and mercanies, concentration of the media, 9/11 questions, high gasoline prices not due to inflation but a secret war tax at the pumps, fear of peak oil, the end to the ban on nuclear building being over after 30 years thus exposing US and the water to bad drinking water (a bottom line issue) and new nukes, court delays due to an undone DoJ, voting caging being exposed, brushfires, flooding, weather changes in general, earthchanges, lack of compassion, the rich getting richer (we can see the superprofits), the FDA's dirty hand all over natural medicines, Big Pharma and HMO expenses, incomprehension about Putin and why he is suddenly back in the news, the coming of 2012 for which many have been preparing for YEARS and on and on and on and on.
POINT: There is not one single person, not ONE, who has not been personally -- or had some family member -- affected in some very negative way by this administration.
And they are sick to death of their own cynicism, to boot. What will they have to hand to their children if this goes on unchecked ..? is the current thinking.
I can see the procedural problems, but I also understand MOMENTUM, whereby entrope finds it cannot maintain itself. Once IN MOTION, there is no turning back. Should CONgress drag its heels, woe be onto them, imho.
Impeachment of Cheney is Bill 333; the wags suggest Bush should be Bill 666:
I do not think we will wait that long. Even with impeachment on the table, the natives are restless if the net is any kind of indication at all. I got out of the cliques, the impeachment groups ages ago and stick with the grassrootz, many of whom do not know they are grassrootz, they think they are pundits (same as me!) and they are calling for blood now. Everyone is sick to death of feeling helpless and hopeless. I think that our cultural wakeup calls were devised last year (SiCkO and so on) and are now hitting the mass of people. People have been reading Armed Madhouse, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, global warming books, books on peak oil, heavy hitting documentaries being shown AROUND THE WORLD .. the culture has changed as no reliance on the lamestream media was possible. I am trying to think of some snappy, little soundbite on this but cannot. It's just that the way we get information has drastically, drastically changed. People know this .. whether consciously or not. This leads me to believe that social institutions that are NOT responsive are going to have a right hard time; ie, CONGress itself. Everybody wants some vision of something BETTER ... and even Bush's ridiculous continual "optimism" and good cheer will not suffice much longer.
Bush's ill health could be a good copout ... LOL. But no one is going to tolerate Cheney. No way! He is reviled by all but the Texa$ boyz and military contractors. The Xian fundies have no real reason to support him. I would think his greatest fear (if he had any survival instinct, which I doubt, he just has a HUGE sense of ENTITLEMENT) is being blown away by some CIA person who is very angry about outting Valerie Plame and letting her cell be exposed to DEATH. Man, if I were him I do not know which way I would be running .. not to Argentina, for sure!
Here is my verdict: this is way beyond social detente now. And the momentum is going to propel things way faster than any of us dares hope; maybe a very bumpy ride for awhile.
The stop SPP actions in Quebec in August 19 to 20th could be another real thorn in the side for the powers that be .. and that is my next OpEd piece ... see www.yaya.ca and www.globalresearch.ca to stay current on the North American Union and the Security and Prosperity Protocal. These activities make people instantly radicalized, as in "Security and Prosperity for who ...?" The anti-people agenda simply must shift, and in this action, as in many others, you see women, native peoples taking the LEAD, people who have too much too lose to be complacent.
Meanwhile, how will Pelosi feel when Cindy S. gets her seat ...? if she drags her heels ...?
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ladybroadoak (37 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 386 comments)
on Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 1:53:52 AM
@bluepilgrim - Check out places like http://waltonfeed.com/ which sells emergency food stores. Check the survivalist web sites. It may yet come to that. Maybe not -- but that's the problem: we don't know -- it's all up to the capricious delusions, driven by lust for power, of the lunatics.
You nailed it blue, and for the first time in my 46 years I can say I am now terrified of my gov't. The writing on the wall has become clear. So clear, that I now look at my teenage children and I wonder what will happen to them if If bush attempts a total takeover of the gov't. I am deeply concerned as we all should be. He can take away the property of all those who politically opposed and still oppose him. He can imprison them without trial (Habeas corpus); he can use the military to do this in American streets (Posse Comitatus). And he has concentration camps at the ready all over the country. We also have numerous famous people saying that they expect bush/cheney to create another 911 (Paul Craig Roberts and Pat Buchanan for example). I could go on and on, but all this points to one thing and one thing only. Like I said, the writing is on the wall. People, bluepilgrim is right, get ready. Get ready now - and if you think that this is too far fetched - just consider who I am talking about and what the extent of the absolute horrors that they have already enacted. Think TORTORE and going to war based on lies and the snuffing out of 755,000 human beings, and more.
As for you Rob, waiting for more information to be gathered due to the testimony of subpoenaed people who have already refused to come in and have been ordered not to by the same man who has ordered the justice dept. not to enforce said subpoena's - well, that's bullshit. Rob, you would have us wait until...when? Enough already! Let the impeachment proceedings themselves bring out the additional evidence that you claim we need (god, I cannot believe I just said that - like we don't have enough already to impeach 50 presidents - your position is absurd and laughable on it's face) - AND somehow should you be right, and we are impeaching to early - well, good god man, how you gonna get impeachment proceedings going if they get much closer to the end of their terms? Christ I could almost hear you now saying, "what's the use? It will just make us look petty. They are on the way out anyway AND we need to concentrate on the upcoming election."
People, it's now or never. And Rob Kall knows it too. What he's doing is trying to stall us. Don't listen to him anymore. Please in the name of God in Heaven - don't listen to him. We must impeach. Immediately. There is no more time to waste. And someone please copy my post should it get deleted.
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RCG (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 352 comments)
on Sunday, July 22, 2007 at 3:02:20 AM
