America supplying arms to the Palastinians was no mistake in judgement they knew exactly what would happen.With the Palastinians busy killing each other it solves 2 problems,one it gets rid of many more Palastians and two it keeps them busy so they are not planning attacks on Israel and Israel doesn"t have the pressure to actually pretend to be negotiating to solve the Palastinian problem they have created.Its a win win situation for America and the Jews.

by liberalsrock (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 256 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 8:23:51 AM

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I wonder if 'civilized' men will ever put their guns down and wake up and see what they are doing to the children.

I know it can ONLY happen when there is a transformation of heart and minds to see NOT stereotypes and "the other" but that ALL are sacred human beings and we must learn to share this world as equals.

I became Personally involved in the Palestinian Israeli issue the second I viewed a photo of a little boy in Bethlehem, named George of Beit Jala [west Bethlehem] who graces the WAWA Banner. http://www.wearewideawake.org

In 2000, George was 'captured' by photographer Debbie Hill, the morning after the Israeli army destroyed his bedroom in retaliation for a few hopeless militants who had infiltrated his once peaceful Christian village to snipe across the way into the illegal colony of Gilo.

The shrapnel that pierced the wall of his sanctuary read "Made in USA" and was delivered via American made Apache helicopters.

The second I saw George's eyes, my heart said "DO SOMETHING!"

What I have done is travel four times in the last two years to OPT [and I am returning for a 5th in July] to bear witness and report the facts on the ground the USA government and media ignores: THE CHILDREN!

The only way I can endure the visceral pain of being in occupied territory is because of my faith and the solidarity and good works of truth telling Israelis and NONVIOLENT Palestinians and Internationals who seek justice for the least, which is the only way to achieve security and peace for anyone.

But, it seems that FEAR has taken the upper hand, for it drives the economies of empire.

The following is excerpted from:
Laboratory for a Fortressed World 
by Naomi Klein

"Israel has learned to turn endless war into a brand asset, pitching its uprooting, occupation and containment of the Palestinian people as a half-century head start in the "global war on terror....

by Eileen Fleming (172 articles, 101 quicklinks, 274 diaries, 650 comments [16 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Jun 16, 2007 at 9:17:31 AM

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As to be expected you bleeding heart progressives have picked the wrong side of the Arab/Israeli conflict.  So that you to can be historically accrete you need to watch this HERE and after you see that you have been totally wrong about the conflict and in fact embodied the terrorists (as usual) you will need to accept the fact that your unable to understand the world political reality, with your cum ba la/group think, goggles on. 

Ooh, this is the funniest thing I have read in weeks.  Hamas and looters raid Arafat's home, steal his Nobel Peace Prize.  Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, stop it your killing me!  The religion of peace blows the front door off Arafat’s house and ransacks it including the peace prize.  This is after spending the week tossing people off the tallest building they could find in Gaza. Dragging others to there death behind there cars.  Killing all that oppose them and then when carnage seems to be slowing down, as a cake topper to show the world that yes we can sink lower, steal the peace prize.  Ha, Ha, Ha!  But that’s not all folks.  Hamas also stated that fanatical Islam is to be practiced by all in Gaza.  Any one that is gay will be shot dead; any woman that doesn’t wear the proper wraps will be killed.  Any man that doesn’t wear a beard will be killed.  Anyone that wants to practice a non Islamic religion will be killed.  All seculars and atheists will be killed.  And last but not least anyone that disagrees with Hamas will be killed.  And you progressives are on there side?  Your stupidity is suicidal for what you say you believe in.  In closing let me say that I’m not laughing with you, I’m laughing at you.  Ha, Ha, Ha!

http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/

by David C Beach (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 169 comments) on Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:55:49 AM

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because you are being a heartless idiot. There is nothing at all funny about the situation!

 You say in your bio "I hate trolls and strive not to be one." You have failed utterly with your mocking post.

  THE WORLD’S BIGGEST SHAM

by Blue Pilgrim (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 997 comments) on Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 1:58:30 AM

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What’s funny is that the religion of peace produces most of the active terrorists, murderers and thugs in the world mostly financed and armed by Iran.  What’s funny are liberals and socialists embracing a theology that if successful will kill you all.  And states in no uncertain terms that you are the enemy!  What’s not funny about a religion of PEACE looting a PEACE prize? I guess its funny to me because I don’t believe the Palestinians are anything other than pawns being played by the thugdoms of the Middle East to there own ends.  I don’t respect the so called Palestinians because they produce though there actions and inactions the living conditions they then b*tch about continually.  I have no respect for parents sending there kids out to explode or men that hide behind woman, children and masks.  The Israelis are the most tolerant people on this earth putting up with 50 years of 12 Th century ignorance and terror from all that surround them.  I think it’s sad that though your passivity and misplaced compassion you encourage and embolden very bad people to be even worse as played out in Gaza last week.  I think it’s funny every time you have to make new excuses and exceptions to be “understanding” of the inhumanity of their fanaticism/ignorance.

by David C Beach (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 169 comments) on Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 6:05:18 AM

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"Prince of Peace", and ask him about the Christian Crusades, while you are at it -- if you meet him.

It's painful for me to even think about the level of your ignorance.

by Blue Pilgrim (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 997 comments) on Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 5:42:04 PM

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Blue Pilgrim,

Where in the world did your asinine statement, "Ask the Prince of Peace," come from? "War" never aluded to Jesus Christ! As far as you and I know, he is not a Chrisitian. 

Where in the world is there any context about the "Tenth Century Crusades?" He has not mentioned Christianity in any context at all. Your illogic is amazing.

Do you always go to such extraordinary means to attack Christianity no matter the context?

by pratliff94 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 972 comments) on Monday, Jun 18, 2007 at 4:20:46 PM

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Is that to call Islam is not a relgion of peace ignores the violence of members of any religion. Sorry you didn't get the drift of that.

by Blue Pilgrim (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 997 comments) on Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 6:15:36 PM

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For all the wishful thinking and compassion of those who would like to see peace for everyone (and eventual prosperous conditions for Arab Palestinians), clarity is missing.
The two state solution appears to many to be a subterfuge for postponing any sort of settlement while a 'Greater Israel' goes on forming itself. It appears this way to those who consider Israel politics to be dominated by its extreme right political faction. Apart from Uri Avnery, one does not hear many Israelis speaking in criticism of those on the far right, who are insisting that God gave a certain large territory to Jews alone. Nor does one recollect any addressing of the simple legacy of history displacing some 600,000 people and replacement them with an invited in 600,000, never mind how and why it happened, lets say it just happened. Then, perhaps cooling deal with this backdrop of history and how it might be affecting the present.

A map of the West Bank looks like Swiss cheese with the holes representing Israeli enclaves, and offers the viewer the no notion of a viable territory for making a nation. One rarely reads anything written by an Israeli person of consequence that speaks to genuine expectations for the creation of a successful nation by an extremely downtrodden, beaten, occupied for decades, largely refugee population living in great part on donations for basic necessities, albeit, having great energy and stubborn belief in themselves, situated next to a healthy, wealthy, highly educated and cosmopolitan people, sumptuously endowed by the world's superpower Rome of today.

We, who are not in Israel nor in the occupied territories, realize that Israeli citizens read newspapers and watch the images on TV. They most assuredly feel the embarrassment and anguish over the violent deaths of tens of thousands of Palestinians Arabs, more often than not, people resembling closely, face by face, child by child, person by person, the thousands of Israelis killed.

 And Jews can certainly appreciate, perhaps more than anyone, the Palestinian suffering of being a captive nation, and in great part removed from their land and homes.  They can imagine that if a neutral observer came down from another planetary system, the first thing asked would be, "Well, who is in charge here?  Which side has more control, power and influence to change things?"  So all these years, any discussions of Israel's non compliance with over a hundred Security Council and U.N. Assembly resolutions, as such should include having confidence that Jews are perfectly capable of demanding intelligent self-accountability from their own Israeli government.

This ignorant writer strives to hold to the Buddhist teaching of having an empty mind, without opinions, and conceptual self-consciousness, but what keeps coming up in memory is Albert Einstein, Martin Buber, Eric Fromm, all advising against partition, anticipating violence and unhappiness.

A final settlement of unification was set to a date far into the future, both in the Hong Kong solution and now in British Ireland.
Is it out of the range of imagination that in this space age of one human race awareness, that after some many decades or even a century, that a ONE state solution in Palestine would evolve, even perhaps unplanned. What if everyone converted to Judaism? or embraced some similar unifying process?

On c-span, I saw the incredibly gentle, kind and pleasantly and confidently relaxed countenances of a group of Orthodox Rabbis in full colorful traditional regalia on the stage as their statement was read out over a microphone that they deemed should not be used by themselves on the Sabbath.
 
Rabbi Yisroel D. Weiss and his fellow representatives of the Neturei Karta, at the
March on Washington Against War and Racism.

 Please do not think, that by supporting the Zionist state, you
are protecting or in some way helping the Jews people. On the
contrary, by helping Israel stay in existence, you are assisting in
the killing of Arabs and Jews alike. You are helping the buildup of
anti-Semitism universally, we plead with you, stop all support to
Israel! stop all assistance! stop all aid!
To our Jewish brethren, religious and not yet religious – Do not be
intimidated by Zionist terror tactics!!
Proclaim loudly and clearly, that only those who fully believe and
practice our religion, who believe in the ethical and moral basics of
our faith and who remain loyal to the Torah, may legitimately speak
in the name of our people.
Tell the world, loudly and clearly, that you support Palestinian
statehood in the ENTIRE Holy Land, not despite your Jewish identity,
but because of it!!!
To our Islamic brethren – please do not judge our faith or our
people, on the basis of this passing lunacy of Zionism. The Jews,
ever have been and ever will be, your friends. Do not allow your
understandable anger to settle, on those who are innocent of
wrongdoing, regardless whether they reside in Occupied Palestine,
Europe, or anywhere around the globe.
Together, men of all nations, standing together, will yet be worthy,
with God’s help, speedily and peacefully, without further pain and
bloodshed, be it Arab or Jewish, to see the liberation of Palestine
from its occupiers, the proclamation of Palestinian statehood over
the entire Land, and peace and harmony amongst all of its
inhabitants.
And may we yet merit to see, in the very near future, the revelation
of the One God, over the entire world, with all mankind in His
servitude, in joyous brotherhood, AMAN
A Salem aleikhum
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by Jay Janson (105 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 117 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Sunday, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:40:51 AM

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