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September 15, 2007 at 07:30:32

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Checking Bush's numbers

by Terry Ballard     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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I have to confess that I couldn't watch the entire speech last night. From the few minutes I saw, it looked well-rehearsed. Lies, unproven assumptions and cliches dripped from his mouth like honey. I left the room and walked the dog around the block. When I came back, I saw Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews mention the "Coalition of 36 nations," without actually challenging that number. This set off alarms in my head because I had looked into this matter before (See http://terryballard.blogspot.com/2006/03/coalition-of-forgotten.html). Last March, the "Coalition" was pretty much the George and Tony show. I went back to my original source, the Brookings Institution which patiently maintains statistics about the state of things in Iraq. Their numbers show 7 countries with combat troops in Iraq. Only three of those (United Kingdom, South Korea and Georgia) have troop strength in 4 figures. They then go on to maintain a list of 25 countries that are giving some sort of personnel support - we assume that this is mostly medical and humanitarian. So where did the number 36 come from? With all of the care they took in writing 20 drafts of this speech, how could an easily checked misstatement get through? Perhaps he is talking about the number of nations that initially contributed troops. However, he did use the persent tense. This speech was vetted by people who know the facts, so I must come to the conclusion that this was a deliberate lie. It makes me less likely to believe other assertions that he made that can't be directly checked. Such as:

"Terrorists and extremists who are at war with us around the world are seeking to topple Iraq's government, dominate the region, and attack us here at home. If Iraq's young democracy can turn back these enemies, it will mean a more hopeful Middle East and a more secure America." So by keeping Iraq's government afloat we are more safe at home? Even the general got flustered when asked to substantiate this point of view.

"The premise of our strategy is that securing the Iraqi population is the foundation for all other progress. For Iraqis to bridge sectarian divides, they need to feel safe in their homes and neighborhoods." Not such good news here. If you go further down page 30 of the Brookings report, you will see the last few years' worth of numbers on violent attacks in Iraq. In the populated provinces such as Baghdad, the overhwelming trend is more violence each period. All of this during times that the president gave us regular assurances that things are getting better in Iraq. This rise in violence continues during a time where the major demographic trend was for the religious factions to move to neighborhoods that contained only their type.

"Today, most of Baghdad's neighborhoods are being patrolled by coalition and Iraqi forces who live among the people they protect. Many schools and markets are reopening. Citizens are coming forward with vital intelligence. Sectarian killings are down. And ordinary life is beginning to return." This is ordinary life? Brookings data shows that about 3000 Iraqis per month meet a violent end. Considering that Iraq's population is about one fifteenth that of the U.S., they experience 9/11 about every other day. This is normal? That is about as compelling as John McCain's stroll to the market with a backup of 500 armed troops.

So here is where we're at, and my assessment is somewhat different from the president's. After nearly 5 years, we are propping up a government of Shi'ites - the majority sect that also is the dominant religion of Iran. We are arming Sunnis who have American blood on their hands as long as they assure us that they'll fight Al Qaida. The agreements that Parliament was to have hammered out while the Surge was making them more secure have not materialized. Now that Karl Rove is a free agent, he should go to Iraq and explain to them the art of compromise.

 

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Terry Ballard was a native of Phoenix, Arizona until he made a wrong turn in 1990 - he has been living on Long Island ever since. His chief regret in life is that he does not have the option to live on some other planet.

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Peter Dearman is a teacher living in Taiwan. He is concerned about depleted uranium, repression in Burma, stolen elections, organ harvesting, aspartame, sugar, species depletion, animal abuse, ocean pollution, helium depletion and the generally high level of bad things happening in the world today.
Peter DearmanPeter Dearman is a teacher living in Taiwan. He is concerned about depleted uranium, repression in Burma, stolen elections, organ harvesting, aspartame, sugar, species depletion, animal abuse, ocean pollution, helium depletion and the generally high level of bad things happening in the world today.

Displaced Iraqis doubled despite (trans: because of) surge

In the populated provinces such as Baghdad, the overhwelming trend is more violence each period. All of this during times that the president gave us regular assurances that things are getting better in Iraq. This rise in violence continues during a time where the major demographic trend was for the religious factions to move to neighborhoods that contained only their type.

You said it! Are you aware of the actual news reports profoundly confirming your statement? Yes, they (the MSM) did print it a few token times to cover their asses.

The NYTimes News Service: Divide to Conquer - (my headline)

Int. Herald Tribune: Number of internal refugees soars in Iraq

Guardian: Displaced Iraqis double despite US military surge

These all report the findings by humanitarian groups that internal displacement has double since the surge began. And look at this - they've hardly just begun:

UN envoy warns surge likely in Afghan displaced
Reuters Canada, Canada - Aug 20, 2007

Ah, yes. The "good war." Check the dateline on that last...

by Peter Dearman (9 articles, 27 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 130 comments) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 9:53:03 AM
 


57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive worked�many jobs from�a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36� BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Andris57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive worked�many jobs from�a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36� BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Checking Your numbers

Not that I mind, but I think you'll find he was including those countries that were there for the invasion and have withdrawn since. Acknowleging them is smart politics.

By the way if you check the Aust Dept of Defence we have more than 1000 troops in Iraq. True many are involved in 'humanitarian' work (important work 'Victories are won in hearts and minds not in the battlefield")  and they are at risk too, no one is safe in Iraq.

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 531 comments) on Sunday, September 16, 2007 at 7:08:12 PM
 


Terry Ballard was a native of Phoenix, Arizona until he made a wrong turn in 1990 - he has been living on Long Island ever since. His chief regret in life is that he does not have the option to live on some other planet.
Terry BallardTerry Ballard was a native of Phoenix, Arizona until he made a wrong turn in 1990 - he has been living on Long Island ever since. His chief regret in life is that he does not have the option to live on some other planet.

Numbers

The Brookings data shows 900 for Australia, so you are likely correct when one adds various support personnel. If Bush was actually referring to countries that had helped initially, it would have been very simple to convey that in a truthful statement. "I wish to thank the 36 countries who have put troops on the ground since this mission started."

by Terry Ballard (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 13 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 6:33:34 AM
 


57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive worked�many jobs from�a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36� BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Andris57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive worked�many jobs from�a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36� BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Bush, Engrish exspression?

True true, I was not defending him only expressing a possible expanation (spin included)

After all this is the goose who when landing in Aust  said it "was nice to be in Austria" (wishful thinking?)

Then Said he was glad to be at OPEC instead of APEC ( again  wishful thinking or a Freudian slip?)

Either way between spin and Bushisms who believes a word he says? Only those who are so desperate  that they're willing to suspend  reality and the the truth.

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 531 comments) on Monday, September 17, 2007 at 5:58:34 PM
 

 

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