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August 26, 2006 at 09:19:09

Some deep introspection into "America" is desperately needed

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I know what anger is like, in fact I know what white hot rage is like. I know what being shot at is like, and to shoot back. I've had the dubious experience of having drawn firearms on other armed people.

For reasons that pass understanding, I have no fear of this. Perhaps it's because the loss of my own life is not as big of deal as once it was. Maybe it's because I don't look for gods to save me or angels to watch over me anymore.



Americans, on the other hand, despite the bottomless pit of rhetoric, by and large scurry away when it comes time to put up or shut up. They accept bilge from "history books" governmental officials well known to be liars in the extreme, and from preachers, who like governmental figures, are long established in the "Liar's" Hall of Infamy."

None the less, Americans have no problem applying rules to others they themselves don't follow. That is, for no apparent reason than two centuries of massive propaganda, Americans have no reason for pride in the actions of their Government or their country.


I still hear people raving about "pinkos, commies" and other such sad nonsense. The rational person immediately realizes the inability to communicate with such cabbage heads.

This problem has caused many to simply avoid most subjects of interest concerning world and national affairs. The ole "religion, politics and the Great Pumpkin" approach.


I never cease to marvel at how many verbatim quotes from members of the Bush trash and other politicians I hear almost daily.

I was listening to a good friend explain to me why the use of not one but two nuclear weapons in Japan was necessary despite the fact that the use of incediary bombs on Tokyo killed more people than both nuclear devices combined. I could have picked up some right wing exegesis and like come close to a verbatim quote.


It's as if Americans are frightened of the truth about their country. Perhaps if any part of the "story" is a lie, then all of it might be. Now I'm not suggesting that Ellis Island is really the gates to Hell, but I am suggesting that unless people are minus cerebral hemispheres, they'd know what their "elected" officials are doing.

These officials would be clearly aware of the fact they are being watched and the Constitution would contain a clause allowing the People in a nationwide referendum to remove any member of congress, Supreme Court, or Executive Branch if found to be guilty of clearly specified crimes. None of this "high crimes and misdemeanors nonsense.

But no, presently people like Manuel Noriega, and now the former Leader of the Ukraine, are in jail or facing jail for crimes committed whilst in the employ of the US Government as was the case of Noriega, and now Former Ukrainian Prime Minster Pavlo Lazarenko for alleged crimes committed in his own country.

From what vat of gall does the US draw the authority to try people for alleged crimes not committed in or against the US? Further, who will try the countless Americans for grievous crimes against humanity starting with the genocide committed against the Native people of this land, right up to the senseless murder of Arabs in the Middle East. Or the Millions killed in Vietnam for absolutely no reason at all.

What about Pol Pot? Two or three million people died at the hands of the Khmer Rouge whilst the US didn't lift a finger. What about US CIA Heroin and Cocaine sales in the US to finance Covert operations in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and then, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras, etc., etc., etc., ETC. (et cetera, not exsetra) Nothing is done about these horrific crimes and acts of terrorism. Terrorism by the CIA's own definition!


You know?, I think the reason Americans don't take a hand is because they are cowards in the extreme. Years now of JonBenet Ramsey splashed all over the media, and nothing for the Iraqi with the dead baby in his hands with a blue pacifier around his cold little neck.

My recollection is that the baby was not his, and yet the look on his face was that of a man whose every reason for living suddenly disappeared. One photo of countless. Yeah, that's right, I collect em. Yet, not one from any American media.

I have no power or authority over much of anything, but by god and sonny jesus, if I did, I'd return this country to it's owners and the Americans can swim home.

 

Mr. Bohne is a clockmaker and activist. He HATES the US Government, and without stretching the truth (reality) will do anything to dig up dirt on any of these bastards, as long as it's REAL dirt. "the first man to raise his fists, is the first man to run out of ideas."

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Eileen is the Reporter and Editor of wearewideawake.orgProducer of "30 Minutes with Vanunu" and "13 Minutes with Vanunu" Author of "Keep Hope Alive" and "Memoirs of a Nice Irish American 'Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory" She has been to Israel Palestine five times since June 2005.
She is currently working on "The Boom Boom Benny Story"

Eileen FlemingEileen is the Reporter and Editor of wearewideawake.orgProducer of "30 Minutes with Vanunu" and "13 Minutes with Vanunu" Author of "Keep Hope Alive" and "Memoirs of a Nice Irish American 'Girl's' Life in Occupied Territory" She has been to Israel Palestine five times since June 2005.
She is currently working on "The Boom Boom Benny Story"

"The walls of pride are high and wide

You can't see over to the other side"-Bob Dylan

Introspection, reflection, contemplation is NOT valued in today's society.

Easy answers and seeing everything in black and white, and missing the diverse spectrum of shades of grey and NOT questioning authority is the status quo of "modern" society

What we need in the USA is to recapture the spirit of the founding fathers: Jefferson, Franklin, Paine:

The most revolutionary minded of all the founding fathers was the radical writer, Tom Paine. With flaming hopes, a vision of a new world and compelled by the spirit and determination of its people to resist British occupation, Paine devoted himself to the American cause. He began with a forty page pamphlet, "Common Sense" which emboldened the settlers to become compatriots and rise up in rebellion. His words formed a nation where democracy is still being defined.

"Soon after I had published the pamphlet "Common Sense" [on Feb. 14, 1776] in America, I saw the exceeding probability that a revolution in the system of government would be followed by a revolution in the system of religion... The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."-Tom Paine

Fundamentalists are holding up evolution, what we need is a new revolution: a Greater Awakening:
the evolution of humanity into fully human and fully spiritual beings, for then men would turn their swords into plowshears and make war no more,


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by Eileen Fleming (146 articles, 51 quicklinks, 266 diaries, 579 comments) on Saturday, August 26, 2006 at 10:05:50 AM
 


A writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Mark SashineA writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Americans

are no different from others. The only thing is that historically they never had a government openly working against its people. Other people had that in abundance.
Americans are not cowards en - masse- our society is based on a very small security for an individual while at the same time- it considers everyone's problem as his/her own. You can use that as a weapon- say tell your ' friend' that when the goods come for him it will be his problem. It will be quite a shock and you might loose a friend but isn't that what real friendship is about?

Americans are facing maybe the most unusual challenge of their existence. But they should study from the experience of others. Looks like the author does just that. Other people do that too.

by Mark Sashine (51 articles, 19 quicklinks, 244 diaries, 3453 comments) on Saturday, August 26, 2006 at 10:31:15 AM
 


Mr. Bohne is a clockmaker and activist. He HATES the US Government, and without stretching the truth (reality) will do anything to dig up dirt on any of these bastards, as long as it's REAL dirt.

"the first man to raise his fists, is the first man to run out of ideas."

tedbohneMr. Bohne is a clockmaker and activist. He HATES the US Government, and without stretching the truth (reality) will do anything to dig up dirt on any of these bastards, as long as it's REAL dirt.

"the first man to raise his fists, is the first man to run out of ideas."

as above

The framers of the Constitution were wealthy, white, land owning males. No one else could vote. Their "ideas" were so diverse in substance that these people could agree on nothing. Dr. Franklin said,"but we need government!" I suppose they hoped wiser minds would prevail. NOT! By a serious investigation of US history you would discover that this country's government has NEVER worked with it's people. Then came people like FDR who used socialism as a tool to lift the American people out of a situation Hoover could do nothing about. The examples are endless. Such as how the Americans had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the WWII as well as WWI. "Remember the Maine!," "Remember the Lusitania!" Well, we now know what happened to the USS Maine and the Lusitania. One a stupid mistake, and the other, outright fraud. Imagine what the world might look like today if the US had entered WWII a few years earlier. That's where I suppose i have less trouble. I don't expect anything from this Country or it's government. I have no respect for it for good reason. Those people who NEED government, leadership or something to protect them are the type to be infected with ideology such as Americanism, or worse yet, any form of religion. The Data, both factual and evidential, stand with me. I'll stand fast on what I wrote.

by tedbohne (87 articles, 103 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 119 comments) on Saturday, August 26, 2006 at 12:04:53 PM
 


A writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mark SashineA writer is a rogue goose. All other gees fly in a flock formation; every goose knows his place and time for honking. The rogue goose is undisciplined. He leaves the formation indiscriminately to have a look at it from aside. He roams back and forth, takes a peep at the leader, honks a little bit from behind, distracts everyone and writes on what he sees. Time passes and as he wants to return back to his place he discovers someone else there. Thus he either has to wait until they land for rest...

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Oh, but I agree

I just can make as many examples of fraud, deliberate malice and outright evil done by the governments of other nations to their respective people. Even more! Some governments killed their own people en masse( Germans, Chinese, Russians). Some killed other people en masse( French, English, Spanish). People of the other nations thus developed an immunity to the propaganda, stupidity, govt lies, etc. We do not have it here. Here the US people were pampered psychologically as we pamper an autistic kid. It is a national autism. Bush is autistic. His soul is dead. But he personifies all the other autistic tendencies ( I do not mean real medical condition but rather some psychological deficiency). In short, the US people, especially white ones had not developed a set of the survival qualities necessary to live as human in the modern world. Thus they stop being humans, many of them.
But it is rather a tragedy. It does not mean the people here are somehow different from the others. I even would argue that our diversity will save us. Hopefully.

by Mark Sashine (51 articles, 19 quicklinks, 244 diaries, 3453 comments) on Saturday, August 26, 2006 at 1:03:27 PM
 


Mr. Bohne is a clockmaker and activist. He HATES the US Government, and without stretching the truth (reality) will do anything to dig up dirt on any of these bastards, as long as it's REAL dirt.

"the first man to raise his fists, is the first man to run out of ideas."

tedbohneMr. Bohne is a clockmaker and activist. He HATES the US Government, and without stretching the truth (reality) will do anything to dig up dirt on any of these bastards, as long as it's REAL dirt.

"the first man to raise his fists, is the first man to run out of ideas."

No Subject Entered

Well, you apparently are one of the needy types. For a country that in it's unfathomable arrogance sets itself up as a envyable social paradigm, one to be emulated by everyone, you don't get to fuck up on the scale of this one. American's are incurably uniformed and seem to wish to stay that way. The US has never in it's history done anything altruistically. History demonstrates this without equivocation. Maybe YOU need to believe in something, as for me, I believe I'll have another beer.

by tedbohne (87 articles, 103 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 119 comments) on Saturday, August 26, 2006 at 1:27:53 PM
 


The author lives in Eugene, OR. Interests include 'Group Psychotherapy' and 'Psychodrama'. She is also an RN. One 'Favorite Quote': 'Insanity is the exception in individuals. In groups, parties, peoples and times it is the rule.' ......Friedrich Nietzsche
Katrin R.The author lives in Eugene, OR. Interests include 'Group Psychotherapy' and 'Psychodrama'. She is also an RN. One 'Favorite Quote': 'Insanity is the exception in individuals. In groups, parties, peoples and times it is the rule.' ......Friedrich Nietzsche

you are not only depressed, but quite arrogant

Who are you to know every American so well? If you do, then you are just one of them.....one of every one's expert opinion. You don't know shit about Panurg, or me for that matter, or about many others. You say you cannot do a damn thing...maybe you have tried. So have I.....It does not take more 'intelligence' for people to get it, but more exposure to the 'gut'...it certainly woke me up. Stop whining about our goverment....you are not the only one who hates it...and all this religious shit. Amen! PS: You are not the only one who prefers a beer..... and choses just that. I'll have two!

by Katrin R. (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 514 comments) on Saturday, August 26, 2006 at 11:26:58 PM
 

 

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