We can't stand another impeachment? Chris Shays missed his guess on this one. Millions of people our here are betting on it. If ever there were a time in US history that Impeachment Proceedings as prescribed by the Constitution were demanded, it is now.
Pelosi has it all wrong if her reason for passing up this necessity is because "we don't get even." Clearly,then, she too has missed her guess, and furthermore that thought requires one to find out what her mindset really is. Clearly she is way off course and is prepared to let salient criminals slither away, as is the republican behavior following any of their historic criminal actions.
This group of crimes however, supersedes any in US history and demands action. The dead will never rest until these perverse miscreants are punished for their crimes. A Goof of a human being, illegitimately placed in the office of POTUS followed by a virtual sellout of the government, such as it was, to US Corporate Giants.
Look at the massive profits these perverse businesses are bringing in! That alone should show people that massive criminal operations are afoot. If the Brits are right, the well over a half million Iraqis are dead, cities destroyed, the country virtually dead.
Billions of US taxpayer dollars stolen by US Companies like Halliburton, CACI, Titan, Blackwater, and Canadian Companies such as Global Risk. There are some 70,000 mercenaries in Iraq, the Bush Cartel will admit to only about 20,000. There is no rebuilding going on, and it will be a long time, if ever that it is.
Keeping US Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan to preserve order is a joke. There IS NO order. The number of Iraqi dead every day is in the tens and some days, hundreds. The US, because of a stunning lack of knowledge of the middle eastern culture and Islam have opened a can of beans that is likely to spread.
The countries that border Iraq stated unequivocally as did the Bush administration prior to this galaxian crime that Hussein was "bottled up" and presented no immediate problem. So the Bush Family et al, simply made up problems. All of the people including Americans, died for NOTHING AT ALL.
There has never been a threat to US sovereignty, or safety. All this terrorist garbage was made up by the Bush people and the Republican party in an attempt to foist this new draconian order on the American people and the world.
These same Philistines have enriched themselves and their fat friends many times over. So what are the crimes Pelosi is forgiving? Well murder for one, and mass murder at that. Theft of American Tax Dollars, Invading sovereign countries, lying to congress, lying to the American people, rewriting established laws to allow them to carry on clearly criminal detention of people who been charged with nothing, torture BY ANY DEFINITION, and these are but a few.
The Bush group is falling apart like a house of cards now. Criminal indictments are more common than toilet paper. Rats are leaving this sinking ship in droves and now it's time to address the "captain" and crew of this sinking ship.
The act of impeachment hasn't a thing to do with getting even. It is for the purposes of bring criminals to justice. Or is "American style justice" only for those who can't afford to defend themselves against it? This country CAN stand impeachment proceedings! By god and sonny Jesus we're counting on it!
What is beyond belief is the fact that Pelosi doesn't seem to realize that by law she can't "work" with these criminals. They weren't elected! There IS no legitimate POTUS, and cabinet! Who does Pelosi and here flotsam of Dumbocrats plan to work with? By extending any quarter to these people makes Pelosi and company complicit in the Bush Crimes. With this in mind, i have no doubt the republicans would throw some of their people to wolves in order to turn the impeachment process around on the Democrats for aiding and abetting known felons, and failure to prosecute.
It makes Pelosi a felon, and subject to impeachment herself, and somehow I don't think we've seen the worst republican behavior.
Mr. Bohne is a clockmaker and activist. He HATES the US Government, and without stretching the truth (reality) will do anything to dig up dirt on any of these bastards, as long as it's REAL dirt.
"the first man to raise his fists, is the first man to run out of ideas."
It is very awkward to attempt to impeach somebody for high crimes and misdemeanors that you voted for.
Q: Did you commit these crimes?
A: You ought to know -- you voted for them.
So the Republicans can't throw anybody to the wolves. The Democrats can't impeach because they're complicit.
Didn't you think there was anything even the least bit strange about the way that Gore not only conceded to an unelected fascist, but helped smooth the transition in a spirit of collegiality and bipartisanship?
And didn't it puzzle you four years later, after the way the Republicans had shown that they weren't the least bit interested in collegiality and bipartisanship, that Kerry repeated the same shameful performance?
The Democrats have been complicit from the git-go. It was Clinton and Dole who pushed through GATT. Show me the Democratic Senator who doesn't own, own stock in, or have a family member who owns or owns stock in a defense contractor. Which one doesn't accept campaign donations from defense contractors?
There are a few mavericks in the House, but Pelosi is said to be forming a new committee to find ways to deprive them of their hard-earned seniority. So if you were expecting John Conyers to head the Judiciary Committee, you may be in for a big surprise. You can expect the Democrats to show the same respect for the Congressional Black Caucus that Gore did in 2000, i.e., none whatsoever.
You can't frighten Nancy Pelosi -- Pelosi is quite confident of Dick Cheney's protection. They're on the same team, he just has a larger stake in the trillions in war-profiteering contracts. But now that the Democrats have a majority, they can expect, if not demand, a bigger cut.
If there were an impartial investigation of the crimes of the Bush administration, the Democrats would be found guilty of aiding and abetting, particularly the Democratic Senators. You have to be at least a millionaire to become a Senator, and didn't the Bible say that a camel could pass through the eye of a needle more easily than a rich man could get into heaven? The Democratic and Republican leadership are colleagues because they went to the same colleges, joined the same fraternities, made millions of dollars off the same business, energy, defense, and other corporate deals, live in the same neighborhoods, go to the same country clubs, and belong to the same organizations like the Trilateral Commission. They get along well because they have a similar worldview and they agree on some very important things like putting profits before people.
Ralph Nader said it best: the lesser evil is still evil. Pelosi is going to try to pretend to want to pass some humane legislation in the next two years, but either won't have the votes to pass it, or won't have the votes to override a Bush veto. And then we'll get another Democrat or Republican as president and nothing will change.
We have only a few slim hopes. One is that the dollar might crash because a lot of countries are switching to the Euro. Another is that the people propping up the stock market might react too slowly to a sag and it could avalanche. A third is that Hugo Chavez might succeed in building a strong enough global coalition that the U.S. might no longer be able to bully the U.N. and other world bodies. Another is that the housing bubble could explode. But the only way we'll withdraw from Iraq is the same way we withdrew from Viet Nam -- in shame and ignominy for going where we had no business going, doing what we had no business doing, and failing to force people to submit to a foreign invasion just because we want them to. The only difference is that our failure to adhere to the Geneva Conventions and the Conventions Against Torture have earned us the hatred of decent people everywhere, and the effects of depleted uranium will be much worse and longer lasting than the effects of Agent Orange were. Apart from that it's deja vu all over again.
--Mark
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Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments)
on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 at 3:49:39 AM
The point is that Pelosi, the Dumbocrats, Bush and his cartel clearly obviate the irrepairable nature of the social control paradigm of "government" if you want to call it that. I have no quarrel with the complicity of the Republicrats in this catastrophe. I believe the Bush People should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the "law" and the democrats that signed on to this excoriated and eventually dumped. They weren't duped, and they weren't mislead. They were lied to, but like the rest of us, they've got computers and such so it was incumbent on them school themselves. The problem is, this is such a colossal job i honestly don't think it can be done. Further Pelosi has decided to sidestep impeachment because "we don't get even." As if that were the reason for the proceedure. If some form of punitive action isn't taken, then this country is lost. The entire "government" is rotten to the core. I don't know how you change that. All of the things possible because of the wishy-washy nature of the Constitution allow for virtually anything.
thanks for writing,
tedbohne
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tedbohne (87 articles, 103 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 119 comments)
on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 at 7:49:15 AM
Yes, the full governmental operation would seem to be rotten to the core. Unfortunately, it's the one we've got to work with, and there are no simple or direct routes of change. One thing is fairly certain, however: the change has to be begun. If we sit apathetic or paralyzed, it is sure to be changed by collapse or calamity, but that will be no blessing for anyone. It will be just about like the entire country being overwhelmed by a giant Katrina.
One thing Mark overlooks, when he puts ALL Democratic legislators down, is the degree to which basic political instinct (or necessity, call it what you will) calls the turn. In its present operational condition, Congress is run by money, patronage and seniority, to a degree that defeats any would-be holdout. Most of those go-along votes that are now being draped around Democratic necks like albatrosses were votes of political expediency, made at the time by those who knew that a vote of conscience -(remember the situation as it was, back then?)- didn't stand the survival likelihood of a snowball in hell.
I think we need to give a little slack. In a crippled system, we're unfortunately left dependent on the political savvy that our still-slim majority has to work with. Impeachment, for only one example, requires a two-thirds majority in the Senate, which just about says that 15 Republicans now sitting there are going to have to feel pretty good about how any such thing is handled. So don't be too quick (as I admit that I, myself, have been) about damning Reid and Pelosi. Setting up the trial is only half the job that has to be done.
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Irvthom (7 articles, 2 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 83 comments)
on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 at 12:48:55 AM
didn't stand a chance because of political expediency?
Would you happen to remember a Democratic Representative named Barbara Lee? Lee was the ONLY member of Congress who voted against the war when it first came up for a vote.
That doesn't make the rest of Congress a bunch of pragmatic careerists. It makes them a bunch of amoral, unprincipled cowards.
Lee didn't look around to see what others were doing, or weigh the possible benefits of going along to get along. Lee just decided that the war was wrong and chose not to vote for it.
If not for rigged elections and the Democratic habit of conceding elections they've won to their fascist opponents in a spirit of collegiality and bipartisanship, which has never been reciprocated by the way, we'd have a lot more people like Barbara Lee in Congress.
Neither money, career, nor peer pressure is an excuse for war crimes and crimes against humanity. But just as Bush called the Constitution he swore to uphold and defend, "a goddamned piece of paper," and refused to adhere to the Kyoto Treaty, the Geneva Conventions, and the Convention Against Torture, I'm sure he has no adherence to the Nuremberg Principles either. Fascists never have. So it doesn't matter if they call themselves Republicans or Democrats, those who aid and abet the war profiteers are still fascists and the whole world knows it.
It is high time that we knew it too.
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Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments)
on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 at 2:02:16 AM
Apathetic?, paralyzed? what do you think has been the state of the American people for nearly seven years. It isn't the only government we have. It has failed. If your car quits in the middle of a snow storm are you going to be as complacent. Mass murder, grand theft, shifting the "judiciary" to the far right. I think there needs to be a hangin'. You, like most just don't seem to get it. the system has failed. You don't negotiate with criminals, you arrest them and try them. It is very clear you don't understand how deep this necrosis goes, nor how far back.
tedbohne
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tedbohne (87 articles, 103 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 119 comments)
on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 at 8:49:54 AM
Is this your excuse for sitting on your ass? I would beg to differ with you on your notion that,"this is all we have." We got plinnneee of other stuff. Takes balls to do it though.
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tedbohne (87 articles, 103 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 119 comments)
on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 at 12:23:45 PM
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