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September 9, 2007 at 16:41:57

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As Americans we have a particular mindset.   Our belief in our altruism would be tolerable were it not so dangerous, especially when White House occupants threaten the stability of the world.  The danger lies in that we  believe that no matter what the U.S. policy, be it coups, sabotage, or illegal wars, America is always in the right and it is the ‘other’ that is evil.   Our irrational support of the government’s implausible and unacceptable actions has always been without scrutiny or self-examination.  

 

In the latest fiasco, a US Federal court, ruled that Iran should pay $2.65bn to the families of the 241 marines killed by Hezbollah in Lebanon in 1983[i].  It is worthwhile making a simple parallel before delving into the policies and facts of the matter.

 

Iran’s support of Hezbollah is akin to U.S. support of Israel although Israel is supplied with an inordinate amount of military goods, including bunker-busters. Israel deliberately killed U.N. peacekeepers in last year’s 33-day war[ii].  Given that the U.S. deliberately stopped the cease-fire and supplied Israel not only with arms, but a carte blanche to kill at will, which country should be sued for the death of the peace keepers?  The U.S., Israel, or is the U.N. the ‘other’ evil?

 

But this article is not dealing with the atrocities of Israel and American terrorism, for there are far too many of them to recount, it was simply stated as an analogy to invalidate the law suit against Iran.  As to the facts….

 

Upon taking office, Ronald Regan decided to launch a ‘second Cold War’ in the Middle East.  He moved combat forces into the region and armed ‘allies’ while initiating a strategic cooperation agreement with Israel.  The assassination of Sadat made the U.S. jittery and it rewarded those Middle Eastern governments that joined the ‘Strategic Consensus”.   This displeased Israel as it enjoyed the status of being the predominant ally of the U.S.    The administration’s campaign against “international terrorism” provided ‘justification’ for Israeli strikes into Lebanon under the pretext of challenging terrorism.   The ‘Memorandum of Understanding’ signed by Weinberger and Ariel Sharon in Late November set the stage for a joint military collaboration between Israel and the U.S.[iii] 

 

Israel occupied Lebanon, but its invasion met with a wave of protests from within Israel.   June 25, 1982, Haaretz  editorial:  Professor Yehoshwar Porat openly challenged the rationale for the Israel’s attack on Lebanon.

it did not even result from the need to retaliate against Palestinian shellings of the Galilee, because there was no such shelling since and agreement [cease fire agreement between the Palestinians and the Israeli government].  So what was the reason?  I think the Israeli government’s {or more precisely, its two leaders’) decision resulted from that cease fire.”[iv]   

 

The papers printed many such protests.  Perhaps this is why the academia in this country is under attack from the current White House occupants.

 

Initially, on August 20, U.S. Marines landed in Beirut with a clearly defined mission - to supervise the evacuation of the PLO guerillas.   This was accomplished at the end of the first week of September.  There was no longer a need for a peacekeeping force.  ‘Mission accomplished’.  However, 19 days later, after the Israeli invasion and occupation of West Beirut, and the brutal Sabra – Sahtila massacres under the supervision of Ariel Sharon, a larger US force returned to Beirut – this was with a very different mission in mind.  Theirs was not only to secure the airport, but to help the new Gemayel regime ‘consolidate’ power .  

 

Per the Reagan strategy, the additional forces were showing a permanent US presence in the Middle East, more pertinent to the events,  some 100 field grade US Army and Special Forces officers were training “the most highly motivated” Lebanese brigades, that is, those with strong Phalangist militia components[v].   According to the ‘Britannica Concise Encyclopedia’, these were the same militias who under Sharon’s supervision massacred 800- several thousand women, children and elderly at Sabra and Sahtila.[vi]    ‘Peace-keeping’ had clearly taken on a new definition.

 

By September 1983, U.S. warships were shelling Syrian and Druze militia positions outside Beirut, and Marine ground forces were trading artillery and sniper fire with Shi’a [the Hezbollah are Shi’a] and Druze fighters[vii].    On October 23, 1983, two trucks hit a building housing US Marines killing most – ‘peace-keepers’

 

Iran’s implications in the incident may be that the Islamic regime had proven itself capable of challenging the world’s superpower with a simple religious ideology – Islam.  The Hezbollah had borrowed from the same ideology and resisted the American/Israeli occupation by looking towards Iran as a source of inspiration, but to hold Iran accountable is not only irresponsible, but outrageous.

 

There is never any justification for taking the life of another.  The US claims the Marines were simply peace keepers, and in an effort to sweep the dirt under  the rug, given its hostilities with Iran post the 1979 revolution, it has allowed the families to sue the government of Iran.   As expected, the U.S. judicial system has sided not with the law, but with politics, a slap in the face of the people of this county – for policies change, as do international dynamics, but violating our laws to suit the whims of administrations’ policies is tragic for the nation.

It is time for the American public to open their eyes to the abhorrent policies of their government and as a democratic society direct the actions of the policy makers.  Only then will we seize to cover the mistakes of our government by vindicating the ‘other’.

 

[iii] Lawson, Fred. MERIP, No128, The Deadly Connection; Reagan and the Middle East 9Nov. Dec. 1984) pp 27-34

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Soraya has lived and studied in Iran, UK, France, and has obtained her degree in International Relations from USC, Los Angeles.  She is an independent researcher, public speaker, radio commentator, political columnist, and peace activist. 

 

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Boycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.
Dan AlbaBoycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.

Iran and Hizballah: Ideal Scapegoats

Another nice article, Soraya. I read you at CASMII as well.

Back in late June, Michael Schwartz wrote a nice piece on the subject, entitled CIA Terror Bombings, Bob Gates, and The Rise of Hezbollah.

A few questions and facts have been unanswered and omitted by MSM and accusers within Western governments:

  • Where's the evidence that Iran or Hizballah did it (other than descriptions of "fiery sermons" by a radical Shiite cleric, coming from anti-Iranian and pro-Israel "intelligences sources")?
  • Others actually claimed responsibility for the bombing, but were ignored in favor of going after bigger fish, a.k.a., those with links to elements within Iran.
  • An organization named Hizballah (or "Hezbollah," etc.) didn't even exist at the time.
  • Another thing that gets swept under the rug is this: It was an attack on a military installation of a belligerent, foreign occupier; so, it was an act of war - not an act of terrorism - no matter who did it. Thus, if culpability is provable, then why wasn't a war on Hizballah or Iran declared back then?
  • The answer to all of the above:

    Hizballah was a politically convenient scapegoat - and continues to be to this day - because of its link to the revolutionary regime in Iran; yet the burden of proof still lies with the accusers, as there exists no incriminating evidence.

    But how nice it must be for the neocons and Likudniks to be able to invoke the '83 bombing when fraudulently linking Israel's interests with those of the United States, eh? It would make as much sense to accuse Israel of doing it; after all, over the years, who has benefitted more from such attacks on US targets than right-wing governments in Israel and their war-profiteering neocon allies in the United States?

    by Dan Alba (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 52 comments) on Sunday, September 9, 2007 at 6:36:04 PM
     


    I'm a 57 year old Australian Vietnam Veteran, currently living in Australia.Spent the last 30 years as a Locomotive engineer and Union official negotiating with various Federal and State Govt authorities in that capacity.Pet hate are bullies of any nature/nationality, life's goal is to destroy/ridicule/minimise damage done by such people.
    Eddy SchmidI'm a 57 year old Australian Vietnam Veteran, currently living in Australia.Spent the last 30 years as a Locomotive engineer and Union official negotiating with various Federal and State Govt authorities in that capacity.Pet hate are bullies of any nature/nationality, life's goal is to destroy/ridicule/minimise damage done by such people.

    Shameless Hypocrisy

    The Hypocrisy emanating from the U.S. never ceases to astound me.

    Just when I begin to feel they could'nt go any lower, they go right ahead and do exactly that, and then they wonder, "Why Do They Hate Us So"? DUH !

    A U.S. Federal judge feels empowered to make a judgement of International ramifications. What's going on here Folks ? What is this implying ?

    That the only law to abide by is U.S. law, and then only law that conforms to the Government in power of the day ?

    To hell with the U.N. and the International World Court all superfluos according to the U.S. looks like World Government has already arrived.

    Funny thing is, some time ago the U.S. itself found themselves in the dock at the World Court, Nicaragua had laid claims against them during the years of warfar and issurection fomented by the U.S.

    This court, (unlike the U.S. Courts)  was supposed to represent the WHOLE WORLD and INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE, the ruling came down that the U.S. must pay reparations to the Govt of Nicaragua for their darstardly evil deeds the commited in that country.

    Now the clincher, HAS THE U.S. PAID ONE CENT OF SAID FUNDS ?

    Not to my knowledge, and I believe some 8-10 years have now elapsed since the ruling.

    How's that for HYPOCRISY from the good old U.S.A., it's NEVER DO AS WE DO, it's always DO AS WE SAY.

    Of course the bottom line in all this, IF the U.S. wishes to persue such a bogus claim, would be if the Iranians submitted a claim against the U.S. for their intervention within Iranian affairs and the murder of their DEmocratically elected leader, then the illegal installation of the Shah and the terrible years following those events.

    I have a sneaking suspicion, such a claim would amount to a figure far beyond the U.S.'s imagination and rightly so too.

    And don't get me started on Vietnam either, the damage the U.S. caused there, and still causing untold misery and death to this very day, and what's their responce ? Tough luck, we were at war . Yet strangely enough, the Vietnamese never declared war against anyone, come to think of it, I don't recall the U.S. declaring war against the Vietnamese either at the time.

    Vietnam should, under this very same ruling, make application for reparations against the U.S. for all damage caused by them during those years.

    After all, you can't have it both ways now can you. What's good fer the goose is also good fer the gander, however in the parrallel universe of the U.S.A. such matters simply do not apply.

    by Eddy Schmid (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 197 comments) on Monday, September 10, 2007 at 5:34:58 AM
     


    I am an architect living and working in London,England.
    BahrameradI am an architect living and working in London,England.

    Shameless

    Whenever I read a woolly though out piece of writing in defence of the Murdering mullah Mafia's I try to imagine who the writer might be.

    In This case you have truly gave yourself up to be a SHAMELESS HUSSY by writing such a nonsense article in defence of the indefensible. The proof is that your No. one friends and supporters are CASMII , another apologist outfit for the hang men of Tehran and Ghom.

    And just one more thing...Hezbulah... were started in 1974 by Khomainie and his henchmen like Rafsanjani ( RASMAN JANI- OFFICIALLY RECOGNISED AS MURDERER) as a religious militia.

    You can not compare Hezbulah and their heinous deeds with that of legitimate countries like Lebanon, Israel or USA or even with illegitimate countries like The Islamic Republic of Idiots.... OOPS - They are a terrorist organisation set up to fight proxy wars on behalf of another terror group ( IRI ) .

    Your whole arguments falls flat when you start building your arguments on this false premise ... Go Back To School and learn something useful this time. You failed this essay as far as I am concern.

    http://bahrameradblg.blogspot.com/

    by Bahramerad (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Monday, September 10, 2007 at 10:00:36 AM
     


    Boycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.
    Dan AlbaBoycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.

    Those Pro-Bomb Iran, Pro-Shah 1½ Percenters

    For the character assassin with bad aim:

    You might have a leg to stand on if you made your arguments based on facts. As it is, you aren't disputing anything on a factual basis — only personal feelings.

    If you really want to overthrow the Iranian regime, drop bombs on Iranian civilians, and re-install a dictatorial Shah, then answer this: Are you in Iran right now, working on the plan, or are you just trying to help your fellow neocons in persuading Americans that we should continue to break constitutional and international law by committing further supreme aggression against another second-world nation posing no threat to the USA?

    Are you enlisted with MeK or other treasonous insurrection group, or are you just another Isreali poser (hasbaranik or other)? Either way, you're currently seen as a neocon propaganda agent and personal attacker.

    But come on back if you ever want to have a civil discussion based on the merits; you can start by attempting to properly refute Ms. Soraya's points. Then, I might consider giving you a second chance in your attempts to credibly cast Hizballah as a terrorist organization which committed the '83 bombing; sell another illegal intervention into Iran in order to install another dictatorial "constitutional monarchy"; and cast anti-war people as apologists for tyrants.

    by Dan Alba (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 52 comments) on Monday, September 10, 2007 at 9:42:59 PM
     


    I am an architect living and working in London,England.
    BahrameradI am an architect living and working in London,England.

    Shameless Hussy

    I assume that YOU are the Shameless Hussy as I was commenting on HER article.

    1 - My Arguments are based on FACTS. Hezbulah are a religious militia created in 1974 by Khomainie and his associates as STORM TROOPERS.

    2 - Over throwing the IRI does not equate to - Drooping Bombs on Iranian civilians- No matter how much Khamenai wants that to happen -

    3 - No body is talking about installing a dictatorial regime in Iran. - on the contrary, we want to destroy the existing DICTATORIAL REGIME -

    4 - i am trying to help thick heads like you to understand that Iran has declared WAR on USA for the last 28 years and has been killing your soldiers and civilians when ever the opportunity presents itself and that because of you spineless idiots they keep doing it to you and others. CAPICH...

    5 - I am not a member or supporter of MEK. I am their enemy. They are a cult just like the Mullah Mafia's in Ghom and Tehran.

    6 - No I am not an Israeli POSER. and I do not give a toss what you think of me. In fact neocons who have liberated 70 million people from the yoke of dictators and Taleban are a damn sight better than the cowers like you.

    7 - Installing the legitimate and legal system of a constitutional monarchy in Iran is up to the good people of Iran. and it has nothing to do with you or in that mater ME. when the time comes they will decide for themselves what kind of a system they want to be governed by. You do not have to worry about that.

    8_ The Shah, being a patriot did not kill his people - did not invite foreign forces to defend his Crown... When he heard the disgruntled voices of people - he left the country to its own devices. Would the hated hang men of ghom and Tehran do the same ... will they allow a free and a democratic election to take place in Iran and if the People ask them, will they leave the country to its good people. ... you tosser.

    by Bahramerad (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 4:47:01 AM
     


    Boycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.
    Dan AlbaBoycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.

    yawn... zzzzzzzzzz

    1 - My Arguments are based on FACTS. Hezbulah are a religious militia created in 1974 by Khomainie and his associates as STORM TROOPERS.


    Source? You have proven nothing. Just saying so doesn't make it so. Where's the proof that Hizballah did the '83 Marine barracks attack? Where's the proof that Iran was behind it?

    2 - Over throwing the IRI does not equate to - Drooping Bombs on Iranian civilians- No matter how much Khamenai wants that to happen -


    How silly of me. Of course not. Just like overthrowing a much weaker Saddam regime didn't require dropping ordnance and didn't lead to mass civilian casualties. You're so right. The only thing it equates to is violation of Supreme US Law (i.e., the Algiers Accord, the UN-Nürnberg principles, and the Constitution). That's all. It will be "clean, strategic strikes," wherein only a few hundred nuclear facility workers and Iranian government workers and another select few thousand civilians in the periphery of nuclear power plants and other "strategic targets of interest" will initially perish. And the ensuing fallout won't be all that bad or life-threatening - at least not for the hundreds of millions of human beings west of Iran. Hmm...

    3 - No body is talking about installing a dictatorial regime in Iran. - on the contrary, we want to destroy the existing DICTATORIAL REGIME -


    Under what authority? No-one but Iranian citizens have the authority to affect political change in their own country; so, you're either an Iranian citizen inside Iran, an Iranian expatriate/conspirator in international crime, or just a neocon propagandist supporting further violent criminality. Which is it?

    4 - i am trying to help thick heads like you to understand that Iran has declared WAR on USA for the last 28 years and has been killing your soldiers and civilians when ever the opportunity presents itself and that because of you spineless idiots they keep doing it to you and others. CAPICH...


    Nope. Iranians haven't been killing "my" soldiers; they have been fending off violent invasions sponsored by "my" government and the fringe, manical supporters of the Shah ever since the early '50s. And there will be no "capich" until you've substantiated your history-defying, reality-inverting, neocon talking points.

    5 - I am not a member or supporter of MEK. I am their enemy. They are a cult just like the Mullah Mafia's in Ghom and Tehran.


    That' odd. Your favorite writers and "think-tanks" support them. Somewhere inside your propaganda machine, your wires are getting crossed.

    6 - No I am not an Israeli POSER. and I do not give a toss what you think of me. In fact neocons who have liberated 70 million people from the yoke of dictators and Taleban are a damn sight better than the cowers like you.


    Wow. You really are a 1½ percenter lol. You equate a hotbed of perpetual civil war, hundreds of thousand innocent deaths, and millions displaced and homeless as being "liberated". Good one! It now makes sense that you prefer an installed "monarchy" over a leader chosen by the people. After all, that's what the neocons want: perpetual chaos and puppet governments to silence dissent and keep the war-profiteering in motion.

    7 - Installing the legitimate and legal system of a constitutional monarchy in Iran is up to the good people of Iran. and it has nothing to do with you or in that mater ME. when the time comes they will decide for themselves what kind of a system they want to be governed by. You do not have to worry about that.


    Then your purpose on this board has been confirmed: You are here to bad-mouth those who disagree with your politics. And so far, that is all you have the power to do. Otherwise, you're quite impotent - especially since you refer to "the good people of Iran" while not affording them the right to elect the leader to be "installed". Nice!

    8_ The Shah, being a patriot did not kill his people - did not invite foreign forces to defend his Crown...


    Of course not. He just used his SAVAK to do all that. He didn't invite them? LMAO! He certainly didn't object to being part of the illegal conspiracy to violently overthrow Mossadegh (the democratically-elected leader), now did he? He didn't fight against the efforts to silence popular dissent and Iranian nationalism, did he? Oops!

    When he heard the disgruntled voices of people - he left the country to its own devices. Would the hated hang men of ghom and Tehran do the same ... will they allow a free and a democratic election to take place in Iran and if the People ask them, will they leave the country to its good people. ... you tosser.


    That's funny. You talk as if the Shah was elected in the first place. You assume that he was a man of the people, by the people, for the people. You assume people don't know that he would have never been in power as the Shah unless the CIA and others staged an illegal propaganda campaign and coup to do so. He left town because most Iranians were fed up with his treasonous ways and his tyranny and his silencing of popular dissent. I bet you're gonna tell us next that it was right to give control of the oil fields back to the foreigners. What a hoot.

    The floor is still yours in case you want to bring some facts to back up your emotionally-charged neocon propaganda.

    See those hyperlinked footnotes in the author's essay? See that hyprlinked word in my response? Those link to these things we call "sources," and it's upon those sources of fact that we usually base our arguments.

    So come on back when you decide you want to stop peddling PNAC, AEI, and Likud fantasy and start backing your arguments with sourced, authoritative evidence. Either way, you're on the wrong side of the law and the wrong side of the people of Iran, because a vast and indomitable majority of them do not want another foreign intervention and overthrow in their country.

    by Dan Alba (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 52 comments) on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at 7:26:27 PM
     


    I am an architect living and working in London,England.
    BahrameradI am an architect living and working in London,England.

    Shamless coward

    I am a Proud Persian advocating a popular uprising to depose the hangmen and the terrorist who are ruling Iran with fear, intimidation and Iron fist. You on the other hand are a slimy cowered selling your country down the sower with your ignorant idea's. 
    1 - If you want to know who or what Hezbulah are, read the transcripts of the court condemning them and the Islamic Republic of Idiots.
    2-The clever Iranians have shown that if they want to change their political system (1906, 1923, 1943,1953, 1978) whether it is to restore their shah, or change them, they can do it without BOMBS - and they can get ride of the mullah's without BOMBS.
    3 - If the IRI interferes and sends armaments to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill the Americans, The Nato Forces and The United Nation Mandated soldiers-Then the American, The British, The Canadians, The Iraqi's, The Afghanis and so on have every right to BOMB the Hell out of Ghom and all those collaborators and supporters.  It is called TIT FOR TAT.
    4 - Do you know what GODS or the KARBELLAH Brigade means? Do you Know the purpose and the agenda of the Palestine Day Jamboree that has taken place every year in Iran since 1979. Are you aware of the IRI's constitution which states their primary reason for existence is the exporting of their revolution abroad? Are you aware of the hundreds of Pasdarans camps where terrorist from four corner of the world are being trained to kill and mime innocent people in the name of fighting the GEAR SATAN - US of A. Are you blind to the more than 2 million Iranians incarcerated in many known and unknown prisons in Iran.
    5 - It is the terrorist such as Hezbulah, Al Queda and Taleban who have killed thousand of innocent Iraqi's, Afghani and others with their indiscriminate bombings and beheadings. SMART Bombs and the brave US soldiers only kill and take out these murderers. GO ASK THE IRAQI PRIM  MINISTER AL-MALEKI
    6 - I DO DEFEND THE RIGHT OF THE GOOD PEOPLE OF IRAN TO FREELY INSTALL ANY Democratically ELECTED SYSTEM AFTER THE MENACE OF THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IDIOTS HAS BEEN OVERTHROWN. (do you have any problem with that or are you getting paid by them to spread lies and peddle their lies)?
    7 - For your information, Reza Shah was elected by the people of Iran to become the King in 1923 and when he was forced by the allies the abdicate because he would not agree for foreign troops who had occupied his country to have a free hand, his 18 year old son, Mohammed Reza Shah was crowned. He was the man of The People. The history has recorded all the work that he did and the achievements that he bestowed upon the Iranian Nation despite all the interference and propaganda against him. If he had one SAVAK your country has 49 deferent SAVAKS. (and -Gountanamo) which makes it 50 - one for every state of the union.
    8 - I wont even bother to answer your questions about the IRANIAN OIL and how The shah used it to enhance the progress of Iran and how the mullah's have use it to export death and destruction throughout the world. I will just mention that if it was not for the Iranian oil in the world market — you would have to pay more that 15 dollars a gallon for your Petrol to put into you gas gazzlers up and down your damn highways.

    by Bahramerad (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 4:59:26 AM
     


    Boycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.
    Dan AlbaBoycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.

    So, you ARE a neocon propagandist.

    Thanks for clearing that up for me with your signature neocon-Likudnik rhetoric and character assassination.

    The floor is still yours if you want to substantiate any of your hateful, slanderous rhetoric with sources to the fantastic allegations you peddle as facts.

    Come on back if you ever find a leg to stand on...

    by Dan Alba (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 52 comments) on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 5:21:48 AM
     


    I am an architect living and working in London,England.
    BahrameradI am an architect living and working in London,England.

    Shameless idiots

    see ; http://bahrameradblg.blogspot.com/

    by Bahramerad (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 7:53:04 AM
     


    I am an architect living and working in London,England.
    BahrameradI am an architect living and working in London,England.

    Shameless lier

    And this : Iran Proxy War Against America 

    In www.claremont.org

    by Bahramerad (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 9:00:34 AM
     


    Boycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.
    Dan AlbaBoycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.

    Claremont Institute = Goebbels Inc.

    Shameless lier

    And this : Iran Proxy War Against America 

    In www.claremont.org


    Thanks for the link to the "Shameless lier" website (although it's actually "liar," I'm sure the liars won't take offense). Well, you're not exactly right this time, but you're close. They aren't exactly shameless liars; they're just shameless, treasonous pseudo-scholars who make up fantastic theories using spurious sources or none at all (you know — like you do). It's a typical technique among 1½ percenters; it's called fraudulent war propaganda. But nice try anyway.

    by Dan Alba (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 52 comments) on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 5:49:35 PM
     


    Boycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.
    Dan AlbaBoycott The Associated Press, Thomson Reuters, UPI, the Washington Times, Caterpillar, and the state of Israel - just for starters. Prosecute the neocon-Likudniks, the Federal Reserve board of governers, and their ideologists in think tanks and corporate media for treason and Nüremberg crimes.

    On the Level

    I'm probably being a bit harsh here. Look — no offense. We have differing views and convictions; mine stem from the legal and moral obligations of my government's policies toward its own people and toward other countries. From there, I gauge my vote on each contingency. This is where I stand on the US-Iran-Israel thing: The US Constitution, international laws and treaties, and the American and Iranian People — coupled with what the UN-IAEA and the CIA show of Iran's nuclear and military capabilities and intentions — tell me that US intervention in Iran is prohibited all across the board and hands-down. If we disagree sharply, then fair enough; I'll happily leave it at that. (But a monarchy? Seriously though. Why do you prefer that particular style of government for Iran? I'm just really curious.)

    by Dan Alba (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 9 diaries, 52 comments) on Thursday, September 13, 2007 at 8:22:58 AM
     

     

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