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December 21, 2007 at 10:37:55

Would Global Cooling Have Chilled Our Ancestors Had They Been Around?

by Sandy Sand     Page 1 of 2 page(s)

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The global stage has been set.  Agreements of sorts were reached in Bali at the recent global warming conference, and now all the delegates can have their ducks in a row -- if they haven't all gone extinct from air and water pollution and oil spills -- for next month's meeting hosted by George Bush (what a hoot) in Hawaii.

It's happened before.  It will happen again.  Over the eons the Earth has swung from broiling to freezing, recycling itself again and again.

Eons ago, before the last Ice Age, the frigid Arctic we know today for its pristine white mantle and exotic animals, was a lush tropical paradise and home to animals long gone extinct.

If we could transport ourselves back to that time, would we be fighting just as hard to keep the Earth from cooling?  You're damn right we would.

A tropical pole would be what we knew and loved.  The thought of our polar tropical paradise freezing over would chill our senses, and make us rethink what we might be doing to hasten it.

As much as we love the magnificent grandeur of vast glacial vistas in the Arctic, with seals frolicking in the icy waters and polar bear cubs romping in the snow, maybe it's time to look at natural changes in a new light.
 
These swings weren't exactly news to me when I saw an excellent program on Earth's changing climates on one of the Discovery channels, but for some reason it got me to thinking about a few what ifs.

I'm as much against global warming as anyone.  I don't want to see millions of people displaced because the land upon which they live is reclaimed by rising seas.

Disrupting the balance of nature in not good for our health, but it's not necessarily bad for the planet's health.  In the end, the Earth aways recovers and replenishes itself. 

Comets and meteors have struck the Earth changing the face of the landscape, extinguishing life and bringing forth new life.  It's been noted by scientists who study such things, that at least six times in Earth's history super volcanos have erupted, causing global cooling for years and eradicating uncountable species. 

Fluctuations in Earth's orbit around the sun and periodic changes to the tilt of Earth's axis have done the same thing.  Changes in the orbit take us farther from the sun's warmth, and variations in the tilt change the angle at which the sun's rays strike the Earth.

We're used to our planet being the way it is, and most of us don't want
to see it change in ways we consider detrimental to our health and the health of plants and animals.

But what if...a really big if...we could transport ourselves back to the  time in Earth's history when the Arctic was a lush tropical paradise?  That would be the Earth we'd know and loved.

What if there were scientists who were saying the we human beings were doing things to the environment the were causing global cooling, and someday, sooner than we  think, the tropics of the Arctic will turn into vast expanses of snow and ice, changing that landscape for eons?

If we had been able to coexist with the now extinct animals that roamed the tropical Arctic, would we mourn their possible loss to freezing temperatures.  After all, they weren't exactly cute, cuddly looking polar bear cubs.  Of course, the cubs only look cuddly; they're really not.

Perhaps it's time to take a fresh look at the inevitable.  We've learned
to deal with earthquakes, volcanoes and various types of storms, none of which we can alter or avoid; we can only prepare for them.

It's also time to take a look at some of the things we're doing in the name of preventing global warming, most of which are as harmful as what we're already doing.

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Sandy Sand began her writing career while raising three children and doing public relations work for Women's American ORT (Organization for Rehabilitation through Training). That led to a job as a reporter for the San Fernando Valley Chronicle, a weekly publication in Canoga Park, California. In conjunction with the Chronicle, she broadcast a tri-weekly, ten minuted newscast for KGOE AM. Following the closure of the Chronicle, Sand became the editor of the Tolucan Times and Canyon Crier newspapers in Burbank. She is currently a guest columnist for the Los Angeles Daily News and contributor to ronkayela.com

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Professor Emeritus Peter BagnoloProfessor Bagnolo is a Renaissance man: Cultural Anthropologist, Architectural designer, painter, writer, novelist, theologian. As a child prodigy, abed with polio for almost two years, with an off the charts IQ, reading at the graduate level by 5th grade, offered an opportunity to skip three grades at age 8.Later He was a recipient of an Art Institute scholarship at age 11, a Ford Foundation Fellowship in Anthropology and in Painting and a merit scholarship in art, and was appointed a Graduate ...

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Gee

Gee Maybe the Neo-cons finally got something right. In their fascist document, The New World Order, where American bombs the hell out of everyone and steals all the oil, and then Depopulates America, Katrina was a convenient beginning for their plan. Now if the ice caps melt, millions will drown, maybe all of us, (except you and I) which would be good news for the rest of the animal/fish/bird kingdom, bad news for the virus/retrovirus/bacterial kingdom and the oil the Neo-cons have stolen will be useless to them, because they will all have been shark-bait!

Jeepers maybe this is not such a bad idea, this global warming. We could all get a nice even tan before we sink or get eaten by sharks or hungry, roaming bears.

I am beginning to like it already. 

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 94 diaries, 1185 comments) on Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:57:51 PM
 


56 years on this jumpin' green sphere. Musician. Own and operate a music store to help kids find a possible life long friend. I believe in the soul and the search. Happily married w/ 2 boys. Published songwriter. play bass, piano and gut string guitar. there are no solutions..only alternatives. Ask questions. Listen. Be fair and don't expect. Baseball is a mirror. Don't ask....unless you have time and a sense of humor. Peace is never easy, but worth it. Always.
mikel paul56 years on this jumpin' green sphere. Musician. Own and operate a music store to help kids find a possible life long friend. I believe in the soul and the search. Happily married w/ 2 boys. Published songwriter. play bass, piano and gut string guitar. there are no solutions..only alternatives. Ask questions. Listen. Be fair and don't expect. Baseball is a mirror. Don't ask....unless you have time and a sense of humor. Peace is never easy, but worth it. Always.

Good god. common sense is alive...whoudathunkit

     Thanx Sandy. As I applaud those of us with real concerns about the harmful things we've done to and do to this most wonderful blue and green sphere, I am glad to remind myself that Momma Nature has repeatedly reminded us again and again how 'she' is the steadfast one.

     We are so not paying attention. Not because we can do nothing. Quite the contrary. We can do lots to help stem the harmful things we knowingly allow ourselves to do to Momma. Our concerns are well intentioned. But as with most good well intentioned 'human' causes which end up being turned into another forum or method to gobble up more wealth stealing taxes and 'in her name' spread more disinfo into the global corporate warming game, we miss the point that Momma is, has been and always will be Momma.

     We do need to take care of our home. Do not pollute our streams, do not dump toxins into the very soil from which sustenance arrives, do not blow nano particles by the gadzillions into our air not to mention thousands of other nefarious stupid things we do. We can do THAT. Momma would like that.

     Whatever the IPCC says and what science can do to help us is worthy of concerned thought and much honest consideration. But alas, it is not the gospel. Not even close. Momma will listen. She always has. But not to the IPCC. They are not even a fly on her drape. 

     Momma moves on, watching us, smiling in only the way that Mommas do, at our 'we can control the world' attitude, all the while showing us how she is in charge, big cheese, head honcho. No term limits. Just Momma.

     Her lessons she keeps repeating. Until we learn them. Then, she gives us another lesson to learn. Momma keeps teaching.

     Long after we have gone....

     peace

by mikel paul (2 articles, 1 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 280 comments) on Friday, December 21, 2007 at 2:36:08 PM
 


Harpist, unemployed blue collar worker, and Bush basher living deep in the heart of Texas.
PappyHarpist, unemployed blue collar worker, and Bush basher living deep in the heart of Texas.

The big chill...

History is with you on this. This planet has been through the ringer backwards since it was condensed from stardust. It was inhospitable to life longer than it has supported it. It went from a molten ball of iron to a ball of liquid iron surrounded by rocks. It's mass, and some cool chemistry brought water to seventy-five percent of its surface. It just happens to hang out in the "Goldilocks" area of our solar system; close enough to the sun have water in all three states, and far enough away to avoid some of the worst that the sun sends our way when it has a bad hair day.

While it is clear that man's pollution is having a detrimental effect on the planet's atmosphere, ultimately, it is we (and probably lots of other species) who will ultimately pay the price for our greed and stupidity. The earth will continue to spin long after we have killed ourselves off, and everything else we can in the process.

Perhaps then, a real evolution will occur, and the next batch of intelligent critters will rise, and hopefully without the vestiges of reptilian brains. They say that squid and octopi are pretty smart. They haven't been saddled with the reptilian brain...they evolved down a different path from reptiles.

Something that I have always wondered about was the amount of materials we move around the planet and how that unbalances it. We have cities where there is more mass than there was before it was developed. Whenever you move mass around on a spinning object, it affects the balance. A mere two miles straight ahead of me is the City of Dallas. It is a big city with LOTS of skyscrapers. There are millions of tons of steel, concrete, granite, and other massive objects concentrated in about five square miles. A mere hundred years ago, none of those objects were there. So, that has to have unbalanced the planet.

Add to that all that stuff had to come from somewhere. So, not only have we made parts of the planet heavier, we have made other places lighter. In effect, we are adversely affecting the spin of the planet by building.

Maybe it's not global warming that's the problem...maybe it's global imbalance. We will never know.

Or maybe, our mother planet is just moving as she would have had we not evolved at all.

"And whether or not it is clear to you, the universe is unfolding as it should."

Blessed be!
Pappy

by Pappy (61 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 863 comments) on Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 2:40:09 AM
 

 

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