Bay of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor warning, ...911.  Information passes exponentially faster today but it will still be years before the truth comes to light.  But the part that troubles me the most is...What happens when it does?  Now that we know the bay of tonkin was the purest of bullshit on which we slipped into a deadly and dispised conflict that we are still trying to scrape off our shoes, who has answered for this sin?  No one.  What would happen if we inequivacably found out that (the least damning theory) the Bush administration had prior knowledge to 911 and allowed it to happen?  Would the media report it?  Would congress open investigations?  Would supeanas blanket Washington DC?  Would anyone be prosecuted?  Impeached?  Hanged for treason?  The most horrifing aspect of 911 true movement is not whether or not it's true, it's that it's true and we just don't care....

by erik mouse (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 106 comments) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 10:39:48 AM

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Court Cases in the US District Court,
Southern District of New York,
with Attorney Jerry Leaphart:

** Dr Judy Wood, suing on behalf of the United States of America and demanding a Trial by Jury, has evidence that Directed Energy Weapons were a causal factor in the destruction of the World Trade Center:

http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.html

Docket No. 1:07-cv-03314-GBD
Title: Dr. Judy Wood ex rel. USA vs. Applied Research Associates, Inc. et al.
Venue: United States District Court, Southern District of New York
Judge: George B. Daniels

** Dr Morgan Reynolds, suing on behalf of the United States of America and demanding a Trial by Jury, has evidence that the Media broadcasted cartoons of an airplane hitting the South Tower:

http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=federal_case

Docket No. 1:07-cv-04612-GBD
Title: Dr. Morgan Reynolds ex rel. USA vs. Science Applications International Corp. et al
Venue: United States District Court, Southern District of New York
Judge: George B. Daniels

by CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 465 comments [18 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Sunday, May 18, 2008 at 8:46:50 PM

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The 9/11 attacks, the 9/11 cover up, and the 9/11 "truth movement" were orchestrated by people associated with directed energy weapons and the media:

9/11 Directed Energy Weapon / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline

Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths

by CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 465 comments [18 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, May 19, 2008 at 6:32:58 PM

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A new groundbreaking paper by former Clemson University Professor of Mechanical Engineering, Dr Judy Wood, on weather-related disasters has been published on her personal website: 9/11 Weather Anomalies and Field Effects

The paper details Hurricane Erin, which was east of NYC on 9/11.

A press release regarding this paper has been published as well:

Click here

by CB Brooklyn (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 465 comments [18 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Monday, May 19, 2008 at 7:09:59 PM

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that before this next election there is another 'false-flag" attack. I see no reason for there not to be one and every reason for it.

To start there is no way in hell that these cretins will simply hand-over power to anyone that will even remotely threaten them. And before voices rise that could expose them they will murder many more of us to keep from being exposed. And there is no better way to cower masses than to make them fearful, and what better way to make them such than to have another 3,000, 10,000, or 100,000 of us die from some phantom terrorists?

I give it a 60/40 shot that this election even happens. I give it 99% chance that we'll be attacked before then and a 100% shot that if we are and elections are held, to keep an illusion of democracy alive, that McInsane will become our next POTUS, perhaps with jeb as VP.

I see no reason for this scenario to play out given all the outrageous crimes they've already gotten away with.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 10:47:14 AM

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"I'll bet good money that before this next election there is another 'false-flag' attack. I see no reason for there not to be one and every reason for it."

I'll accept that bet, if you're interested. A $100 USD wager seems worthwhile to me with loser contributing to OpEdNews.com and Rob verifying receipt of the donation. We would need to work out an agreeable definition of "false-flag" attack and settle upon a due date for the "rapture" to occur. Please let me know your thoughts on this because I'm serious!

However, your somewhat childish remark, "I see no reason for there not to be one...," makes me wonder at the logic you employ in your life. I see no reason why murder should happen, but it does. I see no reason why rape should happen, but it does. I see no reason why hunger should exist, but it does.

These are parts of the human condition and cannot be eliminated. Therefore, to use this type of statement in any thought process is irrelevant, misdirecting, and somewhat like a child's response to why he whacked his sister – "because".

"To start there is no way in hell that these cretins will simply hand-over power to anyone that will even remotely threaten them."

Mr M, I will be the first person on January 20, 2008, immediately following the administration of the presidential oath of office to the president-elect to say to you, "Ha, I told you so!" The Bush administration will leave Washington with grace and dignity on or before that day. That's a promise.

"And there is no better way to cower masses than to make them fearful, and what better way to make them such than to have another 3,000, 10,000, or 100,000 of us die from some phantom terrorists?"

And... (just to name a few) was the US government behind the US embassy bombings in east Africa (1998), Bali bombing (2002), Moscow kidnapping (2002), Madrid bombing (2004), Beslan School kidnapping (2004), and London bombing (2005) - click here ? If not the US, then were these attacks commited by other governments to keep other people's fearful?  Using your assessment of the attacks of 9/11, these other events should also be construed as false-flag attacks. The fact that all of these recent events are actually attributed to militant Islam is conveniently forgotten by you and others. Islam, to you, is the victim here not the perpertrator.

Okay, if that works for you, embrace that suck.

But I'll point out that YOUR fear of the Bush administration has removed the more real fear of militant Islam. I know it's difficult for you to grasp such a difference in fears (potential vs. actual) because of your closeness to one of them (President Bush) compared to the remoteness of the other (militant Islam).

However, militant Islam did brush you and all Americans directly on 9/11. This was militant Islam; this was real; and this was on American soil. Mr M, you may not think that the American soil distinction is important, but there's hundreds of Americans who would disagree with you.

"I give it a 60/40 shot that this election even happens. I give it 99% chance that we'll be attacked before then and a 100% shot that if we are and elections are held, to keep an illusion of democracy alive, that McInsane will become our next POTUS, perhaps with jeb as VP."

I'll include in that wager above the 100% likelihood that presidential election WILL occur. The 99% chance of attack – like another 9/11 – before the presidential election is HIGHLY unlikely. I'd give it AT MOST a 10% probability of actually being completed successfully.

"I see no reason for this scenario to play out given all the outrageous crimes they've already gotten away with."

There you go again with that silliness of "I see no reason..." You should work on that one, mate.

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2103 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 9:27:27 AM

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Tom, you are calculated, logical, concise, and eloquent.  And yet, so foolish.  "The Bush administration will leave Washington with grace and dignity" -that one made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.  You obviously enjoy 'debating' the 'libs' on this and no doubt countless other progressive sites.  As I generally don't believe or engage in fighting on the internet, this particular post of yours has a very appealing idea.  I would not take that bet Mr. M referred to as I think it would be unethical to bet on human suffering.  But the idea of a bet with the looser contributing to Op-ed is a good one. 

by erik mouse (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 106 comments) on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 10:02:39 AM

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"I would not take that bet Mr. M referred to as I think it would be unethical to bet on human suffering."

Mr M was the person who said (1) he would bet good money on human suffering (2) in the form of a false flag attack (3) with a 99% probability of occuring before November 4, 2008.  I'd be remiss if I didn't take Mr M up on this offer, given the unrealistic odds.

But, I did not propose the bet; I merely raised the ante in what may have been only a "dramatic gesture" by Mr M. Regardless, my side of the wager is based upon the fact that there will be NO human suffering, whereas Mr M's side contends the rise of the Fourth Reich AND its associated human suffering.

And regarding the human suffering issue, is it unethical to bet on organized sport events (e.g., boxing, car racing, or football) when there's human suffering involved within these fields? I'm suspecting that there's a PC program associated with this human suffering perspective and not much by way of ethics.

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2103 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 12:08:42 PM

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Your arrogant, rude reply had many fallacies.    I couldn't stand to read more than half of it, and I'll just mention one:   just because 911 is thought to have been a "false flag attack," doesn't mean that every other (and much more minor) terrorist attack is similarly "false flag."   I'd appreciate it if you'd mind your manners.    

by Lover of Truth (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 48 comments) on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 12:52:08 AM

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Whatever are you talking about here, Lover of Truth?

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2103 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 8:31:31 AM

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Good points, well thought out.  I'll add one more possibility.   Assuming there is an election, I'll give 60-40 odds that the Right wing henchmen hatch an assassination of Barack Obama, perhaps combined with the faux terrorist attack, for maximum efficiency and dread mongering.

I don't see why they wouldn't assassinate Obama.  He is perceived by many to represent a movement.   There's nothing the old-money Right fears more than these kind of popular movements.  Observe how they responded to Jack Kennedy,  Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King. "Rabble rousers" who would inflame the middle and lower classes must be dealt with severely.   Old Money's very survival demands it.  Wouldn't want the peasants to storm the Bastille for God's sake.  To them, though unpleasant, these assassinations are morally justified in their minds.   They probably say to themselves, "It's either him or me, and I choose him."  Thus, "self defense."

Though they are a couple of generations older, the techniques and the will persist and probably will have improved.  

Note:  the prospects of these types of events actually happening makes me want to puke.  I deplore those that commit these crimes against humanity.  I am in no way promoting them, and I abhor these types of atrocities.  

by Lover of Truth (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 48 comments) on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 12:42:12 AM

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...it wouldn't surprise me in the least if 9/11 was a "false flag" operation perpetrated by our own government, or at least allowed to happen by our own government. This is because the U.S. government has to keep the ponzi scheme that is our monetary system going at all costs.

by Dooglio (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 30 comments) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 10:49:27 AM

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brother Kall. Thy tin-foil hat shall be of hammered gold. Now You must store food,buy ammo and construct a bullet-proof armored vehicle from Your VW. Be sure to get the run-flat tires and use kevlar rather than iron plate for weight reduction. Technical assistance is available at 50 pounds of rice per hour, and none of that brown up-your-healthing stuff. Uncle Bens is accepted.

by john riggs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 463 comments [24 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 10:53:31 AM

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Thanks for the comedy relief!   

by Lover of Truth (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 48 comments) on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 1:10:40 AM

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Thanks for the comedy relief!   

by Lover of Truth (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 48 comments) on Friday, May 16, 2008 at 1:11:19 AM

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We don't need another 9/11.  This administration has used the original 9/11 to have legislation passed, signing statements and executive orders to be unchallenged that allows this administration to declare martial law under the guise of an economic crisis.  I keep begging people to not take my word for this but to simply google Bush's executive orders and read them word for word.  What he has done with these is horrifying .

I doubt very much that there will be a change in power.  Either there will be another 9/11, and/or martial law will be declared under one of the many pretexts he has defined in his executive orders.  Do I hope I am wrong?  Absolutely, I do.

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by Shirley Bianchi (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 97 comments) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 11:02:37 AM

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I am NOT well schooled in all the minute details of the legal profession - HOWEVER, I DO know that there IS a fine latin descriptive legal term which applies to the behaviors of guilty parties after-the-fact. Guilty people exhibit specific patterns of behaviors.

AND that even a casual observer of the words and behavior(s) the Bushites and neocons since 9/11 exhibit every last symptom down to the finest detail of being totally complicite and quite definitely GUILTY of staging and sponsoring a false flag attack to advance their own agenda.

Some other OEN contributor(s) who does have greater knowledge about the law can probably explain the fine points of this particular legal perspective - I think it should be applied and we should move forward in ALL our dealings with these criminals keeping in mind that we are dealing with a gang of the most selfish, bloodthirsty, psychopaths alive on the planet today. They attacked and murdered, in cold blood, thousands of their neighbors and fellow citizens and they did it all for personal gain. 

The truth needs NO extra props to hold it up. It rings true and clear as a bell. Only a lie requires so much shuffling, shucking, jiving and constant piling on of more and more BS to maintain its existence.

The truth WILL be exposed.

History bats last!  

by mrk * (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 311 comments [12 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 11:05:03 AM

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Personally, I don't think it matters a damn bit what We the People think or what we 'know'.  Those in power are going to do what the are going to do and unless and until we collectively get in the street that will continue.  And of course, the chances of a majority of Americans doing anything much is somewhere between slim and none.  That's collectively who we are, no real sense in moaning about it. 

Veteran '66-68

by Roger (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 465 comments [22 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 11:22:04 AM

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But take our TV's away and then you might have a riot! 

It's sad to have the public in such a nonresponsive state when real dangers are on the rise.  It reminds me of the frog-in-boiling-water metaphor.

by Bob Jones (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 2:54:46 PM

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Rather than slowly boiling we were thrown into boiling water September 11, 2001.

And ever since, every time anyone tried to draw attention to the fact that bush&co has manipulated truth, using Bernays teachings and tactics to make Orwell's visions come to pass, these cretins have placed their greedy, oil and blood stained hands on anyone or thing that would dare expose their heinous crimes and shoved it under until they were sure it was dead.

The villains here really have no match other than in Sci-Fi stories. They are the worse one can even dredge-up from the sickest and most imaginative ever portrayed by likes of Lucas's, Darth Vader or Morgoth was to Earth in Lord of the Rings. All that is missing are "special effects".

Or was that what 9/11 was all about?

But these sick-f#*ks are worse - much worse, they're real and they do things that could never be portrayed in a movie for childrens eyes, nor for any eyes but the most hardened.

Frogs to them though we may be - but not boiled - I'd say Deep-Fried.

by Mr M (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 66 diaries, 2845 comments [654 recommended, 27 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 4:48:13 PM

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I do not make this statment to romantisize the 911 truth movement or increase its sometimes obvious sense of self importance.  I am rather speaking from personal experience.  As I have done with many subjects, I try to explain 911 to freinds and family and often find their responses to be confrantational and sometimes bordering on violent.  Thanks to the reverend Wright story I now have a political litmus test I can employ before hitting them with tales of wtc7 and put options.  It goes something like this - ' One of the most contraversial statements made by Wright was that by our position on the israeli / palastinian conflict we brought 911 on ourselves.  But if you listen to the Bin Laden "confessional" tape he says 911 was done as revenge for our position in the israeli / palastinian conflict, so in effect he was telling the truth' - their reaction is usually a good indicator for their openmindedness towards 911 lore.  What I find is that people in general will much rather live in the black and white simplified world view the MSM give them than to think and draw their own conclusions.  Worse yet, they often would rather not think at all.  And any statements that force them to do so are considered threats.  As I stated above, we just don't care.  Like santa clause and the easter bunny, the myth gives us the warm and fuzzy feeling we crave.  And even as some people may 'know' the truth we dare not spoil it for others.

by erik mouse (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 106 comments) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 12:00:14 PM

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for this article, and for OpEdNews.com in general- I've donated but i have no connection to opednews.com other than posting here- please donate if you think this site is as worthy as your cable TV and monthly coffee bill

by Better World Order (4 articles, 568 quicklinks, 39 diaries, 1111 comments [56 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 12:35:24 PM

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"One of the oft cited premises of the 9/11 Truth movement is that the attack on the towers was the pearl harbor-like event that the neocons anticipated would be necessary to move the US to embrace the aggressive militaristic tactics manifested in Iraq."

When circumstantial facts line up far too perfectly - there usually is a connection - the more we collectively learn about 911 the more we realize that there is a cover up of massive proportion.  The 911 attacks propelled us because of our collective fear, blindly into war.  

But as many have said, there is a collective anger and denial about the attack on 911.  For one, everyone "saw" the attack.  The cover-up was begun immediately and parroted repeatedly uncritically by the main steam press.

Then, our "objective" journalists put on their flag pins, hired military commanders and stepped in line behind the President while the course of our nation dramatically changed.

We became a nation above the law.  We were lied to, and have held no one accountable.  We became a nation of torturers and we voluntarily gave up our civil liberties.

I keep thinking there will be weekend rallies all across the country, at every major park and intersection.  But no.

Then I think, well, people are busy.  But I see the soccer fields, foot ball fields, golf courses etc, packed with people.  There's some time.

But I guess as long as we can still put food on the table, and gas in the car even at $4 a gallon - not enough enough people care.

And who gets that profit off the $4 gas anyway?  guess we don't care about that either. 

by August Adams (11 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 585 comments [11 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 1:06:10 PM

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Yes we have no bananas, we have no bananas today!

We got time to cry about the fact that we ain't got no time, but we ain't

gonna do anything about it but complain.

That is known as being in your mind. If one was out of our mind and

realized that all is not about  I, I, I, and me, perhaps we would wake up

and see the collective we that is more powerful and sane.

Wolfie says we have to go to the powder room.

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 1:32:55 PM

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The B-52 bomber from Minot and the missing nuclear tipped cruise missile should be a clue.

by Patrick (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 519 comments [22 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 1:51:58 PM

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That whole mess was 'splained' away much too nice, timely, and on-the-quiet for my liking.  That particular 'Mistake' at that level within the former Strategic Air Command - now  USSTRATCOM - just doesn't happen.  There are too many 'checks and balances' along the chain of command with nukes for this event to have occurred with it being a direct order from the TOP.  Calling it a 'miracle' would be a more reasonable explanation.  No, someone with a helluva lot of power ordered that mission.  We are in such deep doo-doo.  The idea that the US can start 'lobbing' nukes around ME and no one - China or Russia - will stop us is INSANE.  I can not image the EU being really happy about it either, since they would be front row for fallout.  BushCo. forgets that the last time we dropped a nuke, we were only ones with the capability.  These are dangerous times and I just don't think we are going to make it.  If the US government keeps screwing around, it will get our asses kicked by a collective armed to the hilt that has a long list of legitimate gripes.

The Bush Admin claims that the President and his advisors have been kept out of the loop for the purpose of "plausible deniability" has been shot to hell with the recent evidence of that groups close guidance and orchestration of the 'torture' debacle.  Bush knew, and now we do to but the citizens have been "shock and awed" into paralysis.

by Amanda Lang (23 articles, 14528 quicklinks, 442 diaries, 731 comments [17 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 2:13:17 PM

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So, we're all pretty much in agreement that these people are still actively pursuing the "Clean Break" strategy as envisioned by PNAC regardless of the wishes of the majority of the American Populace. Iran is the next target and they need a pretext to attack Iran and widen the war before the elections. An economic shock alone will not allow the requisite public acceptance of martial law. Only an actual WMD attack will provide the requisite scale needed to secure the gains of tyranny and trigger the emergency Continuity-Of-Government directives. The question then becomes, what one target will, in one stroke, be major enough to kill tens to hundreds of thousands, trigger the COG directives, wipe out virtually all organized domestic opposition, be easily blamed in terrorists from Iran, and take care of a major nuclear waste headache?

The answer is Target Rocky Flats, Arvada during the Democratic National Convention in Denver this summer.

1.Rocky Flats contains, by one Economist magazine estimate, 56 tons of weapons-grade uranium and plutonium that can't be moved to the Yucca Mountain repository due to local government opposition virtually along any transport route.

2.The timing of an attack on Denver would coincide with admin. timetables for an attack on Iran.

3.By hitting Rocky Flats during the Dem convention, the casualty count would be sufficiently high to qualify as a trigger event for martial law, wipe out the bulk of any organized opposition to an Iran attack, provide the necessary fig-leaf of bipartisanship as the neocons ride off to avenge the deaths of the Democrats against the Iranians who will be blamed.

 4.Such an attack would carpet the central plains with radioactive fallout, rendering the center of the wheat belt useless as arable land, driving food prices through the roof and providing the "Economic Shock" portion of the doctrine, paving the way for the North American Union and the final abrogation of the Constitution.

I posit this scenario because, with a background in precision-guided weaponry and WMD's, if I were in their shoes and knowing what I know, that would be my primary target.

by Ishmael1 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 50 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 1:54:51 PM

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The neocon whack jobs at PNAC were very comfortable with, and even hinting at, a "new Pearl Harbor" type event to expedite their aggressive policies for American supremacy and domination over oil resources in the Middle East, starting with Iraq first, then Iran, by aggressive military force.

In my Poll "What Really Happened on 9-11" Link CLICK HERE http://www.opednews.com/Poll/What-Really-Happened-on-9-11--050608-91.html my question regarding PNAC's "new Pearl Harbor" type event received a whopping 45% of the votes and my question regarding a "controlled demolition" also received a 45% vote, the consensus strongly indicating voters are now giving these false flag attacks some serious consideration and also they have some strong convictions about what really happened on 9-11.

It was none other than Rumsfeld who quickly blurted out at a Security Council meeting on 9-11 "this is a golden opportunity" and Rumsfeld's signature is on those PNAC documents, strongly indicating he believed and still believes that "fear and terror", a tactic lifted right out of the Nazis SS playbook, even against one's own nation, is the way to absolute power and also the way to keep it if threatened with the loss of power.   

by Gene Cappa (43 articles, 28 quicklinks, 113 diaries, 347 comments [33 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 2:51:37 PM

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I made this clip in Sept. 2006. It shows the Tube in London as a possible target. It show other possible targets. I post it here again, perhaps for the fifth time. Yellow cake my arse!

On the bye, for those who think Rumsi & Co. may release another attack to keep Dems out of the white house............

dream on. It's much bigger than that. 

by Tony Forest (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 166 diaries, 1429 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 3:03:29 PM

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Europe and North America are in dire straights, our economy is shot to hell and the only thing we have is plenty of war material, nothing else, just big guns. China is fast becoming the new owners of the world, a fact which doesn't frighten me as much as the last two owners Britain and USA.

 The USA will throw a tantrum that is certain, a last attempt at domination which will fail but at a very high cost in lives and resources, fall out from the nuclear attacks will cover the earth but who knows how many creatures will survive.

 I don't think many people realise just how mentally ill the US administration is but they sure as hell will find out in the very near future.

by douglas kay (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 83 comments) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 4:06:55 PM

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Rob... a while back, I wrote this which, I think, adds to your sentiment.

by Jon Gold (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 78 diaries, 109 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 6:12:15 PM

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There's no doubt that Donald Rumsfeld was in some capacity involved in the horrific attacks of September 11, 2001 and so now what do we do? Other than blogging, how do we get important information such as this to resonate throughout a credulous America? How do we expedite the Truth movement? If we are to ever right this once great country then it is essential we find out what exactly took place on that tragic day 9/11 so that it can never be repeated. And like the millions of American and European people who have an idea of what really transpired (the Truth movement) they are sick and dam tired of the obfuscating and the money which is being borrowed to fund these illegal and horrific oil wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Most importantly, they are tired of this false paradigm which has been created as a result of that horrible day.  

I no longer listen to the ABC, NBC or CBS evening news, I'm wondering whether any of these corporate media whores brought up the Rumsfeld comment for all of America to hear? Probably not! Better yet, did any of the right wing (neocon) radio talk show hosts with the millions of  people who tune in daily discuss it? 

One of the main problems facing our country today is the divisiveness created by 9/11. A thorough bipartisan investigation is what's needed. Anything less, then we might as well forget about the Constitution and call it what it is, "just a dam piece of paper!"  

by Munich (1 articles, 86 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 1125 comments [86 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 7:16:19 PM

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If we lose our Republic, where will we go? So, let's not just complain but let's start making as much noise as we can demanind that Congress commence a new investigation of the 9.11 and of how much the administration knew before the event. 

by Nathan Nahm (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 138 comments [60 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 9:51:21 PM

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In Amanda's article "Neocons Admit 'war on terror' is a Hoax", plainly relayed that they have been lying. McCain said something to the same effect the other day. I can't recall but I believe it was about the lies going into Iraq. Although he never termed them "lies".

 They would be eating hat, IMO, if another "attack" happened in the way of "terrorism". Think about it. After all the money they have spent, the numerous agencies they created to SUCK the taxpayer dry, and the great Oz, Chertoff at the wheel, they would look like failures on that so called 'war on terrorism'. I rather believe that it won't be an attack. In the Directive 51, Resolution 6166, the Martial Law Act, it names several things that could call for Martial Law. It states DISEASE outbreak(that' brewing as I type with the Clinic in Vegas episode, and that mess ( snow ball rolling down a hill). One can be planted easy enough as well. It states a natural disaster and "any other condition".

I believe a natural disaster is unfolding. We had 2 midwest quakes which is rare, a matter of weeks ago. I watch the USGS site like a hawk. The Midwest has not had a quake of any size in 4 years. Then the Chilean volcano blew a couple weeks ago and the crescendo began. Then followed: The Burma Cyclone, the China earthquake and the activity around the world is remarkable. I am not saying that the big guys in Washington are causing these disasters(they wish); however, I truly believe that they will, indeed, capitalize on them when one or a few happen here that produce massive devestation. Another gun sweep, food rationing and more disease is just what they will welcome.

It sounds like Ishmael1 is on to something.

One thing we all seem to agree on is that Martial Law is coming...bottom line.

by shirley reese (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 592 comments [98 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 10:39:35 PM

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I have seen too many comments on the web stating that there is nothing we can do to stop the neo cons, that the American people will never stir from their apathy, that Blackwater and other private mercenary forces will crush us even if we futilely try to revolt, that there is no way of escaping a future of martial law and dictatorship, FEMA camps, etc.

But history, even recent history, shows examples of seeming invincible tyrannies being overthrown.  Albania was once deemed so tightly under the control of its Stalinist dictators that they could never be overthrown.  But when Stalinism collapsed at the start of the 1990's, the Albanian dictatorship held out longer than most but it too was overthrown by its own people and consigned to the dust bin of history.

So stop saying that it is hopeless and there is nothing we can do.  There is, we can, and we will.

Robert Halfhill

by rhalfhill (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 325 comments) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 10:43:29 PM

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the damage has been done. The ripoff is complete. So is the hijacking of the courts which essentially leaves us with nothing. Even a new deal can only curb the devastation but it will take thirty or more years to climb out of the immense debt we're in. 

Gore Vidal:

I think I’ve always had a good idea about my native land, but I didn’t think that institutionally we were so easy to overthrow, because it was a coup d’etat, 9/11. The whole went crashing. And when we got rid of—when they got rid of Magna Carta, I thought, well, really, this wasn’t much of a republic to begin with. 

AMY GOODMAN: What do you think has to happen right now?

GORE VIDAL: It’s happened. We’re broke. Do you follow television, as they find out we’re running out of food? That’s never happened in my lifetime.

by Michael Shaw (12 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 439 comments [16 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 11:33:46 PM

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...he should be stood against a wall and shot.

by Michael Shaw (12 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 439 comments [16 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 11:05:46 PM

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Rob,

You, I fear are too close to the truth that will one day be revealed.

If there is a single soul left on this planet who still believes that

** Iraq had WMD's

** That the NEOCONS cared for anything but oil.

** That the criminal troika of George W (wimp)Bush, Dick (the snake) Chaney and good old Rummyfield are not criminals that should be tried in a court of law.

I then leave you with this thought...the SURGE IS WORKING.

by vet613 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 19 comments) on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 9:24:50 AM

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A fascist is supported my corporations, and Al-CIAda is a US created entity with Saddam Hussein and Osma Bin Laden as former Ronald Reagan Freedom Fighter's now re-labeled as Terrorist's by the Reich.
I ask you Tom, What has caused Islam extremists to foment their hatred for the US? It certainly isn't our surrendered "Freedom's". I think it has much to do with encouraging Israel to do as it pleases while the Palestinians suffer.
If the US wants democracies in the ME, why did the CIA remove a democratic elected president of Iran and replace him with the Shah in 1953?
Why can't there be a thorough open investigation to 9/11? Obviously there are still a lot of unanswered questions and weak support for the Bu$h & Co. sad excuse to their handling of the catastrophe.
Bu$h's cocaine and alcohol saturated brain seems to not recall that 9/11 happened on a republican watch, and lamely suggest that another attack on the homeland will happen if democrats are elected to office in November.
This makes me wonder that given the lies and false evidence surrounding the justification for the War Of Terror, it would not be beyond the realm for the Goon's and Thug's of Bu$h & Co. to "Shock & Awe" the "Homeland" once more.

by Stanimal (2 articles, 226 quicklinks, 38 diaries, 1254 comments [234 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 4:57:58 PM

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Stanimal, your only offering conjecture and nothing factual; so, I see no point in commenting on your... rant.  But I DO take exception to the term "Islamofascist". 

I've never used the term and think its reference silly.  Islam, as represented by poticial groups like the Taliban or al-Qaeda is reactionary or conservative to a fundamentalist perspective, but that does not make them fascists. 

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2103 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 6:32:49 PM

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Stanimal, your only offering conjecture and nothing factual; so, I see no point in commenting on your... rant.  But I DO take exception to the term "Islamofascist". 

I've never used the term and think its reference silly.  Islam, as represented by poticial groups like the Taliban or al-Qaeda is reactionary or conservative to a fundamentalist perspective, but that does not make them fascists. 

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2103 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, May 15, 2008 at 6:32:55 PM

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"Tom, what about Christianfascism and Jewishfascism or do you prefer to blank all that out in you narrow topsy turvey racist thinking? You hate Arabs and you're ashamed of it so you prefer to use the pentagon coined phrase of islamofartism and give a link to a childish web page to justify your beliefs."

I suppose you need to define what you mean by fascism. Fascism is like pornography in that you know it when you see it. But just like pornography, people see fascism differently. General-speaking, though, fascism is a totalitarian philosophy of government that glorifies the state and nation and assigns to the state control over every aspect of national life.

The Taliban, al-Qaeda, and others identify themselves more through Sharia Law and not a national boundary. I think it difficult, then, for such groups to be termed Islamfascists. Although they are totalitarian, such groups glorify the theology above the state. Therefore, the term Theocracies seems more fitting.

Personally, I don't recall hating Arabs or feeling ashamed by an alleged hate. These are presumptions on your part – and not very good ones at that. And for reference, the term "Islamofascism" wasn't coined by the "Pentagon"; but rather a Scottish historian in the early 1990s - click here . Lastly, I don't "need" anything to justify my beliefs. They are mine and mine alone, and if faith alone is my reasoning; then so be it.

"Your Alqaida btw is the list of former mujahedeen trained by the CIA. Alqaida is as much Muslim as Bush and Blair are Christian. The British and US intelligence agencies gave birth to terrorism and to Alqaida, Israeli Mossad recruits for Alqaida."

Right... the people that compose those organization would be peaceful farmers right now were it not for the EVIL Americans and British. You may think that, if it brings you comfort.

"It's about total control and keeping your people in fear and ignorance until it is their turn (the UK Ministry of Defence published a report in April 07 predicting riots and chaos in the UK in the next 30yrs -- why? Why would the average British self-centred, self-satisfied, couch-potato, happy gizmo-playing, dumbed down slaves be rioting?) "

You (and most progressives) are so very wrong on this point. Why has the US (and occasionally the UK and others) repeatedly played a role on the global stage since World War II? Simply put, they are the only ones willing to assume the role. The UN could not perform that role. The former Soviet Union could – and tried – but didn't always... succeed... as the world community saw the interventions. That left the US and its allies.

Did the US commit wrongs along the way? Absolutely. Were those wrongs acceptable? Absolutely not. Was there systems of accountability with the US and allied approach, as opposed to the Soviet and bloc countries? Yes. Did the US also serve some of its own interests by acting globally? Yes, of course.

The US has repeatedly acted on the global stage in the last several decades because it's the one power that has the ability AND will to do so. The UN remains a largely symbolic body that serves not the global interests but the perceived inequities between nations and classes of people based upon emotional, religious, and arbitrary standards.

If you're content to permit genocide and oppression on the national level, then please do continue to spout your silliness. If you're interested in actually trying to make a difference in the world, then view the US and its allies in the proper, global light.

by Tom Murphy (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 2103 comments [55 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, May 17, 2008 at 9:18:45 AM

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