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November 7, 2007 at 11:56:19

The Great American Social Security Bamboozle

by Richard E Walrath and Patricia L Johnson (Posted by Patricia L Johnson)     Page 1 of 2 page(s)

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David Broder, who writes for the Washington Post, recently had a column about Social Security. If you can find it, it's worth a look--not for what it says, but for what it fails to say. As Broder gets older, he loses more and more of his marbles.

"A Hearing the Candidates Should Attend" by David Broder is filled with everything anyone ever wanted to know, except the basic question - why. Why is the Social Security program in trouble?

In the following statement Broder fails to provide a clear picture of the problem "unless ways are found to reform the financing and benefits of Social Security and Medicare, the demands imposed by the retirement of millions of baby boomers will consume the federal budget and blight the prospects of the next generations."

We didn't just wake up one fine morning and say "Oops... there is no more money in the kitty" that's not how government works, so what went wrong, why is Social Security in trouble? The answer is Social Security isn't in trouble, Medicare is and lumping Social Security and Medicare together is wrong, they are two separate programs.

Social Security benefits are paid through payroll taxes. Employers and Employees each pay 6.2% of wages, up to a maximum (2008 will be $108,000), while self employed individuals pay 12.4%.

In 2006, 84% of Social Security benefits came from payroll taxes, with 14% coming from interest earnings, and 2% from taxes on Social Security benefits.

The 2007 OASDI Trustees Report states " Social Security's combined trust funds are projected to allow full payment of scheduled benefits until they become exhausted in 2041"

The report continues "... financial adequacy of the program for the next 75 years could be restored if increases were made equivalent to increasing the Social Security payroll tax immediately and permanently from its current level of 12.4 percent (for employees and employers combined) to 14.35 percent."

In other words, the Social Security deficit over a 75-year period is no more than 1.95 percent of taxable payroll wages, not exactly a financial crisis.

Medicare presents a different problem. In 2008 the first 'baby boomer' becomes eligible for early Social Security benefits at age 62.   She recently applied for benefits online, but her benefits do not actually begin until January of 2008.  Three years later, at age 65, this person will become eligible for Medicare and over the next two decades 78 million more Americans will become eligible for Social Security and subsequent Medicare benefits.

The problems facing Medicare are as follows:

  • Americans are living longer so they require health care over a longer period of time.
  • Medical costs are rising at more than twice the rate of inflation.
  • And the major problem - the 2003 prescription drug plan put forth by the Bush Administration

During a CBS 60 Minutes interview , David M Walker, Comptroller General of the United States made the following statement about the 2003 Medicare prescription drug plan " The prescription drug bill was probably the most fiscally irresponsible piece of legislation since the 1960s,"

David Walker, as chief accountability officer of the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) and former Public Trustee for Social Security and Medicare from 1990 to 1995, is definitely someone 'in the know' when it comes to the status of Social Security and Medicare.

His following comment says all there is to say about the subject: "With one stroke of the pen, Walker says , the federal government increased existing Medicare obligations nearly 40 percent over the next 75 years."

This administration did not err in providing prescription drug coverage to senior citizens and the disabled; their error was in not negotiating lower prescription and medical costs prior to implementing the program.

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DrColes

The problem with Social Security is totally caused by govern

The full retirement age is based on maintaining a 50% death rate, so the government does not have to pay any paid for benefits but to half of the investors. The government gets 15% of all wages in America and is so incompetent as an investment manager, if we could we would have fired them, they do not invest our money and grow the funds. The problem with Social Security is totally caused by government. No, matter your political party affiliation, and setting aside your thoughts on issues.  We all need to remember what it is to be an American Citizen.  We need to make sure our elected representatives obey their Oath of Office and keep their Oath of Allegiance. See http://tinyurl.com/2znnvl Know whom you are voting for.

by DrColes (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Thursday, November 8, 2007 at 12:48:19 PM
 


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Patricia L JohnsonRichard E Walrath and Patricia L Johnson are co-owners of the Articles and Answers News and Information sites.  Articles and Answers 2007 and
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The problem with Social Security is totally caused by govern

All the problems in this country have been totally caused by government, but the problem with Social Security, which is actually a problem with Medicare was caused almost entirely by George W. Bush and the Republican party.  When Part D of the Medicare bill was passed, it was passed with a Republican president and a Republican congress.  They can say what they want, but the primary intent of the Part D Medicare Drug plan was to boost pharmaceutical profits, which it did.  In the first six months the plan was in effect pharmaceutical profits increased 27% or $8 BILLION dollars... Why? Mainly because they transferred 6.1 million people from Medicaid, which had caps on what could be charged for prescription drug benefits, to Medicare that has no caps. 

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In America, the citizens own the government, the government does NOT own the citizens.  The constitution says "We The People", it does NOT say "The Government  Grants".  Government works for the citizens, the citizens do NOT work for the government.

Seems to me that's the way it's supposed to work, but it doesn't work that way anymore - this administration wants, not only to rule the citizens, but to rule the world. 

When we get back to the point where the citizens in this country know what their elected officials are doing, then we're on the right track - in the meanwhile we're just treading water.

Thank you for your post.

Pat Johnson

by Patricia L Johnson (24 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 32 comments) on Thursday, November 8, 2007 at 1:09:50 PM
 


Mother of 7, grandmother of 21, great grandmother of 41 and great-great grandmother of 2 and loving every minute of it. I want a better world for us all than the mess we have now.
RaeMother of 7, grandmother of 21, great grandmother of 41 and great-great grandmother of 2 and loving every minute of it. I want a better world for us all than the mess we have now.

Social Security

This admin doesn't want to have to pay back what they have borrowed (stolen). The elite want to privitize it so they will make money on the investments. No one so greedy as the obscenely wealthy.

The best and only logical change that is needed is to raise the level the obscenely wealthy are taxed on..Put it to 90% of their total income to be taxed for social security. Then put a law into place that keeps the governments greedy hands from "borrowing" from social security funds ever again!

by Rae (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 218 comments) on Thursday, November 8, 2007 at 3:26:29 PM
 


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Patricia L JohnsonRichard E Walrath and Patricia L Johnson are co-owners of the Articles and Answers News and Information sites.  Articles and Answers 2007 and
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Social Security

A 90% tax rate on the rich for Social Security would not be a fair trade unless the cap was also raised on the amount they can receive in benefits each month.  Basically the entire system would have to be revamped if the 2008 maximum of $108,000 was raised, due to the fact that those receiving Social Security benefits are taxed when incomes are over a certain amount.

If anyone is going to pay into a system they must be able to eventually obtain benefit from it, otherwise it would be no more than a charitable contribution and maybe that's the way to go.  Increase the maximum payment and allow the wealthy to deduct a certain percentage as a charitable deduction... or some similar program so they're not penalized.

Thank you for your comment.

Pat Johnson

by Patricia L Johnson (24 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 32 comments) on Thursday, November 8, 2007 at 7:46:52 PM
 

 

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