It would be very much desirable  if somehow  there are  proper criminal investigations of  the acts like those whenever possible.  As 19th Century revealed and XXth century confirmed  the acts of 'terror' come out the political acts directed  by many powerful people.  That was especially well seen after the  ' terrorist'  killed in 1934 ( I am not sure about the date)  Jugoslavian King Alexander and French Prime Minister Bartou. In an episode srikingly  prequeling the JFK assassination  during ther official visit in France a man jumped on the side of the open(!) limo and shot both of them point- blank while afterwards  he was immediatley killed by the guards.  This time the investigation revealed that he was an Ustashi killer on the retainer of the Nazis who feared those both leaders as staunch anti-Germans.  In fact, it was a Nazi  official doctrine to change Europe by killing leaders. Now, you tell me:  with all that  Nazi legacy don't you think that  such principle still strives?

As for Sidney Reily, he was apprehended and executed in Russia as a side effect of the  ' Operation Trust' of the Russian Secret Police. Every dog gets its fleas.

by Mark Sashine (72 articles, 19 quicklinks, 269 diaries, 4101 comments [131 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 7:32:04 AM

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As I've said before; only Acts of God are not conspiracies, and even He makes specific plans when He Acts. And as Einstein said to Niels Bohr when Bohr indicated that the quantum was a Flowing Chaos, "God doesn't shoot dice with the Universe."

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1317 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 7:38:44 AM

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   but we live in the time of entertainment. What can be more entertaining(sorry) then mass death?  But to be entertaining it has to have a mystique, a sense of  something grotesque, something special. Then people cling to it the way a puppy eats his feces- the smell is irresistable ( sorry for the comparison). But add to it the tabasco sauce of cold, direct investigation, the  cool- headed ' who benefits' and  also ' follow the money' and people  do exactly what the puppy does- they  stop watching. And when they stop watching-  terrorists   reveal themselves  as what they are- paid assassins in 90% of the cases and the users of the misery in the remaining 10%.

by Mark Sashine (72 articles, 19 quicklinks, 269 diaries, 4101 comments [131 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 7:49:50 AM

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Jimmy Carter today laid them out well. I agree with your analysis.

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1317 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 8:03:07 AM

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Right you are. To the Fascist's/Nazi's and in fact most people consumed with with hatred of their fellow creatures (and all creatures) "removing" obstacles to making money by any means, is justifiable.

This mad-dog viciousness, is in my lexicon, eidence of a soul so burningly evils that it is neted in Hell even while the body still writhes living on Earth. For me, one way to tell a living person with a soul condemned is by their fruits ("By their fruits shall Ye Know them..."). And what are the Bushite Fruits, mass-murder, religous bigotry and blasphemy, steailng, etc.

Therefore the political means of advancing a plan is anything they want it to be, The fascists are demoniacs and always think their plan is superior and that none are bright enough to have ever thought of it before. What they fail to comprehend is that a great many people consider evil means to an end, but most sane one's reject them as despicable and would never carry them out.

Sane people recognize evil quite readily and reject it. Mentally unbalanced people think they anyone who rejects Fascist ideas about murder are weak. I guess in their lexicon Jesus was weak so they reinvented "Jesus the Prince of Peace," As "Jesus-Mars, the God of War."

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1317 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 8:01:23 AM

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Not what they say.... but what they do.

Great advice.

That's why Jesus is the master..... he knew what he was talking

about.

by Bob Gormley (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 1094 comments [65 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 8:49:49 AM

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Great Article Pete,

     Good research on the history of terrorism.

Yeah, 9/11 gave Bush, etc. the excuse they needed.

I wish I had seen through it initially, now I do.

     "Sponge cake,beer, and crab legs".... I like that description.

I also like the anti-consumption, non- materialism comment. I couldn't agree

more.

    The truth is no one really dies. The body decays , but spirit cannot die.

It's just a question of where your spirit ends up.

     Also, your grandpappy was right about this world. We experience evil

first hand here on earth. Kinda of like a schoolroom or training ground.

Evil is allowed on a temporary basis.... then justice will prevail.

Bob

by Bob Gormley (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 1094 comments [65 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 8:46:56 AM

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Might a lady join this boys club? I am so impressed with OpEdNews.com because of writers like professor pete and others, and such interesting banter with such bright and insightfull commentators. Keep the news and opinions flowing. Maybe soon I'll get past my shyness and offer an article, myself.

by Agatha Payne (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 50 comments) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 9:44:08 AM

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I'm kinda partial to the ladies anyway.

by Bob Gormley (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 1094 comments [65 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 9:57:41 AM

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The research was the easiest part, and as Panurg pointed out, we could have gone back much further than 1968. I think in an earlier article I mentioned David's setting up for slaughter Uriah, so He could marry Bathesheba. (She must have been gifted beauty, to evoke such ardor.)

In reality, I also said there or elsewhere that everything but Acts of God were planned therefore conspired: here below are a few of my favorites of Websters definitions of conspiracy:

2. A concurence or general tendency, as of circumstances, to
one event, as if by agreement.
[1913 Webster]

This one is much like my own comment:

A conspiracy in all heavenly and earthly things.
--Sir P.
Sidney.
[1913 Webster]

The ones below are more Bushite-like:

3. (Law) An agreement, manifesting itself in words or deeds,
by which two or more persons confederate to do an unlawful
act, or to use unlawful to do an act which is lawful;
confederacy.

Syn: Combination; plot; cabal.
[1913 Webster]
See also: [Conspiracies] [Conspiration] [2] : WordNet (r) 2.0conspiracy
n 1: a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an
unlawful act [syn: confederacy]
2: a plot to carry out some harmful or illegal act (especially
a political plot) [syn: cabal]
3: a group of conspirators banded together to achieve some
harmful or illegal purpose [syn: confederacy]

AND LOOK AT WHAT I FOUND IN MOBY THESAURUS, BELOW, WHICH APPLIES DIRECTLY TO THE BUSHITES. I MADE THEM BOLD AND ITALICIZED.

See also: [confederacy] [cabal] [3] : Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0170 Moby Thesaurus words for "conspiracy":
Anschluss, accompaniment, accordance, addition, affiliation,
agglomeration, aggregation, agreement, alliance, amalgamation, art,
artful dodge, artifice, assimilation, association, blend, blending,
blind, cabal, cahoots, cartel, centralization, chicane, chicanery,
co-working, coaction, coalescence, coalition, coincidence,
collaboration, collectivity, collusion, combination, combine,
combined effort, combo, complicity, complot, composition, concert,
concerted action, concomitance, concordance, concourse,
concurrence, confederacy, confederation, confluence, congeries,
conglomeration, conjugation, conjunction, conn, connivance,
connivery, consilience, consolidation, contrivance, contriving,
cooperation, correspondence, counterplot, coup, covin, craft,
cute trick, deceit, deep-laid plot, design, device, dirty work,
disloyalty, dodge, dodgery, ecumenism, embodiment, encompassment,
engineering, enosis, expedient, faithlessness, fakement, falsity,
federalization, federation, feint, fetch, finagling, finesse,
foul play, frame-up, fusion, gambit, game, gimmick, grift, hookup,
inclusion, incorporation, integration, intrigue, jugglery,
junction, junta, knavery, league, little game, machination,
maneuver, maneuvering, manipulation, marriage, meld, melding,
merger, move, package, package deal, parasitism, perfidiousness,
perfidy, pettifoggery, pettifogging, plot, plotting, ploy,
practice, racket, red herring, rigging, ruse, saprophytism, scheme,
schemery, scheming, sedition, sharp practice, shift, simultaneity,
skulduggery, sleight, solidification, stratagem, strategy,
subterfuge, supercherie, symbiosis, synchronism, syncretism,
syndication, syneresis, synergy, synthesis, tactic, tie-up,
treacherousness, treachery, treason, trick, trickery,
underhand dealing, underplot, unification, union, united action,
web of intrigue, wedding, wile, wily device, wire-pulling

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1317 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 10:58:56 AM

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I'm glad I stopped by Op Ed News today and found your article.

So the rich arm both sides in a conflict for immediate gain as in more bullets and bombs equal mo' Money and of course the end game is set up for always being on the "right" or winning side.

Or simply as in the case of Al Queda, where there is no particular enemy, and you "need" one,  you have to create one.

It only took 5 years but the USA has finally established a formidable Al Queda Presence in IRAQ. Or that's the way it seems. But at least it helps explain why the US military did little to contain IRAQ after the shock and awe.

So now it's on with the never ending War On Terror. It's clear that everyone is involved in this Faux War. You're either winning, $$$$ or Losing. I suspect that most of us are losing.

by "Hoss" David P. (51 articles, 5 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 338 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 11:44:56 AM

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Thanks.

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1317 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 12:12:30 PM

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boys and girls alike that  there is no War on Terror. There  is War on us.

by Mark Sashine (72 articles, 19 quicklinks, 269 diaries, 4101 comments [131 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 1:31:43 PM

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This is beyond Orwellian. Would you say that the rush to chastise or discredit "Conspiracy Theorists" is really like the theory that if aliens ravage animal corpses, it discredits those who report alien sightings or landings?

Now, I am not being sarcastic, here and do not necessarily accept that there are aliens, I am just pointing out the ploy of elaborate discreditation, to deflect from the always ongoing conspiracies.

I have noted Profpete how you destroyed the argument in other articles of abortionists by ignoring the standard argument that it cannot proven that a fetus has a soul or even life on it's own, preempting them bydeclaring at the outset of your articles, that you do not care if a fetus has a soul, or life of its own, you argued for potential life and helplessness and made comparisons to the other elements of The Culture of Life, which shows both sides being hypocritcal,

I ask mention all of this 'cause, I wonder, with such strategic and tatical logic, do you:

A. Have debate experience?

B. Or is it your scientific training?

C. Just fast-thinking, High IQ?

D. Or all of the above?

E. How do you make such unexpected predictions? I have read many of your blogs and am impressed with them, like the Tsunami prediction about 10 days before it occurred and even the number which would die? and the Fallwell prediction, you were giving him hints for months and then 2 days before, May 13 nailed it dead-on?

F. Last, are you married?

by Agatha Payne (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 50 comments) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 1:43:09 PM

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Umm, I don't know. I was always good in discussions as a kid. I don't really think anyone can, or should take any credit for things which appear to be a natural thing. I mean we are all born with certian innate abilities, they differ from one to another person because we are not all alike. There are things, like you and everyone, we are each good at and things we are a bust at. So we get no merit for our innate skills, they are just there when you are born, I guess, I really don't know.

In terms of predictions, I just seem to know. Just a lucky guesser I suppose. My Grand-Pappy was good at that sort of thing too. Some weird kind of instinct, I suppose, or maybe just luck. Boy, I am not licky at many things, but so maybe this is my compensation prize. (Palms-up Shrug)

Lastly, yes, I am married! We have two daughters and 4 grandchildren... all girls! They are 2 weeks old, 7 years, old, 18 years old and 20 years old. Thanks for asking. I appreciate your reading my stuff and I think we've touched base with each other on my blog a few times or here, or elsewhere.

God Bless, you all

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1317 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 1:57:57 PM

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You have the same first and last name as my wife, who is currently visiting our new grandchild out east. Talk about synchorisity! Shades of Karl Jung!

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1317 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 2:02:38 PM

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Gormly, Panurg, Hosshoss777, we been had!

My wife just called long distance. She is the Linda O'Brien faking us out. I thought there was something fishy and since I, like Jung and Einstein, do not believe in coincidence. So, I wondered, half thinking, it couldn't be Linda, could it? It was, though, she almost fooled me completely. I did an Email, double-take, but it is Linda O'Brien-Bagnolo, my wife!

What threw me at first is that she always goes by Lindsay.

Well, an online Hoax uncovered and you saw it right here on opednews.com! Is my face full of egg or just very red?

Hey, does this count as an accidental reincarnation of that once great American Heroic thing which corporate America, once having bought out the MSM, destroyed? What did they used to call it, way back then? Oh, yeah, it's been so long; Investigative Reporting?

Gee whatever happened to it? Well, the MSM Death Star thought they'd ended it, when corporate American Neo-cons bought the major MainStreamMedia, but OpEdNews.com and jillions of other blogspots Rebels, like Han Solo, Obi Wan, Luke SkyWalker, Princess Leia and Chewbacca upended the Death Sar. Thank God for the 'Net or we might be stuck with Bushites forever!

And thanks for writing everyone. Oh, and Lindsay, I may have a few practical jokes up my sleeve, also.

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1317 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 2:31:28 PM

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Sounds like your wife is a little mischief maker!

by Bob Gormley (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 1094 comments [65 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 2:48:39 PM

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Just be glad you gave the right answers to the Mrs.'s   questions.

That's usually a good strategy for peace on the home front. LOL

I'm out,

by "Hoss" David P. (51 articles, 5 quicklinks, 14 diaries, 338 comments [4 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 3:16:56 PM

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RIGHT! WHAT IF I HAD SAID, "NO DEAR YOUNG LADY WHAT IS YOUR PHONE NUMBER?"

TALK ABOUT DODGING BULLETS! WHEW!

by Professor Emeritus Peter Bagnolo (144 articles, 1 quicklinks, 95 diaries, 1317 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 3:49:13 PM

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Well, at least that exchange went from being a bit creepy to somewhat amusing.

by Nicholas Wolf (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 4:40:43 PM

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