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May 8, 2008 at 15:24:11

Veterans vs Amnesty

by Pat Smith     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Veteran's vs Amnesty

While our troops are bravely fighting for freedom in the Middle East, at home it appears freedom is free for illegals as they invade our great Nation. The Democrats advocating for amnesty are saying that citizenship for illegals will cost them each a $5,000 dollar fee. In reality what these politicians are saying; is that the lives of the brave heroes we lost in this war on terror are each only worth five thousand dollars?

Here in Pa. we have Veterans living underneath bridges, and employed illegal's living in the rental properties! How can our government propose to give amnesty to 20 million low-wage earning illegal's, all of whom will then be eligible for free government welfare programs, when they can not help just a few hundred thousand Veterans, many who just need proper medical care or are truly homeless, or unemployed? Here in Pa. presently there are Veterans living underneath a bridge in the Wilkes-Barre area, while employed illegal aliens are living in our rental properties!

Just a few weeks ago I watched Senator Kennedy (D-Mass) hard at work on C-Span showing on his charts how 7 million US citizens are presently unemployed. He also showed how presently there are only 4 million jobs available in the United States. How can Democrats push for the amnesty of 20 million illegal aliens, while providing us with the best evidence against it? Now even if the four million jobs available in the US are all "jobs American don't want to do", and so we then give amnesty to 20 million low wage earning illegal's to fill up these 4 million available jobs, what about the 7 million unemployed Americans and the other 16 million (then) naturalized citizens?? Amnesty would make an already bad situation much worst. Only in America: Veterans vs. Amnesty for 20 million illegals. The help needed for this new generation of Veterans has a tangible price tag; the cost of amnesty is infinite....

Illegals are the biggest contributors to unemployment in the US, and they are forcing many US citizens into early retirement. Two illegals are working for the price of one American and with no employee benefits. They help the employer in the present and future. My school taxes have nearly doubled because of the illegal's many, many children in our public schools.

What we should realize from the cost of this necessary war in the Middle East; is that in just a few short months in time the United States would save very, very much money by invading Mexico and forcing the Mexican government to take care of their own people, instead of the US supporting all the illegal's in our country.

This is not a matter of racism; in high school my best friend was from Mexico and she had nine hot brothers. They did everything legal, was never on welfare, one of her brothers became a Doctor and still gives much to our community. Here is something I can document with real people who already lost doing the work they love thanks to illegals.

A very ex-friend of mine always bragged about the money he was saving by hiring illegals and (of course) what great workers they are (home-depot regional management). He then arranged for some of them to work on and clean his mother-in-law's small business. Then they where hired to do the lawn work at their homes. Actually, the only American they still use is the pool guy. But give the illegal's a bit more time and they will 'pool' enough cash together to invest in some pool cleaning equipment.

At the same time another friend lost her small home cleaning business, two young mothers that were looking for an apartment together so they could move out of the welfare housing project lost also their employment there. You know the job's Americans don't want to do?

One year prior to the above another friend lost their family run small landscaping business. You know the job's Americans don't want to do?

If all these low wage illegal's receive amnesty the already filled to capacity low-income welfare housing projects will become a real war zone! I can add many more pages of information . . .

If you're ever in Pa just e-mail me and you can meet all these people, just please bring ICE with you. And the reason you don't see hungry illegal's is because about 20 live in the same house and that is a lot of cash (billions) that gets sent back into the Mexican economy each year. If illegals do get hungry here they just visit the local Catholic Church and polish a few pews. Soon the Catholic church is going to run out of free food because people are smarting up and I am one of many that will no longer pay church dues.

How can our government propose to give amnesty to 20 million low-wage earning illegal's, all of whom will then be eligible for free government welfare programs, when they can not help just a few hundred thousand Veterans, many who just need proper medical care or are truly homeless, or unemployed? Here in Pa. presently there are Veterans living underneath a bridge in the Wilkes-Barre area, while employed illegal aliens are living in our rental properties!

 

As a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.

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Margaret BassettMargaret Bassett is an 86-year old, currently living in senior housing, with a lifelong interest in political conumbrums. She hopes to hold out for one more presidential election. Bachelors from State University of Iowa (1944) and Masters from Roosevelt University (1975) help to unravel important requirements for modern communication. Early introduction to computer science (1966) trumps them. It's payback time. She's been "entitled" so long she hopes to find some good coming off the keyboa...

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Pat, that is a good article

I saw it this morning and sent it to be published. You should have received an email from "nobody" which would have been me. Thursday evening I see that you have two QuickLinks ready to be accepted. They cannot be picked up by OpEdNews software. Please ask for the link which works with QuickLinks.

About your article, you make such good points. Since my degree in poli sci is so obsolete and yours is new, I'm wondering what you studied regarding Western Hemisphere relations. I studied during WW2, and the Good Neighbor Policy was vital to the success of the war. For example, the humps between Brazil and Africa furnished the shortest air route, back when planes couldn't fly so far and the idea of refueling in the air was only someone's dream, if that.

by Margaret Bassett (17 articles, 716 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 405 comments) on Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 10:05:16 PM
 


As a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.
Pat SmithAs a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.

Thank You,

Margaret, Thank you for your kind words, I graduated in 1997 but basically it has been pretty much the same as history repeats itself.  The US wishes to spread solidarity and democracy and in the way is terrorism, illegal arms & drugs and government corruption.  While free trade is beneficial for many, I personally believe that like the illegal’s, it is the middle class tax-paying American who is footing the bill and losing the most as we lose all our jobs over-seas.  Just two months ago I watched in horror as Bill Gates begged for high skill working visa’s to be changed from 25,000 a year to over 65,000 a year.  He might donate money to help our education system, but his actions defeats his own donations.  He must higher our own American college graduates and train them to his (our) needs.

by Pat Smith (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Friday, May 9, 2008 at 6:58:11 AM
 


I'm supporting Dennis Kucinich for President. 
Ty ShlackmanI'm supporting Dennis Kucinich for President. 

garbage

Your article is garbage. Our troops aren't fighting for anyone's freedom. They're participating in illegal and immoral occupations of other countries. They're violating the Iraqis and Afghanis freedom and right to self-determination. Excuse me but America is not a "great nation." Our country sucks because of white supremacist nationalist trash like yourself. The illegals aren't invading America. They're fleeing extreme poverty and political persecution. Amnesty means no punishment. Paying a $5000 fee is a punishment. No one should have to pay the government any amount of money to become a citizen. The soldiers dying in Iraq and Afghanistan aren't brave heroes. They were gutless cowards and traitors who violated there oath to defend the US Constitution and participated in illegal wars of aggression. The real heroes are those who demand an end to the wars and occupations of other countries and demand the truth about 911 which was committed by the US government. If you oppose illegal immigration so much then why don't you demand an end to free trade agreements which destroy countries economies and cause mass impoverishment. Corporations cause unemployment not illegals since corporations want cheap labor.

Stop using illegal immigrants as a scapegoat for the countries problems. Big Business and their supporters like yourself are the problem. You're an elitist. You support wealthy successful people but you hate poor and impoverished people and you use the "blame the victim" routine.

I prefer illegal immigrants to the murderers, rapists, and torturers in the military.

by Ty Shlackman (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 494 comments) on Saturday, May 10, 2008 at 1:00:05 PM
 


As a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.
Pat SmithAs a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.

I don't even feel sorry for you...

Ty, usually I just ignore ignorance and trash like you, but since you have the same name as my DOG, but sound worst than a cat in heat, just please move to the Middle East, you definitely do not belong in America.  And guess what? As a disabled veteran I am economically poorer than you are, but much richer in FRIENDS who do not yell:  ‘oh woe is me, give me more free food stamps now!’  Illegals are the down fall of the middle-class and our great Nation.  Have a Happy Mothers Day!!!

by Pat Smith (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 11:00:52 AM
 


idk
idk idkidk

You are the most irrational person ever

Guess what buddy....

 I'm an immigrant, born and Raised in Hungary...got dragged here when I was 9...I'm 17 now. ANd I made a stupid account just so I can comment on your ignorance.

 Let us begin,

First off, I completely understand your grief and anger over the fact that American Veterans are being treated in such a disrespectful manner.But how dare you blame that statistic on immigrants of any kind? I don't know how you've even reached this point. I'll have you know that I'd gladly die for this great country..even as an immigrant.

Secondly, immigrants, illegal or not are who drive this economy. It is fact that over 85% of busines's are owned and operated by immigrants (typicaly European), and it is also common knowledge that illegal immigrants drive the bottom half of the economy by providing cheap and hard labor. Illegal immigrants are the reason that a middle and upper class even exist. Immigrants are by no means free loaders of the so called American Freedom. They are forced to hide and remain in secrecy because of simple minded morons such as yourself.

 But I don't blame you, because I know that you haveno idea what it's truly like to be an immigrant, and what it's like to be better than your AMERICAN classmates in everything, yet not being able to enjoy the simple privilige to a license. You don't know what it was like having to learn English in the ghetto, andthen becoming a fully Honors level student in the suburbs. You've never experienced the hardships of not being able to get a job soley because of the lack of working papers. Otherwise I could already be making 55K a year out of High School because I am a certified CCNA ( thats a networking certification incase you were wondering, all for a 12th grader...put that in your pipe and smoke it!)

So until you've lived a day in my shoe, don't you ever dare blame immigrants for any misfortune that has touched any American citizen. Because I'd love to see you cleaning feces from a toilet for 3 dollars and hour and not ask fora raise. I will once again state that the treatment that American Veterans recieve is very unjust. But that has nothing to do with immigrants.

Ohh...as an FYI

This immigrant has also been teaching a former WWII disabled veteran how to use a computer through a program established by my teacher in my technical center. And he has thanked me many times over for re-connecting him with his two sons through e-mails, due to the fact that they live in various states while he's  stuck in an old folk's rehab home. So next time you try to blame immigrants..remember this.

Sincerely,

Zsolt

by idk idk (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 5:48:53 PM
 


As a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.
Pat SmithAs a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.

idk,

You obliviously can not understand my article; I had and still have LEGAL immigrant friends.  And NONE of them are disrespectful with their words or actions like you just were, but I forgive you, besides being Mothers day it is a Sunday.  I just can’t turn my cheek when it comes to paying out money I do not have in the form of very high school taxes and having my brothers and sisters in our military get pee(ed) on by the likes of welfare seeking illegal’s who take jobs away from Americans.  God bless you!

by Pat Smith (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 14 comments) on Sunday, May 11, 2008 at 7:48:01 PM
 


idk
idk idkidk

words cannot explain how ignorant you are

Wow..and you are obviously hallucinating lady

 Even Illegal aliens arent hurting anyone. And if you tell me that they are taking away jobs because they work for less, you're wrong. Most illegal aliens lack education, therefore they are paid less to perform jobs that American citizens wouldn't do anyways.

Secondly, I have not shown you anymore disrespect than what you have shown to illegal immigrants. Obviously you cannot grasp the reality of the hardships any immigrant has to go through to gain citizenship, I've been here 9 and a half years and I'm still in the process. And I'm European. So I don'tblameanyone for tryingto share the American dream with the rest of us, regardless of their denile for paperwork. And if you wanna use the "they're criminals and lazy" excuse, once again you're wrong.

 

Let's cover the criminal part first, there are way more American born people of all backgrounds in our jails and prisons than immigrants. Sure most of that statistic is filled by Hispanic and African American peoples, but thats irrelavent. And the lazy part, well lets just say that any American citizen is way lazier than any immigrant, this is because Americans have the luxury of spare time on their hands. Immigrants don't, they have to work long hours, and hold cruddy jobs. Sure they get paid off the books, but have you ever thought ofthe fact that they dont get tax returns, which means they actually save the gov't money by overpaying the federal social security system. So in actuality, they might be the ones paying for your children in the public school system, as well as for their own.

As far as wellfare goes, legal American citizens compose just a large percentage of wellfare users as immigrants. If not more. Therefore, who areyou to blaim only the immigrants, be fair and blaim your fellow citizens as well you fool.

 I would say god bless you as well...but the big man upstairs would die again trying to bless the dark souls of people like you....instead I suggest you actually educate yourself about a topic before you go running your big mouth about it.

Ohh..and I DONT forgive you....

by idk idk (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Monday, May 12, 2008 at 7:21:25 PM
 

 

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