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April 6, 2008 at 10:12:54

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Hillary Clinton in Eugene, Oregon

by Nezua     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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COVERED THE HILLARY CLINTON campaign stop in Eugene yesterday, at the South Eugene High School. While there was a smattering across a few demographics (there were young people, too), it seemed to my eye to be mostly white women, and older people. (You can't judge by who is behind HRC in the monitor; these people are picked purposely, and often for the very traits I discuss now: sex, age, skin color, and "ethnic" appearance.) However, I did no formal tally, and when the video is made, you can make a judgment for yourself on that aspect.

The truth is, Clinton did her best (even pushing through a tired and "froggy" sounding voice), and her supporters cheered their loudest, and I appreciate her (and their) spirit and ambition and Clinton's manner of laying out her platform. But it was inarguably not a good day for Clinton. She was late, she made everyone wait in the rain longer than we were supposed to, and then inside we waited longer than scheduled. She was heckled about her vote authorizing the Iraq invasion and No Child Left Behind, and about two out of five (I have to check my tape to be sure) questions came to her from Obama supporters. Not to mention the press pass was a cheap xerox instead of a printed and designed document (campaign budget), the gymnasium could have fit, along with nine others the same size (rough guess, probably on the low side, actually) in the venue Obama spoke in when he was here March 21 of this year. I can't help but compare, and I guess in a race like this, that's the point.

It felt a bit sad to me. I can't even count how many times speakers tried to get everyone to cheer louder or longer. At one point, this anchorwoman (in the foto to the right) was telling her cameraman about speaking purposely fast and breathless to give the feeling that the energy in the room was very high. I overheard it, and tried to catch some with the shotgun mic attached to my sound recorder, but pointing one of those at someone (especially a media person) has the result of them quieting down a lot. By the time I had it on and pointed, she was whispering. But truthfully, there was this sort of effort in a few places. Ted Kulongowski, Oregon's governor (who introduced Clinton) seemed absolutely possessed, bobbing and stooping and dancing around trying to rouse the crowd, trying to pass on his frenzy. It was almost as if the campaign/event was competing with the ghost of Obama's recent appearance, which had raised the rafters and blew out the town with buzz.

You will see very plainly from the videotape that many of the people behind Clinton (even though handpicked by the campaign) were definitely not excited, and in fact often looked very bored, didn't clap when they were supposed to, or made tired, perfunctory "golf claps" on the applause lines. I honestly felt embarrassed for the Senator more than once.

I now respect Clinton's 3D supporters much more than her online supporters. Probably because these ones often seemed happy, as well as happy to see me, instead of sneering at me or calling me names. (Then again, I don't wear any MTV gear online and at the HRC rally, I wasn't talking to people about Obama. So who knows!)

As I was walking along the line outside catching audio, one woman stopped me and asked if she could take a picture of me. I laughed and felt a bit strange, as I was not in my "all about me" mental state (I actually leave this behind when I cover events like this). She wanted the pic of the MTV-affiliated news-making cat for her son. "It will be the only part of this he enjoys" she said.

I have to add a correction. This fellow (Fernando Suarez from CBS) was sitting in front of my camera spot, and misquoted the Senator, who actually said (in defense of her campaign hurting the democratic party with attacks that praise McCain, etc) "I don't take any of it personally and I don't take most if it seriously." (As you see, she turned the question around to include herself being attacked, and then said she doesn't take those attacks personally.) It is a small error (he wrote "don't take any of it" in both instances), and the rest of his article jibes, for the most part, with my recollection and camera tape. (Just a note to let you know that on this page, you can sometimes get news even more accurate than CBS. :) Suarez calls her "fiery," and gives the impression that Clinton battered that questioner with righteous truth. This is one of those parts you have to understand is the subjective declaration of the reporter. Just as is the case with some of my post, as well. Such as where I might call her "misleading, though brightly" rather than "fiery." You could see it either way. You can actually see it both ways. I think that would still be accurate.

Ultimately, while I gained some respect for Clinton and her supporters that I did not previously have, what I have confirmed for myself that remains true of Clinton is this type of behavior that anything goes, that she can do or say anything to opponents, that she can tell whatever stories she wants because it is all excused by the chase for power, that its part of the game, and that if you can't take that, you oughtta not be in politics. That is, she defends old schools biznass as-is. In fact, she excuses too much with the same line (almost verbatim) we've been hearing from the current resident of the White House who also subscribes to "Ends justify the means" philosophy. Clinton tells us to "leave it to the history books" to decide right and wrong. But we don't live in history books. We live here, now. I have to say when I hear Bush and Clinton say "leave it to the history books" it sounds to me a lot like "I can do what I want and maybe one day it will seem honorable, because now it sure doesn't." And I'm hard-pressed to think of how this thought ever came to be an acceptable defense for anything.

A sign in the auditorium spelled out "Oregon is Clinton Country" and Hillary looked at it and said "I hope that's true." Maybe so, maybe not. Judging by what I've personally witnessed at Senators Obama's and Clinton's stops in Eugene, I'd say probably not.

But we'll know for sure in May.





As most of you know, the finished video will show up on this page, when it is done. I'm pretty sure that Part 2 of Obama in Eugene will be up first, though, on Monday evening. Check Wednesday, April 13 for the HRC video. All fotos on this page taken with my iPhone.

UPDATE 10:18 PST, Apr 7: This article has been updated to correct Senator Clinton's words from "I don't take any of it personally; I take very little of it seriously." to "I don't take any of it personally and I don't take most of it seriously."

UPDATE, 4:05 PST, Apr 8:In light of conflicting reports about Clinton's Insurance Story, reference to that story, and to Clinton's "not telling the truth" about it has been removed from this article. Original (struck) text can be found here.


Crossposted to The Unapologetic Mexican, Jesus' General, and Culture Kitchen.

 

Nezua is an author and illustrator by trade, a rebel at heart, and a fugitive from the iron claw of ennui. You can find more of his writing at http://www.theunapologeticmexican.org , his videos at http://think.mtv.com/profile/Nezua , and graphic art at http://www.xolagrafik.com

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My writing is based on the belief that we all have something to say. I first started out writing a letter to the editor, and then branched out into blogging.
I am a big believer in fighting for democracy, and am opposed to dynastic rule of the United States. Therefore I blog.

Laura RoslinMy writing is based on the belief that we all have something to say. I first started out writing a letter to the editor, and then branched out into blogging.
I am a big believer in fighting for democracy, and am opposed to dynastic rule of the United States. Therefore I blog.

so there's more to this trip than her lie about Iraq

thank you very much for this report. 

So supporters had to work to try to make the rally seem exciting, work to make the audience seem inspired and enthused.

Wouldn't it be so much better if there was an authentic reason to be inspired and enthused?

 

 

by Laura Roslin (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 32 comments) on Sunday, April 6, 2008 at 12:14:30 PM
 


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John is an educator.
John HaighJohn is an educator.

Jack Smith - Obama supporter?

The post that Jack Smith puts all over the place has to be a false flag operation.

How many people are persuaded by "you must be an idiot."

by John Haigh (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 83 comments) on Monday, April 7, 2008 at 7:24:57 AM
 


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Student in Eugene, OR

Several corrections from event attendee

"While there was a smattering across a few demographics (there were young people, too), it seemed to my eye to be mostly white women, and older people. (You can't judge by who is behind HRC in the monitor; these people are picked purposely, and often for the very traits I discuss now: sex, age, skin color, and "ethnic" appearance.)"

Actually, ANYONE was allowed to sit in the bleachers (and many were surprised). I was expecting the people to be picked from the audience, but several of my friends just wandered in - hence why there was perhaps not as much enthusiasm for HRC as there "should" have been, as you've noted throughout your article. Several people were shepherded in at the last minute to fill space (probably because the audience didn't know that just anyone could sit in the bleachers), but they only filled the top row of the bleachers and were mostly the older white women that you described, ironically.

"The gymnasium could have fit, along with nine others the same size (rough guess, probably on the low side, actually) in the venue Obama spoke in when he was here March 21 of this year"

Actually, Mac Court holds about 10,000 - click here - while the SEHS gym held about 2,500 - click here . Significantly fewer, yes, but fitting nine gyms compared to four gyms is pretty exaggerated (and a fact that could have easily been Googled).

 
I had a couple other issues with your article, but these were the most egregious errors. 

by (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Sunday, April 6, 2008 at 9:47:40 PM
 


Nezua is an author and illustrator by trade, a rebel at heart, and a fugitive from the iron claw of ennui. You can find more of his writing at http://www.theunapologeticmexican.org , his videos at http://think.mtv.com/profile/Nezua , and graphic art at http://www.xolagrafik.com
NezuaNezua is an author and illustrator by trade, a rebel at heart, and a fugitive from the iron claw of ennui. You can find more of his writing at http://www.theunapologeticmexican.org , his videos at http://think.mtv.com/profile/Nezua , and graphic art at http://www.xolagrafik.com

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hi, thanks for your time.

your post is titled "Several corrections from event attendee" but you only list two. so there is one back atcha! :)

i will have to check my tapes to see, but i don't remember the people sitting (not just on any bleachers) directly behind Senator Clinton being "shepharded in" at the last moment to fill space. generally those people are VIPs or picked on purpose, but perhaps they were not. in that case, they definitely should have been in this case! they show people watching the TV what the mood was like! that's important. and if you read the article again, you'll see that  my point was that the people in the bleachers behind clinton were not older white women. anyway, your opinion is welcome (of course), but on this point it is in conflict with my videotape (re the demographics), but i'll show that on the tape i cut. the link for the think.mtv.com page the video will appear is in the post, at the end, i think. you can watch and see if it matches your memory.

regarding your second correction, thanks for the exact stats. no need to get snide about google, i clearly say i'm roughly estimating in the article! but you have a point. i generally write in a more emotional and personal and experiential sense. the journalism angle requires a bit more of a literal quality. i was speaking more by feel in that if you see the obama video i shot when he came, the space is huge. and the vastness of the arena around you and filled with sound no doubt makes the space bigger in proportion than what the allowed seating ratio you offer does, mathematically. however, you are right, i can't expect people to assume t hat. so i'm glad you've added the exact stats. i will probably go around tomorrow and update the articles, thanks.  

 ps, feel free to list all your concerns! no need to hold back. i'll speak to what you bring up.  

finally, interesting that you leave no name with your comment. why is that?

 

  

by Nezua (41 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 92 comments) on Sunday, April 6, 2008 at 10:54:56 PM
 


Nezua is an author and illustrator by trade, a rebel at heart, and a fugitive from the iron claw of ennui. You can find more of his writing at http://www.theunapologeticmexican.org , his videos at http://think.mtv.com/profile/Nezua , and graphic art at http://www.xolagrafik.com
NezuaNezua is an author and illustrator by trade, a rebel at heart, and a fugitive from the iron claw of ennui. You can find more of his writing at http://www.theunapologeticmexican.org , his videos at http://think.mtv.com/profile/Nezua , and graphic art at http://www.xolagrafik.com

update on your "correction"

I put that word it in quotes because checking the tape has proven your words wrong, oh unsigned commenter! White (at least middle-aged) women were pretty obviously the strongest demographic; not the last shepharded in, but very much in force early in the line and in their seats and otherwise. Anyway, "thanks" for your "corrective" spirit, I understand your zeal for your candidate, I do. But if you want to see the tape for yourself, remember to watch my think.mtv.com page linked above. Thanks...

by Nezua (41 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 92 comments) on Monday, April 14, 2008 at 6:23:01 PM
 


John is an educator.
John HaighJohn is an educator.

Jack Smith - Obama provocateur.

Just read "Jack Smith's" second post.

DO NOT BE FOOLED!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hilary is wonderful, Obama is a jerk!

The posts by "Jack Smith" are cleverly calculated to make her look bad.

 

by John Haigh (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 83 comments) on Monday, April 7, 2008 at 7:37:55 AM
 

 

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