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February 7, 2008 at 09:22:12

Headlined on 2/7/08:
Treasury and IRS Agree; Pension Freezing is Legal!

by Mike Folkerth     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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First things first, the Pension Rights Center defines pension freezing as:

“When a company freezes its pension plan, some or all of the employees covered by the plan, stop earning some or all the benefits from the point of the freeze moving forward. Which employees, and which benefits, depends on the details of the specific situation. Companies have great latitude to change their pension plans. However, they cannot take away any benefit that employees have already earned up to the point of the freeze.”

There has been a constant battle over freezing some older workers pension benefits since IBM ran afoul of its senior workers in 1999. That fight may be over as the U.S. Treasury has now issued a ruling that determined that no foul is committed when employers give pension options that delays what is known as “wearaway” (the effects of a freeze), but doesn’t eliminate it.

Like most complex rulings on tax and benefit laws, the jargon and rhetoric could lull an insomniac to sleep. So let’s cut to the quick and shed some light on the subject in the form of plain English language.

The employers (primarily large corporations) want to save money on the pension plans in order to pay higher salaries to the CEO and greater dividends to stockholders. The employee’s on the other hand want to be paid what they thought was promised, and therein lays the problem. The employee’s lost.

Karen Friedman, a policy director at the Pension Rights Center said, "These companies that traditionally did right by workers have given a green light to other companies. This opened the floodgates. It became permissible." Director Friedman has compiled a list of more than 75 companies freezing pensions in the wake of the IBM and Verizon moves.

"Companies are getting out of the pension business. They are backing out of promises to workers," she added.

From the employers standpoint, the original pensions have become too much to bear with people living longer and costs rising. They feel justified in freezing the plans as a matter of fiscal responsibility. 

The law governing pensions also says that pension benefits for executives cannot be more than four times the wage of an average worker. So then would not freezing pensions have an equal negative effect on executives?

There is more than one way to compromise the worker. Compensation for chief executive officers has risen from 40 times an average worker's pay in the 1970s to 367 times average in the years between 2000 and 2006. With pay like this, who needs a pension?

IBM froze its pension plan in early January 2006, yet the retirement for the CEO at age 65, will be greater than $10,000 per day!

So did King George bring these dastardly deeds to bear? Well, not really, even George deserves that the real facts be reported.

In August of 2006, President Bush signed new rules to prod companies into shoring up their pension plans with a tough message for corporate America: "Set aside enough money now."

He further stated, “Americans who spend a lifetime working hard should be confident that their pensions will be there when they retire. Some businesses are not putting away the cash they need to fund the pensions they promised to their workers."

But as we see, the laws on the books that regulate pensions were left to interpretation, and this latest ruling allowed pensions to freeze and corporate executives to bask in the warm glow of profits.

 

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Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics. The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense. Mike's humorous systems of "Mikeronomics" and "Mikemathics" drastically simplify the economic and mathematic formulas commonly used by very smart, but terribly sheltered individuals.

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George Bush: the best reason not to believe in intelligent design.
kanawahGeorge Bush: the best reason not to believe in intelligent design.

Frozen pensions (Stolen pensions)

And the American worker gets raped again.

by kanawah (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 36 comments) on Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 12:46:53 PM
 


Nobody special.
WatchingNobody special.

You're on your own America

Your employer will not take care of you when you are old and neither will social security. You need to get your money into your own private retirement plan that you control. Do not depend on anyone but you.

by Watching (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 251 comments) on Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 1:38:15 PM
 


Nobody special.
WatchingNobody special.

You're on your own America

Your employer will not take care of you when you are old and neither will social security. You need to get your money into your own private retirement plan that you control. Do not depend on anyone but you.

by Watching (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 251 comments) on Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 1:39:58 PM
 


Between jobs, passions are motorcycles, music, and green-tech
truthtruffleBetween jobs, passions are motorcycles, music, and green-tech

All about the money

I think you put enough money on the table, greed becomes a factor. I don't care what institution it is, how high they claim their morals are, how good their accountants are, I think there's always that potential. Government inCLUDED, no blind spots, there.

by truthtruffle (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 90 comments) on Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 1:40:06 PM
 


teacher, poet, musician.......join the growing tsunami: 9/11 TRUTH
CamusRebelteacher, poet, musician.......join the growing tsunami: 9/11 TRUTH

Tapes? We dont need no stinking tapes!

Tapes? We dont need no stinking tapes!

Especially now when the dirty fact itself is admitted.   The heinous act was never in question.  What we want, what we DEMAND and what we will get access to is the TRANSCRIPTS.  When the 9/11 patsies spill their guts, we know who will be implicated.

               How did he give a Saudi Prince's personal cell phone number FROM MEMORY???

                Why were the 3 Saudis and Paki air force head he mentioned all dead within a months time???

                       Its not the torture that is now of paramount importance, it is what was said under torture.  Do not let them distract us!!

by CamusRebel (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 58 comments) on Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:10:30 PM
 


Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

No Doubt

greed is a huge factor. How can a CEO take retirement of $10,000 per week and at the same time freeze the employee's pensions? It really boils down to the fact that profits are more important than people.

Even Social Security raises are based on cooking the books to cheat retirees out of increases. The annual adjustments are based on the reported Consumer Price Index, up or down.

This year the increase in CPI was 2.1% and raised the average Social Security check less than $25.00 per month. But then the CPI does not include food, fuel, or housing. Real inflation is somewhere north of 6% but reporting 2.1% by omitting the greatest costs from the basket of goods that are measured saves the government billions.

Profits are more important than people.

by Mike Folkerth (82 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 410 comments) on Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:10:43 PM
 


Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Watching

I agree 100% with your post. We must quit depending on government and fend for ourselves. The presidential election says legions about the necessity of distancing ourselves from government and to the extent possible, large corporations.

Freezing pensions is small time compared to the hundreds of thousands of people who have lost their jobs permanently to foreign competition.

There are no safe jobs any longer. None that you can count on for the long haul. Take control of your own lives, live simple, live well and live long.

by Mike Folkerth (82 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 410 comments) on Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:16:04 PM
 


August Adams is a CPA and holds a Masters Degree in Psychology. He is an activist striving to create a fair and just world for all.
August AdamsAugust Adams is a CPA and holds a Masters Degree in Psychology. He is an activist striving to create a fair and just world for all.

Excellent Article

It's truly amazing isn't it - CEO's and other exec's are well taken care of.  They even supplement their 401k retirement plans with all kinds of perks.  They have stock options, bonuses and 457 deferred compensation plans that are allowed - encouraged even - to discriminate against the average employee in the company.

 

The contributions that some of these exec's are paid in "deferred compensation" through a 457 bonus structure masks some of the outrageous pay they receive.  They disclose the base paid but not all the hidden loot.

Meanwhile those that did the back braking work day in and day out - spend their retirements barely surviving.

Those at the top of our largest companies have destroyed workers in this country.  They are responsible for the rapid deterioration of the middle class and the outsourcing of America.  They control our government, steal our tax dollars in the form of corporate welfare, and outsource some of our best paying jobs.

Bank of America, to name just one company, is outsourcing much of their "back door operations" to Mumbai India.  Employees with over 20 years of service are being pink slipped.

Bank of America?  Zero Loyalty.

All those MBA's, CPA's and economists - maximizing profits by maximizing human misery.  Have they no conscience?  Maybe as the next round of 30 million college level jobs including finance and accounting positions leave the country in mass - we will realize that we were all contributors to the destruction of our middle class.

We need to fend for ourselves - the problem is, the corporations have the power, the money and the political influence.  It's getting harder and harder to "fend for ourselves".  But fend we must. 

by August Adams (8 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 277 comments) on Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 10:32:58 PM
 


Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

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August

Thank you for the well written comments. I sat next to a young tax auditor on a flight not long ago who informed me that many of the large Corps that he audits (for their benefit) have their U.S. taxes prepared in India.

I asked this young man if this did not concern him from the standpoint of losing his work? He replied that from a young educated persons perspective it seemed like we were coming to the end of the world as we know it today!

Government, corporations, banks and Wall Street, have deservedly lost the respect and confidence of the people. Polls indicate that some 80% of voters believe that corruption is somewhat of a problem in Congress.

And yes, it is difficult to depend on ones self, but those in the middle must get together and depend on one another...and we will!

by Mike Folkerth (82 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 410 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 7:40:00 AM
 


Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."
John Sanchez Jr.Midwesterner, veteran of VietNam era naval service, I still feel an obligation to defend the Constitution against "all enemies, foreign and domestic."

Back in 1985,...

the proprieter of the oil refining company I worked for decided to terminate the pension plan covering the workers at that refinery. He calculated the benefit each worker would be eligible for at age 65 (of course, making assumptions favorable to himself), and proposed to distribute an amount equal to the premium for an annuity that would pay the same amount at the worker's age 65.

Of course, the government of craven George (Bush) the First, eagerly approved the plan, as they were anxious to avoid any unfunded liabilities and also believed that workers should be shafted both thoroughly and frequently.

So the funds were distributed accordingly, and the slithering fungus who had bought the company about a year earlier walked away from the transaction with thirteen million dollars of our money on his hip. After all these years, I find that a thoroughgoing loathing of the scum bag just won't fade away.

Anyway, I suppose the point of all this is that, among corporatists, theft is tradition, amorality is virtue, and of couse we may add the customary up is down, black is white, etc.

by John Sanchez Jr. (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 646 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 8:29:17 AM
 


Mike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Mike FolkerthMike Folkerth is the author of "The Biggest Lie Ever Believed" and is not your run-of-the-mill author of finance and economics.

The former real estate broker, developer, private real estate fund manager, auctioneer, Alaskan bush pilot, restaurateur, U.S. Navy veteran, heavy equipment operator, taxi cab driver, fishing guide, horse packer and few jobs too embarrassing to mention, writes from experience and plain common sense.

Mike’s humorous systems of “Mikeronomics” ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

John

A more recent version of this pension / healthcare transfer of unfunded liability are the automakers.

I have written several articles regarding the United Auto Workers Union accepting responsibility for the medical plans at the former big three. The Union accepted a discounted offer from Ford, GM and Chrysler and will now be totally responsible for future healthcare costs with the automakers "off the hook;" forever!

by Mike Folkerth (82 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 410 comments) on Friday, February 8, 2008 at 8:45:19 AM
 

 

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