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November 30, 2007 at 17:19:19

The Inconvenient Truth About Iran

by Mick Youther     Page 1 of 2 page(s)

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      If you follow the news, I’m sure you have heard that Iran is threatening to “wipe Israel off the map”? It has become a standard line in the Bush Administration’s propaganda campaign for military action against Iran and has been repeated in various forms by presidential candidates from both parties, senators, representatives, neoconservatives and war mongers around the world.

      The “Bush Doctrine” of preemptive war has now metastasized to the point that a nation no longer has to pose even an imaginary threat to the United States to warrant a preemptive military strike. Mr. Bush now seems ready to go to war with Iran, over a verbal [not military] threat to Israel

  • “The threat from Iran is, of course, their stated objective to destroy our strong ally Israel. That’s a threat, a serious threat. It’s a threat to world peace. I made it clear, and I’ll make it clear again, that we will use military might to protect our ally Israel.”--George W. Bush, 3/20/06

 …and in this case--an imaginary verbal threat.

      People who actually understand the Farsi language have pointed out that Ahmadinejad’s statement, which is quoted as “wipe Israel off the map” does not contain the word Israel or the word map, or suggest that anything be wiped off of anywhere. A comparison of translations from a number of sources suggests that a more proper interpretation of what Ahmadinejad said is “The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.” (Jonathan Steele, The Guardian, 6/14/06)

      The Iranian President was not threatening anyone, but was encouraging the Iranian people to be patient, by quoting the [Imam] Ayatollah Khomeini, who rose to prominence when the Iranian people overthrew the American-backed Shah of Iran in 1979.

  • “Ahmadinejad acknowledges that the removal of America's powerful grip on the region via the Zionists may seem unimaginable to some, but reminds the audience that, as Khomeini predicted, other seemingly invincible empires have disappeared and now only exist in history books.”-- Arash Norouzi, ‘Wiped off the Map’--The Rumor of the Century, AmericanChronicle.com, 5/26/07  

     Ahmadinejad put the Khomeini quote into context by associating it with the fall of the American-backed Shah of Iran, the Soviet regime, and now Saddam Hussein’s regime--all of which vanished “from the page of time”, without Iran wiping any nations off the map.

      The mistranslation of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejah’s words into “wipe Israel off the map” sounds like something right out of Vice President Dick Cheney’s propaganda machine; so it is no surprise that The New York Times was one of the first newspapers to print it. (The Times played an important role in spreading the misinformation and disinformation leaked by Cheney’s office to make the case for war with Iraq. Now, even though Times’ editors have expressed the wish that they “had been more aggressive in re-examining the claims [about Iraq] as new evidence emerged--or failed to emerge” (5/26/04); they are doing the same thing again--with Iran.)

      Another thing that every American should know about Iranian President, Mamoud Ahmadinejad:

  • “… Ahmadinejad is a ceremonial president. …[H]e is not commander-in-chief of the armed forces. He can’t order anybody to kill anybody. He can’t launch a war. He can’t launch missiles. Those powers are vested in the Supreme Jurisprudent, the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.  …[T]he American right’s fascination with him is entirely misplaced, and it’s because he’s a quirky character and he has objectionable views, and so it’s easy to use him to demonize Iran.”--Middle East Analyst and Historian Juan Cole, Democracy Now (10/23/07)

     So, why isn’t the American Press reporting what Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has to say? Despite having made some strong statements toward Israel in the past, Khamenei responded to the uproar over Ahmadinejad’s statement:

  • “We have no problem with the world. We are not a threat whatsoever to the world and the world knows it. …We will never start a war. We have no intention of going to war with any government.”--Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei, Islamic Republic of Iran News Network Television, 6/4/06

      The Bush Administration can’t have the American people hearing peaceful talk like that coming from the nation they have labeled “the number one threat to world peace”. That is why the only portion of Khamenei’s speech that was widely reported in the U.S. is the part when he threatened to disrupt the flow of energy through the region. The reports don’t usually bother to mention that Khamenei was warning what might occur--IF, and only if, the United States attacked Iran.

      The Iranian government aided the U.S. in Afghanistan, offered to aid flyers downed in the Iraq War, and have refrained from sending forces into Iraq. The majority of foreign fighters in Iraq come from Saudi Arabia and Libya--not Iran (CNN, 11/23/07) I do not believe that any Iranian fighters have been found inside Iraq.

      In the spring of 2003, Iran send a message to the U.S. State Department offering to submit to tighter control by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in exchange for access to peaceful nuclear technology. Iran also offered to end its support of Palestinian opposition groups and to apply pressure on those groups to end violence against civilians. The Bush Administration told the State Department to ignore Iran’s proposals.

      In the Fall of 2003, Iran agreed to suspend its uranium enrichment program and pursue talks with America and European nations, but the Bush Administration refused to join the talks. Since then, President Ahmadinejad has sent two letters to the Bush Administration in an attempt to open a dialog and resolve the differences between Iran and the United States. There was no reply from the Bush Administration.

     Iran is not a threat to America, any more than Iraq was; but the Bush Administration and its neoconservative cheerleaders seem determined to start a war with Iran before they leave office.

Freedom Watch, the White House front group that already spent $15 million promoting Mr. Bush’s “surge”, is now employing focus groups to determine the best way to sell a war with Iran to the American people (Mother Jones, Nov. 2007).  

      So, the next time you see a news report about Iran that describes the situation as the “Nuclear Showdown” and portrays Iranian President Ahmadinejad as the new Hitler with his finger on the nuclear trigger--please keep in mind that Iran has no nuclear weapons and no missiles capable of reaching the United States. In the “showdown” between the U.S and Iran; the U.S. is the only one with an unstable leader, armed with nuclear weapons.

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Mick Youther is an American citizen, an independent voter, a veteran, a parent, a Christian, a scientist, a writer, and all-around nice guy who has been aroused from a comfortable apathy by the high crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush Administration.

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Conservative prolife anti-death penalty tree hugger. Believe that less government is good government, government cannot solve anyone's personal problems, the government taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people is a crime, and that people should take responsibility for their own lives.
Mad JayhawkConservative prolife anti-death penalty tree hugger. Believe that less government is good government, government cannot solve anyone's personal problems, the government taking money from one group of people and giving it to another group of people is a crime, and that people should take responsibility for their own lives.

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Iran is not a friend of the US or its allies regardless who is or who is not in charge.  Iran is developing nuclear capabilities.  Iran has missles that can or will be able to reach Isreal and/or most of Europe.  The fact that European countries are concerned about Iran, not just the US, tells us something that should be pretty obvious to most thinking people: a hostile Iran armed with missles with nuclear warheads is not a good thing.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is insane.

A lot of countries and individuals within those countries do not understand the US.  They get impressions about our society and our government from the media and informational outlets like films that some times are the exact opposite of what the reality in the US really is.  So when an Iranian leader or citizen looks at his TV and sees a couple thousand people carrying anti-Bush or anti-war signs around or hear our congressmen threaten President Bush with impeachment if he bombs Iran they might get a false impression that could lead to disastrous consequences for their country.  There should be a footnote at the bottom of each screen that says that these people represent a tiny fraction of the American people or that this congressman is a loony bird.  Remember that the media in most of these countries isn't exactly free.  

In dealing with a country like Iran that has significant groups within it that oppose their leadership, Bush is playing to the audience.  He did the same with Iraq before the war.  The ordinary Iranian probably does not want to have the US level its cities in the name of Islamic purity and will take action against their own government to prevent that from happening.  The Iranian military probably does not to confront US military might because they saw what happened to the 4th or 5th largest army in the world when they did.  These things have to have an influence on internal Iranian politics.  Sanctions are causing financial problems in Iran and the more problems they cause the more unhappy the people will be and the government of Iran will eventually have to take action, hopefully, to act more peacefully.   There is a subtle game being played here.  If Bush keeps pushing, if the Europeans keep pushing, and if internal players keep pushing, maybe the Iranian leadership will change its ways.  It has to a degree in Iraq I believe but we really haven't heard to much about that since the MSM seems to have put a news blackout on Iraqi news because most of it is good.

Bush and Europe, hopefully with Russia and China's help, need to keep up the pressure on the Iranians to end their militaristic and terror supporting ways.  Having anti-war/Bush people running around opposing a war that probably won't happen is not helpful.  Bush was pushing Saddam and the Baathists but Saddam thought that he could get free pass by lying about WMD and playing to (and sometimes paying off) the anti-war crowd in the US and in Europe and look where it got him and his country.  He probably thought that they had more influence than they really do.

Imagine how things would change in the middle east if we could peacefully eliminate or reduce the support terrorist organizations are getting from one of their biggest benefactors (Iraq was one of them while Saddam was in power).   Look how things have changed in Iraq since Iran has reduced or eliminated support of terrorists in Iraq.

The anti-war/Bush people should protest China and Russia's lack of help with dealing with Iran.  That would help our country more than protesting a war that hasn't started.  

Of course when you see anti-war/Bush groups protesting a war that hasn't even started it makes you wonder what is motivating and who is financing these people.   Are some of these people on the Iranian payroll and just acting like anti-war/Bush people?

by Mad Jayhawk (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 199 comments) on Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 10:30:11 AM
 


A well traveled and slightly worse for wear 72 year old Englishman; widower, several children and grandchildren and a penchant for wondering 'what is the hidden agenda' in almost everything I read. A keen interest in American culture (an oxymoron?) (JOKE!) and politics and an international world view, except where I haven't got first hand experience of the parts of the world I have not visited. Editor of some books about the Qur'an and Islam. Teacher of English in little known countries like Mau...

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ibrahim turnerA well traveled and slightly worse for wear 72 year old Englishman; widower, several children and grandchildren and a penchant for wondering 'what is the hidden agenda' in almost everything I read. A keen interest in American culture (an oxymoron?) (JOKE!) and politics and an international world view, except where I haven't got first hand experience of the parts of the world I have not visited. Editor of some books about the Qur'an and Islam. Teacher of English in little known countries like Mau...

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A distinctly different view

"The ordinary Iranian probably does not want to have the US level its cities in the name of Islamic purity and will take action against their own government to prevent that from happening.

Just like the ordinary American will take action against their own government to prevent a war with Iran from happening?

As far as I can see, nobody is doing anything significant in America to prevent a war with Iran, just like they did not do anything significant to stop the war on Iraq, in fact the media are repeating the modus operandi of the run up to the Iraq war.

So do you think that people in these countries, that have this misguided view of America, can actually do anything against entrenched governments, with the propaganda that is daily spewed onto them from both sides, including America.

I remember when I was in the Navy, I was told about the propaganda being fed to the Russian people, and looked at their papers and magazines, and lo and behold, it was true. But I soon realized that the exact same thing was happening in the west too, albeit a little more sophisticated, because, after all, in a democracy, you have to give people the illusion that they are free.

A popular quote from the sixties.

Russian newspapers 'Pravda' and 'Izvetzia' meaning 'truth' and news'.

There is no news in the 'truth' and there is no truth in the 'news'.

I do not know which American newspapers or media that qualify for that 'honour'.

'All the news that is fit to print', or 'fair and balanced' fox news, or the Washington Post?

by ibrahim turner (21 articles, 9 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 145 comments) on Saturday, December 1, 2007 at 11:13:47 AM
 


Shahid Pradhan is a Social Activist working against injustice.
Shahid PradhanShahid Pradhan is a Social Activist working against injustice.

Need to understand Iran

Now the complete world knows about the American Politicians and the American public. they very well understand that Americans like "Mad Jayhawk" are a rare minority. These guys are extraordinarily vocal and have influenced the press and the politicians of Americans. They for the love for Israel are ready to sacrifice American lives and Money. Majority of the Americans are peace loving and don’t want War. Which is being imposed on them by the Zionist. 
They need to visit and Iran or at least study the war they fought with Iraq. http://www.iranchamber.com/history/iran_iraq_war/iran_iraq_war1.php
Once they are attacked they will reply to them as strong as they can and never to submit to the Americans and the Israeli Military. If they will not be able to beat the American army they will surely humiliate it that much. That the American military will surely lose it Super Power status.
Iranian are ready to die but will not forsake the honor. This was seen in Iran-Iraq war. Iraq used chemical weapons against the Iranian. But use of chemical weapons (supplied by the US) did not deter the Iranian’s. They never pleaded to the UN for a cease fire on the contrary it was Saddam’s army which was pleading the world for a cease fire.
The Iranian’s don’t want War. They want to live in peace with the world. After the Islamic revolution they have not initiated an attack on any country. Islam does not allow preemptive wars. But if attacked it does not allow it followers to surrender.
This was the Hero of Karabala, Imam Hussein, Grand Son of Prophet of Islam said “Death is better then Life of Disgrace“

by Shahid Pradhan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Sunday, December 2, 2007 at 6:17:05 AM
 

 

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