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April 29, 2008 at 11:43:13

Clinton's Threat to "Obliterate" Iran

by Michael Collins     Page 1 of 3 page(s)

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Is that Tough Enough?

Michael Collins
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Washington, D.C.

Last week, Hillary Clinton proved that reason is on holiday. When asked how she would react to an Iranian nuclear attack on Israel, Clinton said that she would "obliterate" Iran. She didn't say it in a rage. She didn't say it in a state of nervous exhaustion. She appeared calm and composed. Her voice didn't waiver at all as she spoke these words on "Good Morning America:"

Well, the question was, if Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel, what would our response be? I want the Iranians to know that if I am president, we will attack Iran. And I want them to understand that. Because it does mean that they have to look very carefully at their society. Because whatever stage of development they might be in their nuclear weapons program, in the next 10 years during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them. Los Angeles Times Apr. 24, 2008 YouTube (at 2:29)

For decades it's been an unspoken rule that the president and others in key leadership positions avoid open threats of nuclear attack. The United States and the Soviet Union both had enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world hundreds of times over. This lead to a Cold War - a series of proxy wars and other encounters made necessary by the "mutually assured destruction" that would follow a serious exchange of nuclear weapons.

Yet Clinton told the Mullahs in charge of Iran to take a good look at their society since she'd evaporate it if they launched a nuclear attack on Israel.

Iran does not have nuclear weapons now and may not until 2015 according to the November 2007 National Intelligence Estimate.

"We judge with high confidence that Iran will not be technically capable of producing and reprocessing enough plutonium for a weapon before about 2015." National Intelligence Estimate Nov. 2007

What's Her Point?

Does Clinton want Iran to develop nuclear weapons? That may seem like an absurd question. But it's inspired by her threatening statement. Iran had a nuclear weapons program, halted it, and now appears to be headed in that direction again. Threatening to "obliterate them," all 71 million Iranians, offers up ample incentive, along with propaganda cover, for the Mullahs in charge to move forward with these weapons of mass destruction.

Does Clinton want to protect Israel? Statements that prod the Iranians to move from reticence to action on any nuclear weapons development are not favorable to Israel in any conceivable way. As far as protection goes, Israel has its own version of assured destruction. Estimates of their nuclear stockpile range from 70 to 400 warheads. That's enough to "obliterate" Iran. It's a credible deterrence, it would seem, unless the Mullahs all want to die. Clinton's proposed response would simply entail bombing the rubble.

Does Clinton want to look "tough enough" to be President? What's her standard? Have we had any presidents who threatened to totally obliterate any nation with or without nuclear weapons? The use of these weapons has been considered and even suggested on occasion, but it's difficult to find threatening statements before the fact. Clinton took it to a new level in this outburst.

On this specific question, President Bush was uncharacteristically restrained when Wolfe Blitzer asked how he'd respond if Israel were "attacked by the Iranians:"

Bush: "Well, you know, I hope it doesn't happen. But, you know, you're asking me to answer a hypothetical. My answer is, and they've got to understand, that we will support Israel if Iran attacks them." CNN Dec. 23, 2007

Clinton sounds tougher than Bush.

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Kathlyn Stone is a Minnesota-based writer covering science and medicine, health care and related policies. She publishes www.fleshandstone.net, a health and science news site.
Kathlyn StoneKathlyn Stone is a Minnesota-based writer covering science and medicine, health care and related policies. She publishes www.fleshandstone.net, a health and science news site.

Bottom line

Clinton thinks her tough talk makes her "electable."

The sad thing is, we really don't know. Based on recent history, it might, unless someone can break through all the screeching and lies with a better alternative.

by Kathlyn Stone (33 articles, 200 quicklinks, 19 diaries, 551 comments) on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 at 12:17:41 PM
 


August Adams is a CPA and holds a Masters Degree in Psychology. He is an activist striving to create a fair and just world for all.
August AdamsAugust Adams is a CPA and holds a Masters Degree in Psychology. He is an activist striving to create a fair and just world for all.

Independent Media

And the examination by our Big Media - Zip.

"We would be able to totally obliterate them", - lucky US. 

No wonder the world hates us, when we're "so good". 

by August Adams (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 372 comments) on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 at 12:55:08 PM
 


Michael Collins is a writer who focuses on clean elections and voting rights. See this summary of his articles plus Election 2004: The Urban Legend and groundbreaking research and commentary in "" His web site, Election Fraud News & The Money Party, offers a collection of resources and commentary on critical issues facing the country.
Michael CollinsMichael Collins is a writer who focuses on clean elections and voting rights. See this summary of his articles plus Election 2004: The Urban Legend and groundbreaking research and commentary in "" His web site, Election Fraud News & The Money Party, offers a collection of resources and commentary on critical issues facing the country.

They're so obvious

... our mainstream media.  They came out proudly at the Philadelphia debate but found out quickly that only 16% of the country has any respect for them.  I liked the boos directed at that news bot during the debate.  It's the follow up to the Pauli's chasing Hannity down the street yelling at him.  Pretty soon the network news fibbers will only be able to appear in public at other news venues since venturing out represents too much opportunity for sincere, heart felt feedback;)

by Michael Collins (79 articles, 11 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 283 comments) on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 1:00:49 AM
 


Kathlyn Stone is a Minnesota-based writer covering science and medicine, health care and related policies. She publishes www.fleshandstone.net, a health and science news site.
Kathlyn StoneKathlyn Stone is a Minnesota-based writer covering science and medicine, health care and related policies. She publishes www.fleshandstone.net, a health and science news site.

This is the worst part, IMO:

"I want the Iranians to know that if I am president, we will attack Iran."

It sounds like she already has her plans drawn up!

by Kathlyn Stone (33 articles, 200 quicklinks, 19 diaries, 551 comments) on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 at 4:08:01 PM
 


Michael Collins is a writer who focuses on clean elections and voting rights. See this summary of his articles plus Election 2004: The Urban Legend and groundbreaking research and commentary in "" His web site, Election Fraud News & The Money Party, offers a collection of resources and commentary on critical issues facing the country.
Michael CollinsMichael Collins is a writer who focuses on clean elections and voting rights. See this summary of his articles plus Election 2004: The Urban Legend and groundbreaking research and commentary in "" His web site, Election Fraud News & The Money Party, offers a collection of resources and commentary on critical issues facing the country.

That's the best question and point

We'd do what they'll probably do: develop a method of protecting ourselves. How strange it must be to have threats like that coming your way. Imagine an intelligent worldly Iranian having a Holocaust denier for president and a US presidential candidate (of the "left") threatening to blow Iran off the map. That's beyond cruel. But Hillary doesn't care. She has her "task" and she'll "do everything" she can to fulfill it. Very creepy stuff. But Rev. Wright is so much more pertinent.

by Michael Collins (79 articles, 11 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 283 comments) on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 12:57:50 AM
 


I am a libertarian-minded person who wants to see our country return to a constitutional form of federal government. I think our elected leaders should be sanctioned for not respecting the supreme law of the land.
DooglioI am a libertarian-minded person who wants to see our country return to a constitutional form of federal government. I think our elected leaders should be sanctioned for not respecting the supreme law of the land.

What we tend to forget...

...is Ron Paul's warning about imminent U.S. invasion of Iran. He's been saying for years now that we are going to invade them. I don't care if the president is Democrat or Repulican; the U.S. Dollar is at stake, so we will move to stop the Iranian Oil Bourse.

From www.energybulletin.net/12125.html : "The Iranian government has finally developed the ultimate 'nuclear' weapon that can swiftly destroy the financial system underpinning the American Empire. That weapon is the Iranian Oil Bourse slated to open in March 2006. It will be based on a euro-oil-trading mechanism that naturally implies payment for oil in Euro. In economic terms, this represents a much greater threat to the hegemony of the dollar than Saddam's, because it will allow anyone willing either to buy or to sell oil for Euro to transact on the exchange, thus circumventing the U.S. dollar altogether. If so, then it is likely that almost everyone will eagerly adopt this euro oil system."

So Hillary's comments really don't surprise me in the least. Iran does not pose a threat to anyone, yet the government controlled corporate media continues to beat the war drums. The only Democrat candidates that actually questioned the war in Iraq and the supposed threat of Iran were Kuccinich and Gravel, and you can see they are no longer in the race. On the Repub side Ron Paul was the *only* candidate to question the war and demand our immediate withdrawl, and he's always said Iran poses absolutely no threat to us, nor to Isreal.

by Dooglio (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 30 comments) on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 9:56:49 AM
 


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A Nod to Israel

Hillary's answer to the question in question is more clearly understood

in the context of her--and every other candidate's--need to reassure the Zionists that America's first and foremost purpose is to be Israel's perpetual benefactor and bodyguard. even at the expense of our own existence. No one running for public office in America can succeed if he'she does not meet the approval of Israel's neo-cons: the Zionist faction. These fanatics have complete control of America's foreign policy, and toadying up to them may not ensure the former front-runner's victory 100%, but deals have been struck and must be honored. That's The Way Its Done. 

by Randje Mitchell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 47 comments) on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 12:30:05 PM
 


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Q&A

Has anyone asked her follow up questions?

If "intelligence" indicated the possibility of an Iranian nuclear attack on Israel, would she preemptively strike with nuclear weapons?

If Israel attacked Iran with nuclear weapons, what would she do?

by Bernard (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 49 comments) on Thursday, May 1, 2008 at 2:27:21 AM
 

 

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