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September 14, 2007 at 15:38:40

Move On attacks general Petraeus.

by Michael Chavers     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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 My position against the occupation of Iraq is that it was the wrong war at the wrong time.  It was an adventurous endeavor taken on by men with big ideology and small brains.

Attacking general Petraeus is not a wise idea.  First of all soldiers have a duty to obey all lawful orders without question.  He was ordered into Iraq to do a job by the commander in chief.  He did not start this war nor am I aware of the roll he had in the build up to it.  It has been brought up in the media that he has presidential aspirations.  I also believe that he slanted his testimony for this administration.

America has never been so divided and in order to heal and unite a country it is not a wise idea to start a name calling campaign on our soldiers, however clever Petraeus/ Betray us was.

This president has been hiding behind general Petraeus for the last 6 months still the Democrats cower in the corner and say there is nothing they can do to end this war.

What the Democrats need to assert is that Bush has never had a plan in Iraq.  He listened to his cabal of cretins to get into this war who said that as soon as Saddam was removed from power that the people would shower us with flowers.  Well they have showered us alright, showered us with shrapnel and endless conflict.

Now Petraeus to his credit did tell the senators when asked that he didn’t know if being in Iraq will make America safer.  Anyone with the eyes to hear and ears to listen knows that this war is the most important recruiting tool al-Queda could have.

Now we are at a stalemate with no end in sight so the Democrats had better demand from the president to tell us why we are in Iraq and what the strategy for ending this senseless war is.  They better use this stick to beat the Republican candidates who will run for office in 2008.  The more we get the president to get out from behind the Petraeus shield and talk strategy the more trouble he will have explaining it.

He has already begun the new spin slogan we got to have “Sustainable security”.  What the hell is that and with the amount of troops that we have in Iraq it is impossible.  He will borrow untold billions from the Chinese and raise the national debt to the Ronald Regan levels.   He will use this tactic until he is out of office in 2009 and kill another thousand troops to sustain his incompetence.

He says that the surge is working and we will be able to bring some troops home now.  Well he has to bring some home because he doesn’t have any more troops and the troops he has deployed are nearing the completion of their sentence.

I suggest to the Democrats that if you don’t have the courage to end the funding of this war, that you put some painful earmarks into the war funding bills.  Start to repeal some of the tax breaks or add some new taxes to fund the war.  I like the war profiteer tax, or maybe the record fuel profit tax.

I am sure with some suggestions from the choir we could have many suggestions on what kind of new taxes could be raised so that our grandchildren won’t have to pay for Bush’s misadventure in Iraq.

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MoveOn Attacks

Maybe we need to set a fire under the bottoms of potential wannbe Democratic Presidents, and MoveOn can do it. We are tired of the Bush-Clinton-Bush (possible Clinton) monopoly on our governmental politics. If the General was wise, he would declare the TRUTH, and then we might be able to proceed with Impeachment of this sitting Mad Man in the White House.

by Loren (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 5 comments) on Friday, September 14, 2007 at 5:06:42 PM
 


Recently returned from military service in Iraq. I am a Mormon from Utah. I have served on a city council and as a delegate to Republican county and state conventions. My wife and I have 5 children.
Frank StaheliRecently returned from military service in Iraq. I am a Mormon from Utah. I have served on a city council and as a delegate to Republican county and state conventions. My wife and I have 5 children.

The Problem is The Establishment

I agree with the previous comment. It's not just Bush's fault. There is a thread of such intrigue going back through the previous several US administrations that has caused much of the dismay and hatred of America. The common thread--the Council on Foreign Relations, the International Monetary Fund, and other facets of the Establishment. McCain-Feingold campaign finance laws have helped to ensure that the Establishment retains its stranglehold over American politics and foreign policy.

I have never voted for a Bush. Neither have I voted for a Clinton. Nor will I. That would be a travesty to have Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton as our last 4 presidents. How stupid do the Establishmentarians think we are? Hopefully we aren't as stupid as they think. Vote for the only real break with the establishment stranglehold--vote Ron Paul for President.

by Frank Staheli (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 27 comments) on Saturday, September 15, 2007 at 9:21:06 AM
 


George Bush: the best reason not to believe in intelligent design.
kanawahGeorge Bush: the best reason not to believe in intelligent design.

General Betrayus

I agree with move on, the beneral has betrayed us.

My first chioce for president is Gore, then Edwards.

 Any way it goes, I will vote for the democrat.  Another round of the neoCONs will totally destroy our nation, and possibly the world.

by kanawah (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 62 comments) on Saturday, September 15, 2007 at 11:31:09 AM
 


Raging Granny, ticked off at this corrupt, lying, cheating administration since Dec 12, 2000. I'll get over it when Chicken george is sent back to the Pig Farm.
magginkatRaging Granny, ticked off at this corrupt, lying, cheating administration since Dec 12, 2000. I'll get over it when Chicken george is sent back to the Pig Farm.

ATTN: Author of this article

Quoting you: "First of all soldiers have a duty to obey all lawful orders without question."

The Uniform code of Military Justice does not require any military member to follow an order without question.   As a matter of fact it specifically tells Military members that they are not to commit a criminal act by following an order that they know to be illegal.

The war was illegal from the start.  The top military brass should have refused, (and could have done so legally), to conduct a strike on Iraq.   Yep..... they might have been court martialed but I doubt that would have happened & even if it had I believe they would have been vindicated in short order once that people realized lies were being told to gain support for this illegal & illicit war.

As for the Move-on.org ad..........it was telling the truth.  Bravo for them.   General BeTrayUS ,  Chicken George, and multiple deferrments Cheney are the liars who committed multiple crimes by lying this country into a war and then seizing near dictatorial powers.  They are the ones who committed treason and it should be shouted from the roof tops at every opportunity.

Hooray for Move-On.org.   Keep up the good work. 

 

by magginkat (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 15 comments) on Saturday, September 15, 2007 at 12:24:00 PM
 

 

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