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April 30, 2006 at 23:00:00
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"We had our Hitler, now you have yours."
What follows is a comparison between Hitler’s rise to dictatorial power in 1930’s Germany and the Bush administration’s rise to dictatorial power in America today, focusing on the role “religion” and “patriotism” played in both. It is based largely on the psychological study of Hitler commissioned by the United States government during WWII and undertaken by a team of people including psychologist Walter C. Langer in 1942-43. It was published in 1972 as a book titled "The Mind of Adolf Hitler" by Walter C. Langer.
(L.) indicates Langer’s words, (H.) indicates Hitler’s words.
It has been deemed unacceptable, even laughable to talk about or write about G.W. Bush’s administration as being like that of Adolf Hitler. But now, with Bush’s claims to extraordinary “war times” powers -- claims which have, alas, gone largely unchallenged by Congress and todays media -- coupled with his description of Iran’s leader as being “like Hitler” and the fact that nearly identical measures are being used by this administration [parroted by a still largely stenographic press] to fear-monger America's people into war against Iran that were used to fear-monger the public into supporting war against Iraq, perhaps the public should be given a glimpse of how the good people of Germany allowed Hitler to become, over time, the monster he became.
It is interesting to note that many of the people who are most convinced of the truth of the premise that Bush is like Hitler and America is like Germany was in the 1930’s are people who lived in Germany while Hitler was in power. Indeed, a gentleman who grew up in Germany under Hitler and emigrated to America following WWII moved back to Europe last year. He said he was leaving because what is going on now in America is what he had experienced in Germany when he was a kid and he could not bear to stay and see that sort of thing happen in America. He said he had been too young to be able to help try to stop Hitler in Germany, and he is too old to be able to help stop Bush’s takeover in America. He said he would pray for us. link
I include here an excerpt of the writing of just one person who lived under Hitler during the Holocaust:"
“So why, now, when I hear GWB's speeches, do I think of Hitler? Why have I drawn a parallel between the Nazis and the present administration? Just one small reason -the phrase 'Never forget'. Never let this happen again. It is better to question our government - because it really can happen here - than to ignore the possibility.
“So far, I've seen nothing to eliminate the possibility that Bush is on the same course as Hitler. And I've seen far too many analogies to dismiss the possibility. The propaganda. The lies. The rhetoric. The nationalism. The flag waving. The pretext of 'preventive war'. The flaunting of international law and international standards of justice. The disappearances of 'undesirable' aliens. The threats against protesters. The invasion of a non-threatening sovereign nation. The occupation of a hostile country. The promises of prosperity and security. The spying on ordinary citizens. The incitement to spy on one's neighbors -and report them to the government. The arrogant triumphant pride in military conquest. The honoring of soldiers. The tributes to 'fallen warriors. The diversion of money to the military. The demonization of government appointed 'enemies'. The establishment of 'Homeland Security'. The dehumanization of 'foreigners'. The total lack of interest in the victims of government policy. The incarceration of the poor and mentally ill. The growing prosperity from military ventures. The illusion of 'goodness' and primacy. The new einsatzgrupen forces. Assassination teams. Closed extralegal internment camps. The militarization of domestic police. Media blackout of non-approved issues. Blacklisting of protesters - including the no-fly lists and photographing dissenters at rallies…”
Nevertheless, it is certainly true that George Bush is not Adolf Hitler. He has initiated an illegal war of aggression and, to me, his refusal to disallow torture and his hypocritical policy of “extraordinary rendition” comes uncomfortably close to the concept of deliberate extermination, but the wars he has initiated have not (yet) been responsible for the deaths of anywhere near the fifty million people who died in World War II world-wide.
I am sure it is not, now, Bush’s wish to commit murder in those kinds of numbers. But, he confided to many of his friends that he felt God wanted him to be president. He has also reportedly said both that God speaks to him and God speaks through him. And that God told him to “strike Saddam.” He, like Hitler, has an absolute belief in what he perceives to be his “mission,” and nothing, including whatever number of deaths that perceived “mission” might entail seems likely to deter him from wherever he believes his “path” leads him. He is “resolute.” He will not be swayed from the path “God” has set him upon.
“Hitler’s strongest point is, perhaps, his firm belief in his mission and, in public, the complete dedication of his life to its fulfillment.” (L. 74.)
Hitler, too, believed God was behind him. “Hitler believes he has been sent to Germany by Providence and that he has a particular mission to perform…He has been chosen to redeem the German people and reshape Europe.” (L. p. 35). “I carry out the commands that Providence has laid upon me.” (H. p. 36). Hitler believed himself to be an “Immortal Hitler chosen by God to be the New Deliverer of Germany and the Founder of a new social order for the world.” (L. p. 42.) “Providence had given him the “spark” that transformed him overnight. It was now his mission to transform the remainder of the German people by winning them to his view of life and the New Order.” (L. p. 219.)
We know the desire of the neocons is absolute control of the Middle East, and the world. We know Iraq was only the first of many wars they believe might need to be fought in order to accomplish that goal. Indeed, in the “New Yorker” Sy Hersch has just written that Bush’s real obsession is not Iraq, but Iran. In fact it is alleged in the recently released book Cobra II that Dick Cheney undermined security plans for Iraq utilizing the 300,000 strong Iraqi Army at least in part because he was intent on invading Iran as well as Syria once we had subdued Iraq. A strong Iraqi security force might have taken exception to yet more upheaval in the Middle East.
Even if it is not Bush’s wish that war spread throughout the Middle East, by his illegal invasion of Iraq against the will of the overwhelming majority of the people of the world and against the advice of experts on that region, exacerbated by the incompetence of the occupation of Iraq and even Afghanistan, Bush has fomented such hatred that his imperial goals notwithstanding, the war he initiated under false pretenses may be only the beginning of the violence. He may well have, unwittingly or otherwise, initiated a war destined to be the beginning of multiple wars which will kill massive numbers of people and impoverish millions of others. And, because Bush has not dealt with Kim Jong Il, North Korea’s megalomaniac, Kim could conceivably begin a nuclear war as well.
The idea of more or less never ending war is a Fascist idea. As Mussolini himself said, "And above all, Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace. . . . War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the people who have the courage to meet it."
Compare that to what a real Republican war hero, Dwight Eisenhower, said at a press conference in 1954: “I don’t believe there is such a thing as a preventive war, and I would not seriously listen to anyone who came and talked to me about such a thing.” 
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911 was not carried out by a bunch of arabic cave men. there are many web sites to view if you can not figure this out for your self. by subject-x (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 8:21:17 AM  (0+)
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Reply: The People Behind 9/11.
I got a lot of flack from readers who do not believe bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. For my purposes, which is pointing out how the people can be led to accept unthinkable evil by ruthless leaders, the official version of what happened on 9/11 will suffice. There are plenty of people researching and writing about what happened on 9/11 and who was behind it. I am just not one of them. I feel getting involved in another endless "Kennedy assassination" type theory will simply further confuse the points I am trying to make. That does not mean I dismiss those speculations. Lonna Gooden VanHorn by Lonna Gooden VanHorn (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 10:17:08 AM (0+)
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Nazi faces in Washington
‘I don’t need any approval for my actions. By the will of the German people I am a supreme authority and I can and will implement any means necessary to protect Germany from any enemies. I thus ordered to shoot with no mercy…’ Adolph Hitler in his speech in 1933 after the Night of Long Knifes ‘As a Commander – in – Chief I am authorized by our Constitution to implement any means necessary to protect Americans from terrorism..’ George W. Bush, 2006 I am sure there will be people (if anyone reads this) which will accuse me of distortion; they will say that Hitler did not say it exactly that way and George also did not say those exact words in that exact order or something like that. I am not arguing about this. But I insist that the spirit and sense of those two goons are in these very words, that those words were spoken by them in that exact order or not and that is how the people should understand that they are dealing with the stunning similarity. Even in their appearances Bush and Hitler are remarkably similar; same phony looks, same ignorance, same stupidity, same rhetoric, same total disregard for the human life. In fact der Fuhrer would easily pass for George in the White House the same way Ernst Kaltenbrunner, the Gestapo Chief would easily pass for Mike Chertoff. Notorious Kalten, the exterminator of Jews would surely feel himself most comfortable in the War Council which he would join together with Joe Lieberman in case such Council is ever established. A Polish writer once said, "Fascism is by no means a German thing but Germans were classics in it." That means that Germans were the best; they established references and standards, a textbook approach which is now fully implemented by the Bush cabal. But it is not an approach that reveals them. It is who they are. The faces of our leaders disclose who they are the same way the faces of the Nazis revealed to the world their real inner selves. Most of these people, starting from George himself are degenerates. They can either bark or bite; there is nothing else they are capable of. Just one glance at George patting a girl or Condi Rice talking peace makes a normal person sick. Cheney makes you puke. Homeland SS Chief Chertoff and AG Gonzales are really a Pair From Hell which only can be beaten if they are joined by Paul Wolfowitz, looking as if he came off some 19th- Century caricature. As for Rumsfeld anyone who had ever seen Hess in Shpandau when he was still alive would undoubtedly notice the similarity. Same degenerate look, the look without looking.. The people of the US unfortunately can argue that if we look at the faces of our leaders through the history we would surely notice the same degenerative pattern: Nixon, Reagan, Harding, Cleveland, you name it. In fact, the majority of the people in power in the US were truly repugnant. But… there never was until now that so many of them were in power at the same time. And that is what counts. Hitler and Nazis were not about the Jews. They were not about Germans either. Hitler was put to power by the powerful corporations to change the world according to their perception of how it was to be run. George W does the same. He IS the same. It will end the same way- in fire and destruction. But if there is still a hint of self-preservation in our minds we should not want to end as 10mln Germans ended- dead. The same as many of us, poor bastards, they rejoiced seeing their leader doing his job as he saw fit. And it was too late for them. It is not too late for us. But the clock is ticking. It is ticking mighty fast. P.S. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/branfman.php?articleid=8444 In the link above the antiwar.com comments on the new article by Charles Krauthammer on how justifiable it would be to torture people. Needless to say that Charles Krauthammer resembles Goebbels both in his writings and in his appearance. Anyone who had seen his picture can make a comparison. I am sure Charles K is dreaming to become George's ReichsMinister of Propaganda and Gauleiter of DC. Cursed be the malicious because they know what they are doing. PPS May 2, 2006 Well, I published that on my Blog (Mark Sashine) in January and it seems still OK. As for 'arabic cavemen' rant as it is mentioned in the 'no subject' comment above, I only have to say that some people really deserve their governments and their Hitlers too. If a person wants to be mad, he/she will find a way. There is nothing can be done here, just look at the Krauthammer. Look at the faces. by Mark Sashine (72 articles, 19 quicklinks, 269 diaries, 4101 comments [131 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 8:42:13 AM (0+)
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The author is a loonie zionist
Now if she only knew that the then Nazie party ,is what controls AIPAC is today.-- . I'm getting tired about the bashing of the germans.Germany was used in WWI WWII to go after the Russians.WWIII is about to happen and Russia is in the cross hairs- by the same people-I suggest the author of this crap peace--stop and be true American. The country is in a mess and we have killed more then ever what the Germans have. Bush is a low lifer and what's worse is his Nazie like backers! At least Hitler served in the military. by george arch (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 25 comments) on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 8:52:34 AM (0+)
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Reply: I think, there is something wrong with the head here
I refer to the comment about ' loonie zionist' Ok here we go: 1.Germany of course was pushed to go after Russia but before it did it, it did a lot of bad things on her own. By the way, the casualties of WWII, if only taken as civilian inflicted by GERMANS, ( I am sorry) are still unbelievably bigger than the ones so far done by Bush ( but he is only starting) 2. AIPAC does serve Israeli interests but.. the criminals in power now here do their own game pretty successfully. If Israel had changed tomorrow our Bushies would become antisemitic in a blink of an eye. 3. And where is 'German- bashing'? We bash Bush. And Germans were the classics in evil, so they have to live with it, sorry. 4. Hitler did serve as a petty officer in the WWI. So what? Does that justify anything what he was? If Bush served in the military would that make a difference? Hardly. 5. And if anyone who compares ( rightfully) Bush to Hitler can be considered a ' zionist', then the Zionist movement ( which vehemently supports Bush) would be banned from the US. But not only it flourishes: Pat Robertson likes them. Got my drift... by Mark Sashine (72 articles, 19 quicklinks, 269 diaries, 4101 comments [131 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 10:08:33 AM (0+)
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Reply: Typical right wing ad hominem
Calling the author a "Loonie Zionist" is just a typical ad hominem and discredits whomever posted it. by Len Hart (134 articles, 175 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 555 comments) on Tuesday, Jun 27, 2006 at 7:18:19 PM (0+)
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Though Bush and Hiter may both appear to show the same arrogance it must be noted that Bush is really front for the Zionist Banking Cabals whereas Hitler did not entertain these entities. If you read about the Mandrake Mechanism and the history of the Rothschild’s it all becomes much clearer as to whose agenda is being followed by whom. As 1930’s Germany dispensed with the Zionist Banksters you may also note that all of the ‘Axis of Evil’ are of this same position. The seeds of Depleted Uranium have already been sown in the Middle East, Yugoslavia and the world’s atmosphere to out shadow the crimes of World War 2. For the record it also must be noted that Kennedy issued 5 billion of US treasury bills before his assassination, which were withdrawn before his burial, got the picture yet. by subject-x (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 12:05:39 PM (0+)
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If it walks llike a duck, and quacks like a duck.....
Many do not like to use the Nazi to Bush comparison. I am no expert but I can watch documentaries and read, ergo: this administration and early Nazi Germany I say if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck... it's a duck. There are more similarities than differences. Now one big difference is that Hitler as barbaric as he was, , unlike Bush he wasn't stupid. There is no way all that has happened in the last 5 years could have been even thought of by this fool. It is our own axis of evil... Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Perl, Rumsfeld. Bush is the fool, the jokester in the court, the puppet, who else could they have gotten to run who would put up with such manipulation? When you think about it history shows us it is not unusual for countries to fall. Ask the UK, ask Spain ask Italy ask any of them that have a 1,000 years or more of history. They all got greedy lazy, ignorant, arrogant. Just like us. Now one big favor this administration has done is rip open the underbelly of this nation so we can see what was really going on... the American Dream? ah.... I think perhaps it was always only a dream. They have shown us how easy it is to bring this country down, especially when you have people with their heads up.... you know where, and my favorite.... the media, which in all failed nations has had the honor of playing a big role. Our country's media is no different, their silence is deafening. Even PBS is going right. What is the reason? Is it fear from the CEO's of these bums? Is it the great wealth they are promised? The power that comes from controlling the populace? This country has done much good, in spite of the power mongers, but we also have done some bad stuff and maybe now is pay back time. What is happening now has many aspects to it there is no easy black and white answer. Alas...no more greats to help either, no more Robert Kennedy's, no more Dr. Kings, no more Mother Teresa's .... not even another Diana. It's up to us the PEOPLE. If we don't understand history we are doomed to repeat it. AND This quote tells it all... scary how relevant it is now. "Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all it is the leaders of the country that make policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." ---Hermann Goering, speaking at the Nuremberg trials after World War II by Bam M. (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 26 comments) on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 1:24:45 PM (0+)
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A Striking Similarity Between Third Reich And Bush Admin
Every May 1st for as much future as we have left people will revisit the single most joyous moment of the Bush presidency. After training in the White House pool for an accidental ocean crash, recall the radiantly happy man dressed in an airman’s flight suit with the oversized codpiece that landed on the USS Lincoln to declare that he had won the Iraq War. It may have been the strangest moment in Presidential history. But it certainly did open up a window into the mind of George W. Bush. It also raised questions about Bush's sexuality. Much has been made of the centrality of gay bashing to his political fortunes. It’s still taboo though to discuss Mr. Bush’s own inclinations in polite political discourse. In fact, if he weren’t about to set the world on fire, this matter would be irrelevant. This aspect of Bush’s nature is of necessity deeply buried in his own psyche under a mountain of self-loathing and insecurity. Homosexuality could never be allowed to openly manifest itself as it does in a healthy gay man, like say Gore Vidal. Sadly in our violently homophobic society his very physical survival depends on the suppression of this reality. In fact, the Bush Administration’s inner circle shares with Hitler’s Nazi leadership a very influential cadre of closeted gay men and sadists. The Nazi’s mass murder of gay men was partly an attempt to kill the demons they felt tormented by in their own minds. The electoral exploitation of gay marriage measures by the Bush Administration and their homoerotic torture chambers at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo serves much the same purpose. George Bush deeply despises women as weaklings and seeks gratification by dominating other men. He gravitates toward sexless females in the mold of Condi Rice and Karen Hughes and surrounds himself with submissive male advisors and aides. These are the men who fear to bring real world news to him, men who will remain loyal despite being berated or humiliated before others, men like Karl Rove who will answer to the name “Turd Blossom” without protest. It is in this atmosphere that a James Guckert a.k.a. Jeff Gannon gets the run of the White House while the dean of the press corps Helen Thomas is scorned by Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan. It is in this atmosphere that a John R. Bolton is forced on the U.N., and a Jack Abramoff rises to lobbist-in-chief along with his Christian buddy Ralph Reed, and a Ken Mehlman gets to steer the Republican Party, and a John Roberts and his instant family is made Chief Justice while Harriet Miers is degraded, and a Vice-Presidential chief-of-staff writes fictionally of the bestial rape of Japanese girls, and a new White House chief-of-staff collects pictures of the hands of his boss, and an 82nd Airborne Division begins producing paratroopers and gay porn stars. by John Brown (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 7:06:37 PM (0+)
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