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January 22, 2008 at 09:03:14

Why Obama is Flat Wrong About Ronald Reagan

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Barack Obama's timing could not have been worse. His thinly veiled comparison of himself to Ronald Reagan comes at a time when the US is poised precipitously at the brink of what may be the longest, deepest recession since Reaganomics ushered in a two year long depression back in 1982.

I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like with all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think people, he just tapped into what people were already feeling, which was we want clarity we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing.

--Barack Obama, Washington Post


A Singular Figure???

John Edwards, flat-lined in third place, appears to be the only Democrat in the field who has grasped and addressed the fact that US society is endemically unfair and un-equal. The divide is not merely along racial lines though that remains to be sure. American society is one of haves vs have-nots. GOP-types respond with the standard focus group approved epithet: class warfare. My Carville quick response: bring it on!!

Recessions, like the one following Ronald Reagan's improvident tax cut of 1982, harm workers. American recessions, like periods of prosperity, are inequitable in their effects, harming wage earners at the outset and paying off a tiny elite on tax day. The conservative economist Joseph Schumpeter confirmed as much when he compared recessions to a "cleansing douche", a characterization that lifelong goppers must surely apply to everyone but themselves and their country club cronies.
"When you think about what Ronald Reagan did to the American people, to the middle class to the working people," former Sen. John Edwards shot back at an event in Henderson, Nevada.

"He was openly -- openly-- intolerant of unions and the right to organize. He openly fought against the union and the organized labor movement in this country...He openly did extraordinary damage to the middle class and working people, created a tax structure that favored the very wealthiest Americans and caused the middle class and working people to struggle every single day. The destruction of the environment, you know, eliminating regulation of companies that were polluting and doing extraordinary damage to the environment."Edwards added, "I can promise you this: this president will never use Ronald Reagan as an example for change."

Washington Post, Obama's Reagan Comparison Sparks Debate

When I think about what Ronald Reagan did to this nation, I think of how he struck at and perhaps killed-off a viable labor movement. I think about how middle class families made homeless lived under bridges and overpasses in boomtown Houston. I think about how Reagan, like Bush, waged a phony war on terrorism during which terrorist attacks increased some three fold. I think about how Ed Meece waged a war on porn even as a gay prostitution ring operated right out of the White House. I think about how Ronald Reagan neutered affirmative action, the fairness doctrine, and the industries that had kept the middle class in the middle class. I remember how Ronald Reagan was worshipped by the gullible who remembered Reagan's reign at the Republican National convention of 1992: "Reagan made us feel good about ourselves", they swooned.

It was not so long ago that Bush played guitar while New Orleans drowned and in doing so, Bush became the symbol of his own failures. Nothing had been learned from the Reagan experience. The intellectually bankrupt GOP can be counted on to repeat failed strategies in the expectation of a different outcome. Bush stays the failed course amid warnings that our nation is falling apart at the seams heading for third world status and catastrophe. The warnings come amid the valid assessment that Bush's tax cut for the rich failed to make good on two empty promises: it did not trickle down or prime the economic pump and it did not pay for itself as Bush himself had promised it would. Just one year after Congress bowed to Bush and passed the tax cut of 2001, the Brookings Institution would write:
The official federal budget outlook has deteriorated dramatically since early 2001, due to last year's tax cut, the economic slowdown, and the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. In addition to the pressures from the long-anticipated increase in entitlement spending as the nation ages, the government now also faces growing spending needs for defense and homeland security. These trends imply that future taxes must rise, future spending outside of defense and the elderly must decline, or obligations to the elderly and to defense be reduced.

-Alan Auerbach, William G. Gale, and Peter R. Orszag, June 2002, The Budget Outlook: Options for Restoring Fiscal Discipline, Brooking Institution

But GOP supply side, trickle down economics also promises more opportunity, a growing economy, more jobs.
Some in Washington say we had to choose between cutting taxes and cutting the deficit....Today's numbers show that that was a false choice. The economic growth fueled by tax relief has helped send our tax revenues soaring. That's what has happened.

-George W. Bush

But that's not what happened. Wealth has never trickled down and there is no "higher pie". A Treasury Department analysis refuted Bush directly, confirming in its analysis what many experts and Bush critics had been saying all along: tax cuts do not come remotely close to paying for themselves. [PDF] . In other words, the two promises of "trickle down" theory are dead wrong: wealth does not trickle down and tax revenues do not increase to make up the short fall.

As Dizzy Dean said: it's deja vu all over again! Why does the GOP insist upon repeating failed strategies. Reaganites promised that the stimulated economy would outgrow the deficit and the budget would be balanced "...within three years, maybe even two." It didn't! Reagan tripled the deficit and, on the way, he doubled the size of the federal bureaucracy. Reagan's tax cuts were followed promptly by the longest and worst recession since Herbert Hoover's Great Depression. As Robert Freeman correctly points out: "...Jimmy Carter's last budget deficit was $77 billion. Reagan's first deficit was $128 billion. His second deficit exploded to $208 billion. By the time the "Reagan Revolution" was over, George H.W. Bush was running an annual deficit of $290 billion per year."

How will Bush compare to Reagan? By the year 2002, Citizens for Tax Justice were already writing:

Over the ten-year period, the richest Americans-the best-off one percent-are slated togwb0602a.gif - 10559 Bytes receive tax cuts totaling almost half a trillion dollars. The $477 billion in tax breaks the Bush administration has targeted to this elite group will average $342,000 each over the decade.

By 2010, when (and if) the Bush tax reductions are fully in place, an astonishing 52 percent of the total tax cuts will go to the richest one percent-whose average 2010 income will be $1.5 million. Their tax-cut windfall in that year alone will average $85,000 each. Put another way, of the estimated $234 billion in tax cuts scheduled for the year 2010, $121 billion will go just 1.4 million taxpayers.

Although the rich have already received a hefty down payment on their Bush tax cuts-averaging just under $12,000 each this year-80 percent of their windfall is scheduled to come from tax changes that won't take effect until after this year, mostly from items that phase in after 2005.

1968 was the year in which measured postwar income was at its most equal for families. The Gini index for households indicates that there has been growing income inequality over the past quarter-century. Inequality grew slowly in the 1970's and rapidly during the early 1980's. ...Generally, the long-term trend has been toward increasing income inequality. Since 1969, the share of aggregate household income controlled by the lowest income quintile has decreased from 4.1 percent to 3.6 percent in 1997, while the share to the highest quintile increased from 43.0 percent to 49.4 percent. Most noticeably, the share of income controlled by the top 5 percent of households has increased from 16.6 percent to 21.7 percent. Over the same time period, the Gini index rose 17.4 percent to its 1997 level of .459.

-Income Inequality, Census Bureau

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Len Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy
Len HartLen Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy

An addendum

This article deals primarily with Reagan's economic failures. Certainly, Reagan ushered in the era of outsourcing better described as the EXPORTING OF JOBS. But Reagan failed the nation in other ways as well. Terrorism increased about three fold during his reign but Ed Meece, it seems, was obsessed with fighting another phantom menace --Porn.

by Len Hart (123 articles, 159 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 479 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 9:14:09 AM
 


Faculty member at University of Kentucky. Teacher, Researcher, social activist. Political independent who believes in better government, not necessarily smaller or larger government.
Peter WedlundFaculty member at University of Kentucky. Teacher, Researcher, social activist. Political independent who believes in better government, not necessarily smaller or larger government.

Why Obama is Flat Wrong About Ronald Reagan.

Go back and read Obama's quote.  He credits Reagan with putting us on a different path.  He does not say it was the right path.  However, he does admit Reagan's success rested largely with his "optimism" and his ability to tap into Americans sense of what they wanted.  Reagan was known as the "GREAT COMMUNICATOR."

I objected to Reagan's wars.  I objected to his foreign policy approaches.  I fundamentally disagree with the trickle down economic policies of Republicans.  However, whether you like it or not Reagan will be remembered well by the History books.  He left office with an extremely high approval rating.  The US public by and large "loved Reagan".  In some respects he said what Americans wanted to hear, "we can do it."

Obama was not embracing Reagan policies, he was embracing the Reagan attitude of tapping into the psyche of the American public.  Of providing them with a message of "hope" instead of one of "FEAR" and the "Let's get even" style of divisiveness that harms efforts to build consensus and creates divides that prevent progress.  Even Tip O'Neal (Speaker of the House) once commented about Reagan, that it was hard to oppose him because he is such a likeable guy.  Reagan didn't go out of his way to make enemies or try to get even with people.  He got things done because he worked well with others. In many respects he was "pragmatic" even as he embraced certain "dogmatic ideas".  Whether one liked Reagans policies or not, Reagan got things done with a Democratic Congress because he was willing to work with them. 

Contrast this with Clinton who did not work well with Republicans.  In fact, Clinton used his office and power to do end runs around Congress.  He blamed Republicans for not getting things done.  Although Clinton certainly was successful in blaming Republicans like Newt Gingrich for shutting down government, he was equally responsible for this debacle.  With the entry of Bill Clinton and Bush we have seen "the divisiveness between political parties."  The attitude of "it's my way or the highway" approach to government.  Clinton was more restricted by a Republican Congress from 1996-2000 and a Democratic Congress that was wanning in power during his first term. Bush was free to pursue his excesses because a Republican Congress ruled for most of his Presidency.  This is history.  I lived it and I remember it vividly.  Obama does have some similarities to Ronald Reagan in his style of communication, his optimism about the future and his willingness to work with others.  I see nothing wrong in his noting this, without it being mutated by Clinton into an endorsement of Republican philosophy which it clearly was not.

 

by Peter Wedlund (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 154 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:47:32 AM
 


Len Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy
Len HartLen Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy

Obama blew a chance to set the record straight

Go back and read Obama's quote.

Where do you get off ASSUMING that I did not read the quote. If you hadn't noticed, I quoted Obama verbatim! I don't quote people I haven't read.

He credits Reagan with putting us on a different path. He does not say it was the right path.

When OBAMA --as a candidate --should have told us WHY it was the wrong path. Obama blew it! This is serious stuff. Reagan, indeed, changed the very nature of the US "republic". If Obama wanted a chance to make it clear to potential voters that he stood in opposition to "Reaganomics" or the fact that Reagan's policies made terrorism worse or that Reagan lied his ass off about "welfare grandmothers", he blew it! I could not blame anyone if they elected NEVER to believe Obama again. He sounded like a PR flack. And that is just one of the many things wrong with politics in this country. Now --if it makes you feel any better, my opinion of Hilary is no better!

However, he does admit Reagan's success rested largely with his "optimism" and his ability to tap into Americans sense of what they wanted. Reagan was known as the "GREAT COMMUNICATOR."

That's an ADMISSION? Obama was just saying words ---platitudes, a technique pioneered by, guess who: REAGAN.


I objected to Reagan's wars. I objected to his foreign policy approaches.

However, whether you like it or not Reagan will be remembered well by the History books.

Only if PR flacks and people like Obama get to write them!

He left office with an extremely high approval rating.

What does that prove? That he fooled the public? I heartily agree. George Bush enjoyed very high approval ratings even after it was clear that he had lied his ass off in order to begin his war of naked aggression against Iraq.

The US public by and large "loved Reagan".

The public loved Ronald because "he made us feel good about ourselves"! An actual quote from the GOP convention of 1992. That hardly recommends him.

In some respects he said what Americans wanted to hear, "we can do it."

Everyone, especially idiots, will LOVE those who tell them what they want to hear. The US is in dire need of people who will, rather, tell them the fckin truth! That's what ALL demagogues do --they tell people whatever it is they want to hear.

Obama was not embracing Reagan policies, he was embracing the Reagan attitude of tapping into the psyche of the American public.

I am not interested in PR or "techniques"; I am interested in substance. Read the case I've made against Reagan. I met Reagan. I interviewed numerous Reagan flacks. I interviewed Nelson Rockefeller during the Reagan Regime. I may write my own book about Reagan. You probably won't like it. And that will mean that I will have done a good job.

Of providing them with a message of "hope" instead of one of "FEAR" and the "Let's get even" style of divisiveness that harms efforts to build consensus and creates divides that prevent progress.

As Speer said of Hitler's regime, Reagan's administration was one of meaningless platitudes, slogans, and BS. What the crap is "message of hope" supposed to mean when he was putting people out the streets with his stupid policies? Come on, give me a break.

Even Tip O'Neal (Speaker of the House) once commented about Reagan, that it was hard to oppose him because he is such a likeable guy.

Likeable guy, lousy President! If these are your criteria for voting for someone, it is no wonder that the US is going down the tubes!


He got things done because he worked well with others.

He got all the wrong things done. He promised to reduce govt but doubled the Fed bureucracy. He promised to balance the budget, but tripled the Fed deficit. He promised to war a great war on terror and, in fact, terrorism increased three fold. When the marine barracks was blown up in Lebanon, he pulled out and changed the subject. He promised a higher moral tone, but, in fact, a gay child prostitution ring was operating right out of the White House but it was hushed up with complicity from the media. Reagan ruthlessly crushed the labor movement and at the end of the two year long depression, the growth rate was NO BETTER than it had been during the Carter years though Carter had been unfairly reviled by the endemic liars of the GOP.

In many respects he was "pragmatic" even as he embraced certain "dogmatic ideas".

I have heard the word "pragmatic" used by flacks about anyone. What are you doing? Pulling labels out of hat! Give me some meat and potatoes! Honestly, this is precisely the kind of meaningless crap that is always peddled about Reagan. It is pure propaganda.

Whether one liked Reagans policies or not, Reagan got things done with a Democratic Congress because he was willing to work with them.

I gave you the SHORT list of things he "got done". The nation would have been better off if he had not "got them done"!

In fact, Clinton used his office and power to do end runs around Congress. He blamed Republicans for not getting things done.

Although Clinton certainly was successful in blaming Republicans like Newt Gingrich for shutting down government, he was equally responsible for this debacle. With the entry of Bill Clinton and Bush we have seen "the divisiveness between political parties."

I dealt with fact in my article ...and you respond with stuff that sounds like it might have been written either by a PR firm, a flack, of Wolf Blitzer. Clinton, a mediocre President, was still LIGHT YEARS ahead of Ronald Reagan who presided over and caused with his policies the richer getting even richer, increasing terrorism, incresing poverty, increasing terrorism with his incompetent foreign policy. Moreover, Ronald Reagan committed high treason by arming an avowed enemy of the US: Iran! Reagan sold them arms though it was against the law and used that money to finance a right wing terrorist organization in Central America. It was called Iran/Contra and you should read the final report by special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh who clearly believed that Ronald Reagan should have been indicted.

The rest of your drivel, I won't even bother responding to until you've done your homework.

by Len Hart (123 articles, 159 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 479 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:19:10 PM
 


I've been a musician for 40 years.married with 5 kids.
larry boothI've been a musician for 40 years.married with 5 kids.

yeah, we should have RE-ELECTED............

Carter! There was an economic genius. You say what you want about Reagan, but as an average Joe, I had more money in my pocket with him in office than I ever did with Little Jimmy.

by larry booth (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 268 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 4:39:45 PM
 


I've been a musician for 40 years.married with 5 kids.
larry boothI've been a musician for 40 years.married with 5 kids.

I have an open mind............

Please list the great economic accomplishments of Jimmy Carter.

by larry booth (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 268 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 10:10:56 AM
 


I'm an old hippie chick who was part of the Woodstock Generation and the New Left back in the 1960s and '70s. I was enamored with Stephen Gaskin, who led his group to settle on The Farm in Tennessee. For the last few years, though, I've joined a small group of others who are trying to spread the word about the work of the messenger who goes by the pen name of Joseph J. Adamson. I believe that his work, even though it has been rejected by his generation so far, will eventually be spread and help ...

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Sarah MorganI'm an old hippie chick who was part of the Woodstock Generation and the New Left back in the 1960s and '70s. I was enamored with Stephen Gaskin, who led his group to settle on The Farm in Tennessee. For the last few years, though, I've joined a small group of others who are trying to spread the word about the work of the messenger who goes by the pen name of Joseph J. Adamson. I believe that his work, even though it has been rejected by his generation so far, will eventually be spread and help ...

to see more of bio, click on member name

Reagan's Real Legacy

"When Ronald Reagan died, the commercial media understandably went along with the Reaganites in image-building. After all, most people wanted to honor the man following his death, and no one wants to speak ill of the recently deceased. But then, when Reagan's self-serving diaries were finally published and made public by the Reaganites, they renewed their efforts to try to paint him as a great leader, and even as a saint."

"The Reaganites do that to try to rescue and maintain Reaganism, which was continued and advanced by the Bush Regime. But, as the message fully explains, 'Reaganism' is actually a very right-wing, divisive partisan ideology which unfairly serves the interests of the wealthiest few, to the detriment of the great majority, the environment and the infrastructure, while claiming and pretending to serve all the people in the name of God and Country."

"The Reaganites (and Bushites) want to rescue Reaganism because they realize it is finally being threatened. That's because it has been and will increasingly be exposed for what it is, because it is inherently deceptive and corrupt. That worries the Reaganites, because Reaganism has made them very wealthy and powerful, and they want to maintain the status quo."

Those are the first three paragraphs from this web page:

http://reformationcomingsoon.bravehost.com/ReaganLegacy.html

 

by Sarah Morgan (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 175 comments) on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 7:06:06 PM
 


Len Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy
Len HartLen Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy

The truth about the endemically corrupt GOP

Thanks for the link.  One of the reasons, GOPPER types are so adamant about Reagan is simply: THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. And the truth is--until Bush JR came along, Reagan was the worst President since Warren Harding. The Reagan White House was corrupt, incompetent, and dangerous. I don't deal in meaningless bullshit like GOPPERS do. I have the hard stats from the Census Bureau, the Bureau of Economic Analysis, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics to back me up. I don't why people don't just check his record out for themselves. It's all in the public domain....nothing is hidden.

Much of it is documented in my article...but NO article can cover all of it.

 I am sick to death of hearing GOP whine and moan and orgasm about what a great President RR was. He WASN'T. If you worked for a living in those days, it sucked! And his policies were to blame. It was and remains the deliberate policy of the GOP to enrich a tiny, increasingly small base. They believe in screwing over everyone else while lying to them about it. FACTS! 

by Len Hart (123 articles, 159 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 479 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 12:55:37 AM
 


Len Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy
Len HartLen Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy

Grown men cry

Sarah, I agree ---the GOP MUST re-write Reagan's real legacy. If Reagan is proven to be the fraud that he was, then Post War GOPism falls flat on its ass! I support dissent and the right of people to espouse differing opinions. What I object to is GOP attempts to rewrite history and, in this, they have a partner in crime: the corporate media. Whenever Reagan's name is mentioned, grown men tear up! So do  I --but for completely different reasons. The screw job that Reaganites perpetrated on this nation is enough to make a grown man cry!

by Len Hart (123 articles, 159 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 479 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 10:52:16 AM
 


Len Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy
Len HartLen Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy

Every Democrat beats ANY Republican Praz since 1900

This article is not about Jimmy Carter..it IS about the verififiable fact that EVERY Democratic Presidents since 1900 has presided over more and better economic growth than ANY gop President in the same time period. Jimmy Carter is just an example:

Job Growth Per Year Under Most Recent Presidents

Johnson 3.8%
Carter 3.1
Clinton 2.4
Kennedy 2.3
Nixon 2.3
Reagan 2.1
Bush 0.6

Check those numbers out at the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

In the following chart, notice that Carter's 1970 unemployment rate was NOT recovered until 1988.

Unemployment Rate5

1960 5.5%
1965 4.5
1970 5.0
1975 8.5
1976 7.7
1977 7.1
1978 6.1
1979 5.9
1980 7.2
1981 7.6
1982 9.7
1983 9.6
1984 7.5
1985 7.2
1986 7.0
1987 6.2
1988 5.5

 

Again --those are the official numbers from the government, Bureau of Labor Stats. Should also find them at Bureau of Economic Analysis. Ronald Reagan doubled the federal bureaucracy though he had promised to reduce government. He also TRIPLED the deficit, though he promised to balance the budget. Was Reagan a liar --or just a typical, incompetent GOPPER? I leave that to the reader. If the corporate media in this country had done its job, I wouldn't have to waste my time correcting all the lies that have been told by the GOP.

by Len Hart (123 articles, 159 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 479 comments) on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 at 10:47:11 AM
 


Len Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy
Len HartLen Hart is a Houston based film/video producer specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries. He is a former major market and network correspondent; credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy

Your link

Sarah, that is, indeed, a great link. It should be required reading. But you can bet that it will never find its way into the Houston school system --home of the "Houston Miracle", another crass and overt fraud that I don't have time to write about. So many frauds, so little time!!!

 

 

by Len Hart (123 articles, 159 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 479 comments) on Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 1:24:26 AM
 

 

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