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November 20, 2007 at 19:55:20

Headlined on 11/20/07:
Hillary Clinton's LYING she needs 60 votes to Leave Iraq

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George W. Bush and Dick Cheney lied the United States into Iraq and now Hillary Clinton is lying to keep the United States in Iraq. Where is Oliver Stone when we need him? The magic bullet theory has been replaced by the disappearing act of the 423 million lawyers in the United States. Pervez Musharraf locked up the lawyers and the judges in Pakistan but in the United States they all just fell asleep. Fortunately “Deep Throat II” has come to our rescue, and it isn’t Monica Lewinsky or Larry Craig, aka “Bathroom Boy”.

This past Saturday Nov. 17, 2007, the 10th anniversary since Bill and Hillary Clinton refused to send the Kyoto Protocol to reduce planetary poisoning to the Senate for ratification and refused to ratify it, when 172 other countries did, Hillary Clinton spoke in Los Angeles at a Global Warming Forum. It got so hot at the forum that anti Iraq War protester Tyghe Berry of Code Pink was forced to scream, “Don’t tase me bro!”, before being carted away by police, arrested and fined, for asking Hillary Clinton, “How can you say you’re for the environment when you’re always voting for war?” Congressman Dennis Kucinich and Senator John Edwards also spoke at the forum. Neither were arrested.

As Tyghe Berry was being thrown out, Hillary Clinton said, “Our (The Democrats’) obstacle to getting anything through the Congress (ie “A law ending the Iraq War”) is the filibuster rule in the Senate. That means we have to get 60 votes in the Senate which means unless we have 60 Democrats we actually have to get some Republicans to vote with us. It’s one of the unfortunate obstacles we face because of the rules of the Senate.” You can watch Hillary Clinton say this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiRBQqIEgm8 In simple terms Hillary Clinton told the American people that the Democratic Party cannot end the war in Iraq because they don’t have enough votes in the House or Senate, and they need 60 in the Senate. Hillary Clinton passed the buck on Iraq to the Republicans with this outright lie.

A sign “The buck stops here” sat on President Harry Truman’s desk in the oval office in the White House. It is unknown how many interns sat on President Clinton’s desk in the oval office. “Is that your stethoscope or are you just happy to see me?” During Bill Clinton’s presidential campaign Gennifer Flowers, who had a twelve year relationship with Governor Clinton complained of his miniscule member. In the smoking tape recordings of conversations between Bill Clinton and Gennifer Flowers they each called each other “Honey”. Two Arkansas Police Officer bodyguards of Governor Clinton confirmed the affair. Bill Clinton denied the affair. He said, “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, I had sexual relations with those women.” after the smoking dress was unveiled. In response to Gennifer Flowers, Hillary Clinton also denied the affair, and said that everyone calls everyone “Honey” in Arkansas. This is where the “Bee Movie” was filmed, a major disappointment despite the stellar cast. If one more bee dies next spring then we are all going extinct.

In the case at hand, how many Senate votes does it take to leave Iraq? Hillary Clinton says “60”. BZZZZZZ! Sorry, next contestant. Our next contestant is “Deep Throat II” aka Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich. Recently Rob Kall, the editor of OpEdNews.com interviewed Congressman Kucinich on this very point, here This is where Congressman Kucinich spilled the beans on the Democratic leadership, the game they are playing with the American public, and the real rules of the United States Congress which allow the Democrats to end the Iraq War tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow, you’re only, a daaaay a waaay!

In November 2006 the American people elected a Democratic Congress, a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House. This allowed the Democrats to elect Harry Reid as the Senate Majority Leader and Nancy Pelosi as the Speaker of the House of Representatives. According to the official rules of the Congress, only the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid or the Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi can refer a bill to committee and then to the floor for a vote. This is the power of the purse which the American people gave to the Democratic Party last November as an expression of their will to leave Iraq immediately. In other words, if Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi decides to kill any war funding bill by not referring it to committee or the floor it’s dead.

Lets say that some congressman is an alcoholic and drunk and signs and puts a bill into the clerk’s hopper saying that henceforth no member is permitted to pick their nose more than 15 times per hour. As with any bill no matter how important Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid can kill it dead immediately. Without a war funding bill the American troops in Iraq will not have gasoline to drive their tanks, or bullets, and they will not be allowed to get killed or maimed anymore.

Hillary Clinton is talking about a filibuster of a bill that actually made it to the floor for debate and a vote. This is like talking about which tactics Devil’s Bag’s jockey should use in the Kentucky Derby when Devil’s Bag had already broken his leg before the race anyway. In November 2006 the Republicans broke both their legs, the House and the Senate. The founding fathers gave the Congress a check on the President and the Vice President, who shot his lawyer in the face deliberately for telling him this stuff.

Buster Douglas scored the biggest upset in sporting history by winning the undisputed heavyweight championship by knocking out Mike Tyson, who at the time was Superman. Mike Tyson used to knock his opponents into the third row on the first punch before he found myspace. For fun the Democrats should introduce a bill ending the Iraq War in the Senate. People will jump to pay $60 to watch it on pay per view. Imagine Lindsey Graham spending 12 hours in the Senate filibustering by reading the full line of Harry Potter novels and explaining to the American people how the Iraq War has been so helpful for the American Health Care system, educational system, the 10 trillion dollar deficit and global warming. By the time the Republicans are done mouthing off they won’t get a single vote next November.

Once the American people understand that Russia, China and the 1.3 Billion person Muslim world will never allow the United States to steal the Middle East oil, then the troops can come home. Russia, China and Iran have formed a strategic military alliance. Russia and China helped tiny North Vietnam defeat the United States. Russia is building nuclear reactors in Iran and giving Iran advanced missiles. Hillary Clinton believes that Jesus is coming in the Apocalypse Nuclear World War 3, on a flying horse from Heaven to defeat the snake, goat, lion Beast Devil of Revelations because she doesn’t know that the New Testament was written by Greek authors who plagiarised the story of Prince Bellerophon on his flying horse Pegasus defeating the snake, goat, lion Chimera. Coincidentally Nostradamus’ first two anti Christs Napoleon and Hitler code named Hister lost their Empire’s armies in Russia. Nostradamus’ third anti Christ is named maBUS. Turn the “m” upside down.

Jesus Christ the Jewish born Rabbi and Messiah of Christianity and Islam carved in stone, “Do not murder”, “Do not steal”, and “Do not lie”, otherwise I will punish you, your children, your grandchildren and your great grandchildren.” Hillary Clinton, those are the rules. Now bring the kids home before Vladimir Putin, Hu Jintao and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei beat their heads in. Lets end the Clinton reign and call it “Talegate”. Obama, Edwards, Biden, Kucinich, Gravel and Richardson are all fabulous, especially with Al Gore on the ticket. They will have no problem blowing away Mr. “I am staunchly pro choice and pro life” Giuliani and his recycled only worse hawk Bush advisors. Imagine truth in the oval office, a breath of fresh air. Blessed are the peacemakers.

 

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What a mess of crap, man do I ever hate the internet for allowing FOOLS like this JERK to pretend that he's a writer.  Bill Clinton's sexual escapades are such old news that if he read about it right now and recalled his times he'd never get an erection.  When people like this guy writes about "Billy Boy’s Fun Times  at Government House" he makes him into a hero. Man I'll admit that in my day I managed to have sex in some crazy places but a Governors Mansion and the Whitehouse, that was some make out session. Way to go Bill, you're the man. The real man, and people like this so called writer are and always will be green with envy.

by drasile (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 77 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 11:16:13 AM
 


57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive worked�many jobs from�a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36� BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Andris57Yo m I'm a "been there, done that! Bought the tee shirt,to hide the scars!" type of person Ive worked�many jobs from�a chicken slaughterer to managing a branch of a multinational and many jobs in between.Raised in colonial PNG Left School 16,Grad Hi school 22 Night School, University 36� BBus (majored in Psyche and Marketing), Dip Comp prog and project Mmnt.at 50 I've been in 48 different community org ,23 on board with 18 prez or deputy prez.First social campaign at 17 for the aborigine...

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Congratulation you've managed to turn  a serious subject and debase it to the level of high school  locker room slander.

How do you know about Hillary and Bill's sex life? you don't!

Just for interest many presidents since WW2 have had the odd ' exta marrital adventures'  Eisenhower, Kenedy to mention two. So what? it is between husband and wife not a matter of purile titilation. Clintons problem...where he broke the law(?) was the denial.

What is important is what have/will they do for the counrty? Will it be in the interest of the country? Will Hillary on balance be better than her opponents.

So you don't like her manerisms again so what it's what she will do.

As for the 60 that's to overcome the inevitable Veto. Other than that its just smoke and mirrors.

You need to look at the marginal Dems who are from largely Republican Seats then ask yourself would these people be commiting political suicide by supporting an impeachment/ nonfunding bill? Pelosi would know that.

When all said and done 30% maybe 40% support for imfeachment is not enough public support.

Purple prose is of limited value if an article is to engender a conversation rather than a 'love in' Objectivity and limiting hype would help.

 

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 532 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 4:19:18 PM
 


Karen Fish is a writer currently living in Los Angeles California. The Temple of Love - The World Peace Religion makes peace among and unites Christianity Islam Judaism and Everyone else and the Countries they all live in as the first step towards world peace, by tying everyone together with their common threads and resolving all of their differences once and for all.
Karen FishKaren Fish is a writer currently living in Los Angeles California. The Temple of Love - The World Peace Religion makes peace among and unites Christianity Islam Judaism and Everyone else and the Countries they all live in as the first step towards world peace, by tying everyone together with their common threads and resolving all of their differences once and for all.

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raise a very interesting issue. In Rob Kall's interview with Dennis Kucinich, Dennis said that the Democrats fear that Republicans will accuse them of refusing to fund the troops. Who framed the Iraq War debate this way? The Democrats need to reframe the debate. The debate has to be, "Should the United States continue the War in Iraq or end it?" That is the only pertinent question. That is the supreme question. If the country wanted to continue the war, then obviously the troops would be funded, and the military industrial complex. However, because the country voted to end the Iraq War, the next step is to bring the troops home.

During the Vietnam War was the debate framed around continuing to support the troops or around ending the war? The whole argument about "refusing to fund the troops" seems to me like Hogwash, Republican sleight of hand. Even if the troops are brought home, the country will continue to fund them, but in their American bases. Obviously if you decide to end a war you stop funding the war, not the troops.

Since the country already voted to end the war, the only way to do it now is to end funding for the war, not the troops. And, Dennis Kucinich's plan is a perfect way to end the Iraq War, by stopping to fund the war. 

 

by Karen Fish (55 articles, 12 quicklinks, 27 diaries, 52 comments) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 5:32:03 PM
 


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There are a couple of reasons that the ‘impeach or bust” argument once you get past the hype and politicking won’t get legs at the moment.

·          Pelosi won’t take it too the floor because there is still not enough support in the public to compensate for the political damage it will do

.·          There are from memory 3-4 in the Senate who are only notionally Democrats where would they stand if it comes down to a pitch battle? As a leader you wouldn’t squander political capital on a fight you probably won’t win.

·          The veto I was referring to was the Non Funding one sorry it wasn’t clear.

·          To impeach GWB/RC Pelosi would need gold plated Proof if it wasn’t to finish up in the pro Bush Supreme Court. In the case of Tricky Dicky that proof was there.

·          What you have with Bush/Cheney is legally speaking a lot of unsubstantiated and or unproven claims until they’re testable in court. Untested evidence means little until it’s tested in court. That’s what we call the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.  In reality the case has the same legal validity as if I claimed you were the second assassin on the grassy knoll at the death JFK and it’s in my new book.

·          If Pelosi moved for impeachment without the evidence being tested The Deadly Duo could go to the court claiming denial of natural justice. The case would take years and for what?

·          The Bush/Cheney opposers (I’m one) to use an Aussie term ‘must have kangaroos loose in the top paddock’ (crazy) if they think that Bush and the GOP will go quietly. The publicity saturation the claims would be diabolical (never corner a pissed off animals).

·          I have read about plans to layoff DOD staff if funding for Iraq is stopped. All he wants to do is keep it going until he leaves office so he can keep face with the far right and give his cronies as much as possible

Hillary sees the wisdom ofgoing back to base rather than back to the states. She is also aware of the above and knows she will need support from some Republican voters to get in.

Denis on the other hand has nothing to lose so he's going for broke but in so doing he's losing the more conservative voter. Policy is unfortunately not a big deal in the mind of most public they look at who they can identify with best. DK has some problems on policy and presentation.

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 532 comments) on Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 3:16:04 AM
 

 

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