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September 30, 2007 at 17:27:47

Looks Like Joe Biden Hit a Nerve

by Jim Freeman     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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U.S. Tries to Allay Anger Over Iraq Partition Plan

BAGHDAD, Sept. 30 — The American Embassy reiterated its support on Sunday for a united Iraq as six political parties together voiced their objection to a United States Senate resolution endorsing partitioning the country into three states. In a statement, the embassy said: “Our goal in Iraq remains the same: a united democratic, federal Iraq that can govern, defend and sustain itself.

. . . The statement rebuffs the nonbinding Senate measure, sponsored by Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., Democrat of Delaware, and approved last week, which calls for Iraq to be divided into federal regions controlled respectively by Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites. The proposal resembles the power-sharing arrangement used to end the 1990s war in Bosnia among Bosnian Muslims, Serbs and Croats.

Many Iraqi politicians have reacted angrily to the proposal, suggesting that at the very least they find it presumptuous . . . Iraqis have volunteered their opinion to American reporters they encountered. Said one, “So you are going to divide our country.”

. . . The Kurdish parties and the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, led by the Shiite cleric Abdul Aziz Hakim, however, strongly support an arrangement in which much of the central government’s power is devolved to the regions. The Kurds already run a semiautonomous state in the north, and the Supreme Council hopes to see the nine majority Shiite provinces in the south band together to form a Shiite region.

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If I have this right, Senator Biden seems to have hit more of a nerve about whose idea it was then the difficulty of Iraqi acceptance of partition. In the “So you are going to divide our country” statement, the you was more a problem than the divide our country.

America is one of the only (maybe the only) nation that has ever fought a civil war to hold itself together. Yugoslavia doesn't count, it wasn't so much trying to achieve that as to divide the spoils.

In most instances and certainly in Iraq, civil war cannot possibly provide the country with a single entity capable of holding it all together. Democracy is no picnic to achieve, but you have to at least start with people who want to build a nation together. The Kurds don't want it and neither the Shiites or Sunnis are powerful enough to control the war-lords and Mullahs.

Only Saddam was capable of that, as only Tito could hold Yugoslavia together.

So, Joe Biden (who is often criticized for his candor) nailed it. Joe often nails it, but he is far too straight a shooter to ever become president. Obviously, the U.S. Senate doesn't control the Iraqi Parliament--which can't control itself, which is the real proof of a very stinky pudding. Unlike wine or cheese, this pudding will not improve with age.

But Joe has done a great service by beginning a dialog that Iraqis have thus far ignored. Truth is (as far as truth can ever be known) Iraq will end up a partitioned country--one way or another.


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And then?

This whole debate smacks of the lack of thought given to the aftermath of the original invasion. Any thing to disengage!

Chechina, Bosnia etc sec didn't have hostiles sitting on the border ready to pounce. Turkey has already threatened that if the Kurds declare independence they'll invade. Syria, Iran all have links within the country. How long before they opt to join their respective national brothers?

I can understand the dismay of people in Iraq with a longer view. I can see their anger what must be seen as the height of America arrogace first trashing their country and now talking about unilaterally partitioning  it setting the scene for a mother of all conflicts (see above). It just isn't that simple.

What is needed is are leaders with real vision instead of ideology in both continents.

by Andris (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 532 comments) on Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 11:28:29 PM
 


Jim Freeman's op-ed pieces and commentaries have appeared in The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, International Herald-Tribune, CNN, The New York Review, The Jon Stewart Daily Show and a number of magazines.
Jim FreemanJim Freeman's op-ed pieces and commentaries have appeared in The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, International Herald-Tribune, CNN, The New York Review, The Jon Stewart Daily Show and a number of magazines.

Every war has a context

And the context of this one was dishonesty, unpreparedness, undercommitment, hubris and fixed strategy. Not a good start.

Iraq was a dishonest partition to begin with, 90 years ago when the Brits carved it up over brandy and cigars at some country estate. The ancient Ottoman Empire they dismembered between pheasant-shoots was forged (like so many) in blood and conquest. The modern Arab nations are an amalgam of self-interest and oil, further shattered by fifty years of superpower subsidy and subterfuge.

Russia and the United States have a lot to answer for across the globe.

by Jim Freeman (107 articles, 40 quicklinks, 149 diaries, 325 comments) on Monday, October 1, 2007 at 2:18:29 AM
 


I am a Canadian politiphile with a special interest in the American empire.
deliaI am a Canadian politiphile with a special interest in the American empire.

And don't forget . . .

that over those cigars and brandy, a promise was made to the Arabs that the West would support Arab nationalism and self-determination if they cooperated in bringing down the Ottoman empire. So, thanks to the Arabs, the empire came down . . . but --- what a surprise ---  "Arab self-determination"?  What's that?

by delia (0 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 111 comments) on Monday, October 1, 2007 at 12:38:50 PM
 


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Jim FreemanJim Freeman's op-ed pieces and commentaries have appeared in The New York Times, Chicago Tribune, International Herald-Tribune, CNN, The New York Review, The Jon Stewart Daily Show and a number of magazines.

I think not . . .

. . . I think the promise made over brandy and cigars was the very opposite of Arab nationalism. I think the Brits and Americans promised to support and make wealthy the puppets they put in place, including whatever military hardware they might need.

The weapons, of course, were not needed to protect against their neighbors, but to keep down their indigenous population and they were doing that quite effectively until we upset a very big apple-cart.

The concept was flawed and flawed concepts always come apart, but it would be (from my perspective) a mistake to believe we or the Brits ever gave a damn about Arab Nationalism

by Jim Freeman (107 articles, 40 quicklinks, 149 diaries, 325 comments) on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 at 9:19:08 AM
 

 

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