Lyrics

The movie ran through me
The glamour subdued me
The tabloid untied me
I'm empty please fill me
Mister anchor assure me
That Baghdad is burning
Your voice it is so soothing
That cunning mantra of killing
I need you my witness
To dress this up so bloodless
To numb me and purge me now
Of thoughts of blaming you
Yes the car is our wheelchair
My witness your coughing
Oily silence mocks the legless boys
Who travel now in coffins
On the corner
The jury's sleepless
We found your weakness
And it's right outside your door

Now testify
Now testify
It's right outside your door
Now testify
Yes testify
Its right outside your door

With precision you feed me
My witness I'm hungry
Your temple it calms me
So I can carry on
My slaving sweating the skin right off my bones
On a bed of fire I'm choking on the smoke that fills my home
The wrecking ball is rushing
Witness your blushing
The pipeline is gushing
While here we lie in tombs
While on the corner
The jury's sleepless
We found your weakness
And it's right outside your door

Now testify
Yeah testify
It's right outside your door
Now testify
Now testify
It's right outside your door

Mass graves for the pump and the price is set
And the price is set
Mass graves for the pump and the price is set
And the price is set
Mass graves for the pump and the price is set
And the price is set
Mass graves for the pump and the price is set
And the price is set

Who controls the past now controls the future
Who controls the present now controls the past
Who controls the past now controls the future
Who controls the present now?

Now testify
Testify
It's right outside your door
Now testify
Testify
The war is right outside your door

by Ferdinand (17 articles, 4 quicklinks, 32 diaries, 237 comments) on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 4:51:51 PM
 

Obviously Gore would have been different...

1. Do you think the National Security Advisor Gore appointed would have ignored the outgoing Clinton National Security Advisor's advice to beware of Al Qaeda?

2. Do you think Al Gore and his National Security Advisor would have ignored repeated warnings by the CIA that Al Qaeda was poised to strike in the US?

3. Do you think Al Gore and his National Security Advisor would have ignored a warning by the CIA a month before 9/11 that warned that Al Qaeda intended to use airplanes as weapons?

4. Do you think Al Gore would have invaded Iraq on false pretenses?

5. Do you think Al Gore would have threw the environment under the bus like 'W' has done?

6. Do you think Al Gore would have spent as little effort as 'w' in trying to find a solution to the Israeli-Palestinian issue?

7. Do you think Al Gore would have reacted to the economic crises of 2001-2003 and of now by giving tax giveaways to the Rich like 'W' has done, or do you think he would have targeted programs toward the poor and middle class?

8. Do you think Al Gore would have ignored the galvanization of the public towards wanting National Healthcare that was achieved through the movie Sicko like 'W' or do you think he would have seized the momentum to make it happen?

No, Gore would not have been anything like the war-mongering idiot boy we have now and have had for the last eight years. To assert otherwise is to be completely delusional.

by Steven Leser (228 articles, 49 quicklinks, 34 diaries, 1647 comments) on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 4:53:02 PM
 

Either I am delusional..

Or you are naive. We are left to speculate.

Although the United States would obviously be in a different position, I doubt we would be much better off. The forces that truly run this country would still have led us down a path of destruction and debasement. They have control, not the President.

And it seems you forgot to mention the important office of VP, which would have been held by Al and W's buddy, turn-coat Joe. He certainly would not have stood for such transgressions to have take place, right? Oh wait, he has fully supported almost every single damn one! 

Our two Parties are currently fascist to the core. That is why there is no room for Paul, Nader, Kucinich, Gravel or anyone who proposes a legitimate change.

Continued faith in the criminals, liars, and cheats is not only naive, but extremely dangerous.

by Ferdinand (17 articles, 4 quicklinks, 32 diaries, 237 comments) on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 at 5:20:46 PM
 

Agreement

I find myself pretty much in agreement here Ferdinand. Gore was, and I believe, is, a creature of the DLC. Most of the actions would likely have occurred with Gore/Lieberman even if the process was slightly different, because of the DLC. For example old Joe would still have supported Israel as ardently as he has over the last eight years and the Israeli lobby would still be driving US Middle East policy, thus our likely involvement in Iraq .

Gore is an environmental 'leader' in the terms of the Democratic Party, but he never puts responsibility for much of the pollution where it belongs, on the corporations. What is with that?

I don't think, however, we would have seen anywhere near as much deterioration in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Gore would not likely have damaged our core political process. Therefore the hand of corporate control would have continued in much more subtle vein, as under Clinton, but we would still have privacy, habeas corpus etc.

by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 428 comments) on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 at 5:58:37 PM
 

Really?

Jack wrote: "Therefore the hand of corporate control would have continued in much more subtle vein, as under Clinton, but we would still have privacy, habeas corpus etc."

I don't think so. I don't think Gore could have prevented 9/11, and the plans to use the next shock/catastrophe to destroy the Constitution were already in place and had been for a long time. 

Gore could not have withstood the pressure. This is the man who cared so little about Bush being President that when he conceded he said it was for the good of the country. He was a Washington insider all his life and he knew who Bush was, knew the family, and he didn't see any problems with the Bush agenda. 

He also didn't care about democracy or Democrats. When Florida illegally purged Democrats from the rolls, they committed election fraud and their electoral votes were fraudulent. But when the Congressional Black Caucus tried to protest, Al Gore personally ordered the Democratic Senators not to sign the CBC petition. And then he smirkingly told a Congressional Black Caucus that was outraged and close to weeping, that they needed a Senator's signature, knowing that he himself had ordered the Democratic Senators not to sign.

He also knew who Joe Lieberman was. The story that he didn't know the man he chose for his running mate is absurd. Gore didn't make a fuss when Clinton pushed through GATT. He's corporate all the way.

It is the Democrats who still believe that some Democrats are in some way different from Republicans who are delusional. The Republicans flagrantly favor the interests of the military-industrial complex and the big multinationals. The Democrats favor the same interests, but a bit less flagrantly. 

Gore would never have opposed the health care, pharmaceutical, and insurance interests to push through a national health plan. He's a go along to get along team player, not a revolutionary.

Both Democratic candidates are commited to war, so nothing will change if either one of them wins. If Hillary wins, she'll play Margaret Thatcher and expand the wars or start a new one so as to be a war President and show that a woman can be as tough as a man. And if Barack wins, since his mentor was good old Joe Lieberman, he'll turn into a Republican. Both can be counted upon to issue blanket pardons to anyone in the Bush administration who wants or needs one, particularly to Bush and Cheney, since they will be continuing the war crimes and will need pardons themselves. It's a precedent and a professional courtesy.

Al Quedah was a CIA creation, the data base of terrorists that the CIA used to oppose the Russians in Afghanistan. The U.S. sent the Taliban a little over $40 million just a few months before 9/22, when they were known to be harboring Bin Laden. How can you "beware" people on your payroll?

I don't remember Gore protesting when Clinton cut social programs. He talks a good environmental game, but talk is cheap and he doesn't walk his talk. He not only didn't oppose them, he let the corporations that are destroying the environment sponsor his movie.  That's called greenwashing.

Gore is DLC, the DLC is Republican and when the leadership of the Democratic Party is Republican, it is no mystery why they are protecting Bush and Cheney from impeachment. 

All the posturing about investigations and subpoenas is nonsense--if they wanted to hold Republicans accountable they wouldn't have confirmed Mukasey and they'd be willing to at least talk about impeachment, to put it back on the table. To claim to oppose Bush or the Bush agenda but be unwilling to even discuss impeachment is sheer hypocrisy. They are not an opposition party and Gore is a party loyalist, so whatever the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission wanted done, he'd have done.

by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Thursday, May 29, 2008 at 4:04:59 AM
 

Mark you covered it pretty well

Thank you Mark you covered it pretty well. The only notable point I believe you missed was Gores proposal to turn the National Gard into the federal police, overseeing all police in the country. Basically the same thing W did with starting the department of homeland security. The difference being Gore would have used an existing agency instead of starting a new one. This is about the extent of the difference between democrats and republicans. The packaging.

by arlen custer (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 286 comments) on Thursday, May 29, 2008 at 7:54:48 AM