Not exactly...

You say "Hey guys, remember that We Won the Congress just few months ago?", but see -- "we" didn't win congress -- we gave it to the rival gang. Now that's a good thing -- we can play 'divide and conquer" too. But the Democrats were never on our side (except for a very few), they are on their side -- they want to be the fascist's fair haired boys and girls, sit by the table, and get first dibs on the scraps.

As for sides of the fence, there are many sides. MY side was never really with the Democrats because the Democrats were never really with me; they are imperialists -- 'kinder, gentler' imperialists, but imperialists all the same, and not on the side of peace, justice, and the people.

Now, it didn't surprise me (or many others) that the Democrats voted to continue the war and steal the oil (and after, all don't forget the illegal no-fly zones and the sanctions under Clinton which amount to siege warfare and genocide), but that doesn't mean they didn't betray the people, including me -- and for that I'm perhaps even more furious at the Democrats than the Republicans who at least were semi-transparent about being gangsters.

Some Democrats are better than others: Carter has better intentions although he's muddle-headed and too easily succumbs to temptation. Lieberman still has one foot in the pits of Hell -- but so does Pelosi and Reid, despite the fact that they are much better at confidence games than raw extortion (although we've seen that from them too).

But let's face it -- any Democrat who is still with the party -- still gives it support -- is either insane, ignorant, stupid, or corrupt to some extent. Even more so for Republicans. People are imperfect, of course, so this is not quite the scathing condemnation it might seem -- we have all been one of those four at one time or another -- but let's not play games and try to rationalize it or pretend that's not the case. Anyone who is "enlightened" and suffers from none of those faults can not be expected to get into imperialist politics, and even more, to get past even the demons guarding the first gate of the upper circle of that Hell.

I've seen a number of comments about "giving up" to refer to those who are breaking all ties to the Democratic party, but that's missing an important point -- the world is not composed of politics anymore than it's composed of money, or words, or laws. Did you ever notice how the politicians solution to virtually every problem is to pass a law against it? Law, to a politician, is like a hammer to the carpenter who thinks everything is a nail. Law is useful, of course, but it's not the beginning of process and problem solving, but only, sometimes, an end result. The beginning is thought, awareness, feeling, consciousness, and pressure either form the people or from 'special interests'. The Civil Rights Act was wonderful, but that resulted from centuries of work by the people who understood the injustice and worked to get everyone to understand it and declare it unacceptable.

That's the real work we need to do, and it has nothing to do with cleaving to a political party -- especially a corrupt party. "When the student is ready the master appears", and when the people are ready the good party, the good government, and the good laws appear. If the people were truly ready for peace then someone like Bush, and the other gangsters, would have been universally laughed off the podiums of debates, and the garbage the media put out would have been an object of derision by the vast majority of citizens. There are people reading here who had those reactions, who understood it all from the start, and now there are more who understand, and that number grows. That's the Work.

by Blue Pilgrim (0 articles, 3 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 998 comments) on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 3:35:08 PM
 

"'we' didn't win congress"

 As you say, exactly. How odd that most Americans cannot even see your point let alone affirm it. Many progressives that do see your point still consider it to be technical. ... Anyway, I wanted to mention that you didn't address one of Cindy's main points -- that America is really not worth fighting for anymore.

by Max Ward (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 43 comments) on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 9:31:24 PM
 

Make Them Eat Theirs

I think the wrong lesson to learn from the passage of the recent 'emergency' war funding bill is that Democrats didn't try. The wrong reaction is to attack the Dems and ignore the Republicans and RNC so that they can set up the 2008 races. They will use opposition research to paint Dem candidates in the worst possible light, they don't need more help from us because they obviously already have the media. I'm afraid I'm seeing the beginning of the end of the Dem majority if people don't get their heads on straight. The concept of 'divide and conquer' is alive and well in the GOP and they're using it right now.  The more we focus on the Dems and the decision we dislike the more room it gives the Republicans to change the topic and reframe it (Luntz again) so that they have the upper hand.  Get out there and focus on the Republicans!

I understand there is heartfelt disappointment by the 'anti-war' crowd, which happens to include me and over 70% of Americans now.  This is not a left/right issue anymore but the media still portrays it that way because it follows their script and we play into it.  The media like the concept of a fight, especially when Dems and Progressives continue to fight among themselves.  Face it, this makes for great GOP/RNC TV.  There will be a lot of moderate Republicans joining the Dems if they see a united front. The White House, the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee (which unfortunately includes Lieberman), and their counterparts in the Republican House are licking their lips and rubbing their hands together watching the Dems hand them 2008.

What better way to keep the pressure off Republican candidates than to keep dividing the Democrats! Then the RNC/GOP can spend all their time and money putting the focus on the Dems because they won't have to defend themselves or their positions against any real and powerful opposition.  If you really want to change things, stop eating your own!

All the time and energy being expended on Dems attacking Dems would be better spent going after the 21 Republican Senators (and over 200 House Republicans that are listed below) who are up for re-election in 2008. With a wider margin, face it one is not enough, in the Senate the Democratic Congress becomes much more powerful and can override anything the Republicans, with Lieberman's help, can throw up. You can't win if your cutting your own party to ribbons (internal Swiftboating). The Senators/States in play are:

Lamar Alexander (R) of Tennessee
Thad Cochran (R) of Mississippi (possibly retiring 2008)
Wayne Allard (R) of Colorado (possibly retiring 2008)
Larry Craig (R) of Idaho (possibly retiring 2008)
Chuck Hagel (R) of Nebraska
John Warner (R) of Virginia
Saxby Chambliss (R) of Georgia (vote caging/electronic vote machines)
Norm Coleman (R) of Minnesota
Susan Collins (R) of Maine
John Cornyn (R) of Texas
Elizabeth Dole (R) of North Carolina
Pete Domenici (R) of New Mexico
Michael Enzi (R) of Wyoming
Lindsey Graham (R) of South Carolina
Jim Inhofe (R) of Oklahoma
Mitch McConnell (R) of Kentucky (minority leader wife runs Labor Dept)
Pat Roberts (R) of Kansas (lied about Intelligence investigations)
Jeff Sessions (R) of Alabama
Gordon Smith (R) of Oregon
Ted Stevens (R) of Alaska
John Sununu (R) of New Hampshire (vote caging)

The only way this horrible war (in which I have three relatives fighting) can be stopped is to go on the attack against the GOP/RNC so that sufficient majorities are available in Congress to push legislation through that will make difference.



The following list includes all Republican incumbent House members up for re-election in 2008.  Let's put pressure on THEM starting today and NOT ending until we see the door hit them in the butt on the way out.

ALABAMA
01 Jo Bonner ......Mobile
02 Terry Everett ......Rehobeth
03 Mike Rogers ......Anniston
04 Robert B. Aderholt ......Haleyville
06 Spencer Bachus ......Vestavia Hills

ALASKA
At Large Don Young ......Fort Yukon

ARIZONA
01 Rick Renzi ......Flagstaff
02 Trent Franks ......Glendale
03 John B. Shadegg ......Phoenix
06 Jeff Flake ......Mesa

ARKANSAS
03 John Boozman ......Rogers

CALIFORNIA
02 Wally Herger ......Marysville
03 Daniel E. Lungren ......Gold River
04 John T. Doolittle ......Roseville
19 George Radanovich ......Mariposa
1 Devin Nunes ......Tulare
22 Kevin McCarthy ......Bakersfield
24 Elton Gallegly ......Simi Valley
25 Howard P. ''Buck'' McKeon ......Santa Clarita
26 David Dreier ......San Dimas
40 Edward R. Royce ......Fullerton
41 Jerry Lewis ......Redlands
42 Gary G. Miller ......Diamond Bar
44 Ken Calvert ......Corona
45 Mary Bono ......Palm Springs
46 Dana Rohrabacher ......Huntington Beach
48 John Campbell ......Irvine
49 Darrell E. Issa ......Vista
50 Brian P. Bilbray ......Carlsbad
52 Duncan Hunter ......Alpine

COLORADO
04 Marilyn N. Musgrave ......Fort Morgan
05 Doug Lamborn ......Colorado Springs
06 Thomas G. Tancredo ......Littleton

CONNECTICUT
04 Christopher Shays ......Bridgeport

DELAWARE
At Large Michael N. Castle ......Wilmington

FLORIDA (VERIFIABLE VOTING WILL TAKE CARE OF THESE.  REPUBLICANS CAN'T WIN WITHOUT CHEATING INCLUDING CAGING MILITARY VOTES)

01 Jeff Miller ......Chumuckla
04 Ander Crenshaw ......Jacksonville
05 Ginny Brown-Waite ......Brooksville
06 Cliff Stearns ......Ocala
07 John L. Mica ......Winter Park
08 Ric Keller ......Orlando
09 Gus M. Bilirakis ......Palm Harbor
10 C. W. Bill Young ......Indian Shores
12 Adam H. Putnam ......Bartow
13 Vern Buchanan ......Sarasota
14 Connie Mack ......Fort Myers
15 Dave Weldon ......Indialantic
18 Ileana Ros-Lehtinen ......Miami
21 Lincoln Diaz-Balart ......Miami
24 Tom Feeney ......Oviedo
25 Mario Diaz-Balart ......Miami

GEORGIA
01 Jack Kingston ......Savannah
03 Lynn A. Westmoreland ......Grantville
06 Tom Price ......Roswell
07 John Linder ......Duluth
09 Nathan Deal ......Gainesville
11 Phil Gingrey ......Marietta

IDAHO
01 Bill Sali ......Kuna
02 Michael K. Simpson ......Idaho Falls

ILLINOIS
06 Peter J. Roskam ......Wheaton
10 Mark Steven Kirk ......Highland Park
11 Jerry Weller ......Morris

ILLINOIS

10 Mark Steven Kirk ......Highland Park
11 Jerry Weller ......Morris
13 Judy Biggert ......Hinsdale
14 J. Dennis Hastert ......Yorkville
15 Timothy V. Johnson ......Urbana
16 Donald A. Manzullo ......Egan
18 Ray LaHood ......Peoria
19 John Shimkus ......Collinsville

INDIANA
03 Mark E. Souder ......Fort Wayne
04 Steve Buyer ......Monticello
05 Dan Burton ......Indianapolis
06 Mike Pence ......Columbus

IOWA
04 Tom Latham ......Alexander
05 Steve King ......Kiron

KANSAS
01 Jerry Moran ......Hays
04 Todd Tiahrt ......Goddard

KENTUCKY
01 Ed Whitfield ......Hopkinsville
02 Ron Lewis ......Cecilia
04 Geoff Davis ......Hebron
05 Harold Rogers ......Somerset

LOUISIANA
01 Bobby Jindal ......Kenner
04 Jim McCrery ......Shreveport
05 Rodney Alexander ......Quitman
06 Richard H. Baker ......Baton Rouge
07 Charles W. Boustany Jr. ......Lafayette

MARYLAND
01 Wayne T. Gilchrest ......Kennedyville
06 Roscoe G. Bartlett ......Frederick

MICHIGAN
02 Peter Hoekstra ......Holland
03 Vernon J. Ehlers ......Grand Rapids
04 Dave Camp ......Midland
06 Fred Upton ......St. Joseph
07 Tim Walberg ......Tipton
08 Mike Rogers ......Brighton
09 Joe Knollenberg ......Bloomfield Hills
10 Candice S. Miller ......Harrison Township
11 Thaddeus G. McCotter ......Livonia

MINNESOTA
02 John Kline ......Lakeville
03 Jim Ramstad ......Minnetonka
06 Michele Bachmann ......Stillwater

MISSISSIPPI
01 Roger F. Wicker ......Tupelo
03 Charles W. ''Chip'' Pickering ......Hebron

MISSOURI
02 W. Todd Akin ......St. Louis
06 Sam Graves ......Tarkio
07 Roy Blunt ......Springfield
08 Jo Ann Emerson ......Cape Girardeau
09 Kenny C. Hulshof ......Columbia
MONTANA
At Large Dennis R. Rehberg ......Billings

NEBRASKA
01 Jeff Fortenberry ......Lincoln
02 Lee Terry ......Omaha
03 Adrian Smith ......Gering

NEVADA
02 Dean Heller ......Carson City
03 Jon C. Porter ......Henderson


NEW JERSEY
02 Frank A. LoBiondo ......Ventnor
03 Jim Saxton ......Mount Holly
04 Christopher H. Smith ......Hamilton
05 Scott Garrett ......Wantage
07 Mike Ferguson ......Warren Township
11 Rodney P. Frelinghuysen ......Morristown

NEW MEXICO
01 Heather Wilson ......Albuquerque
02 Stevan Pearce ......Hobbs

NEW YORK
03 Peter T. King ......Seaford
13 Vito Fossella ......Staten Island
23 John M. McHugh ......Pierrepont Manor
25 James T. Walsh ......Syracuse
26 Thomas M. Reynolds ......Clarence
29 John R. ''Randy'' Kuhl Jr. ......Hammondsport

NORTH CAROLINA
05 Virginia Foxx ......Grandfather Community
06 Howard Coble ......Greensboro
08 Robin Hayes ......Concord
09 Sue Wilkins Myrick ......Charlotte
10 Patrick T. McHenry ......Cherryville

OHIO
01 Steve Chabot ......Cincinnati
02 Jean Schmidt ......Miami Township
03 Michael R. Turner ......Dayton
04 Jim Jordan ......Urbana
05 Paul E. Gillmor ......Tiffin
07 David L. Hobson ......Springfield
08 John A. Boehner ......West Chester
12 Patrick J. Tiberi ......Galena
14 Steven C. LaTourette ......Concord Township
15 Deborah Pryce ......Columbus
16 Ralph Regula ......Navarre

OKLAHOMA
01 John Sullivan ......Tulsa
03 Frank D. Lucas ......Cheyenne
04 Tom Cole ......Moore
05 Mary Fallin ......Oklahoma City

OREGON
02 Greg Walden ......Hood River

PENNSYLVANIA
03 Phil English ......Erie
05 John E. Peterson ......Pleasantville
06 Jim Gerlach ......Chester Springs
09 Bill Shuster ......Hollidaysburg
15 Charles W. Dent ......Allentown
16 Joseph R. Pitts ......Kennett Square
18 Tim Murphy ......Pittsburgh
19 Todd Russell Platts ......York

PUERTO RICO
Commissioner Luis G. Fortuño ......Guaynabo

SOUTH CAROLINA
01 Henry E. Brown Jr. ......Hanahan
02 Joe Wilson ......Springdale
03 J. Gresham Barrett ......Westminster
04 Bob Inglis ......Travelers Rest

TENNESSEE
01 David Davis ......Johnson City
02 John J. Duncan Jr. ......Knoxville
03 Zach Wamp ......Chattanooga
07 Marsha Blackburn ......Brentwood

TEXAS
01 Louie Gohmert ......Tyler
02 Ted Poe ......Humble
03 Sam Johnson ......Plano
04 Ralph M. Hall ......Rockwall
05 Jeb Hensarling ......Dallas
06 Joe Barton ......Ennis
07 John Abney Culberson ......Houston
08 Kevin Brady ......The Woodlands
10 Michael T. McCaul ......Austin
11 K. Michael Conaway ......Midland
12 Kay Granger ......Fort Worth
13 Mac Thornberry ......Clarendon
14 Ron Paul ......Surfside
19 Randy Neugebauer ......Lubbock
21 Lamar Smith ......San Antonio
24 Kenny Marchant ......Coppell
26 Michael C. Burgess ......Lewisville
31 John R. Carter ......Round Rock
32 Pete Sessions ......Dallas

UTAH
01 Rob Bishop ......Brigham City
03 Chris Cannon ......Mapleton

VIRGINIA
01 Jo Ann Davis ......Gloucester
02 Thelma D. Drake ......Norfolk
04 J. Randy Forbes ......Chesapeake
05 Virgil H. Goode Jr. ......Rocky Mount
06 Bob Goodlatte ......Roanoke
07 Eric Cantor ......Richmond
10 Frank R. Wolf ......Vienna
11 Tom Davis ......Vienna

WASHINGTON
04 Doc Hastings ......Pasco
05 Cathy McMorris Rodgers ......Deer Lake
08 David G. Reichert ......Auburn

WEST VIRGINIA
02 Shelley Moore Capito ......Charleston

WISCONSIN
01 Paul Ryan ......Janesville
05 F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. ......Menomonee Falls
06 Thomas E. Petri ......Fond du Lac

WYOMING
At Large Barbara Cubin ......Casper

by peggy (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 9:06:57 PM