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December 24, 2006 at 08:56:25

Why I Comment

by Clifford Hoeft     Page 1 of 2 page(s)

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Why I Comment;

I comment to Articles written by others. On the whole, they are Liberal authors. It's not that I don't read Articles written from a right sided slant, because I do. I just see no reason to respond to Idiots... It is a waste of resources.



You see, from my perspective, any author / contributor that has the required skills to formulate coherent sentences into a point of view and has proved themselves competent enough with 'life-skills ' to put it in front of me on-line, automatically negates their worth as Human Beings.

I know it sounds harsh, but that's the kind of guy I am. I do what I do to live my life on a daily basis, I conduct myself honorably. I demand honorable treatment from others.

I treat others with respect, I insist on being respected.

I am positive, that if 300 million other Americans DEMANDED to be respected as I do, our Nation's very Sovereignty would not now be in jeopardy of confiscation by globalistic, privately owed entities. It's not only the freedom of Americans that is in jeopardy. We are the ' keystone '. When Americans lose their constitutional power, the people of the Earth are en-slaved.

There will be no way out from then on.

WE, the Freest People in the World, are Freely surrendering the people of the World's Freedom.

These monsters have used OUR NATION as a ' stepping stone ' to World dominance.

In AMERICA'S name, these people have created CHAOS for a local people Against their neighbors through out history. In the wake of any violent uprising they bring a higher level of industrialization and a tighter control on the citizen. The resulting workers are exploited and trained to be 'WESTERNIZED'.

I have NO time or effort to spare, trying to convince the enemy of their cruelty, greed, or short-sightedness. It is enough for me to recognize the fact that they have as much access to the pertinent knowledge as I, and choose to defend the indefensible.

That makes them the enemy in my eyes.

When I post a comment, I invariably attempt to convey my opinion to a fellow Liberal to reinforce his knowledge base. I read the Articles to increase my knowledge base. The diversity of my knowledge base enables me carry on a dialog with store clerks and fellow workers to help bring their rage to the surface.

When I write, It is to the American voter who has heard lots of stories, some they think are preposterous, they are not sure why they feel foolish for even politely listening with a condescending smile to ' conspiracy ' theories.

I tell them about Media Control.

I have an idea how liberals should go about wiping the ' smirk ' of their faces. I think that a majority of the people I DO talk to, would turn into a revolutionary if any one of ten things were proven to be true. Of course a truly trusted judge would be required, but with Media under 100% control, how could you tell?

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I am a tramp IBEW electrician. I have traveled around America for the last 31 years. I go to where the interesting job is going up.I usually like to work heavy industrial, new construction. I hire on to a project and start working myself out of a job. When the structure is finished I hit the road, and travel to the next project I am willing to work on. I read for entertainment. My reading lately is to expose the Globalist plan. I believe a very few men have pushed for the same goal for at least the last 1000 years.

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I'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com
Mark E. SmithI'm an anti-civilizationist and election boycott advocate in San Diego. For reasons not to vote in faith-based elections with secret vote counts for candidates you cannot hold accountable if they fail to represent you, check out the discussions, articles, and videos on my website http://noinnovember.ning.com

You're doing a great job, Cliff.

Waking people up is important. Investigations are needed.

But there are some things that we already know that should have us outraged.

I recently watched an old military film, "The Army in Space." It talked about how our military technology has allowed us to "take the high ground." We all know that we have satellites in space that can read the license plate number of a vehicle on the ground, remote-controlled weapons like the Predator that can send photos back to a computer screen as it flies and allow the operator to bomb anything that looks suspicious, and that we have spent so much money on the military that the Pentagon can "lose" $2.3 trillion dollars and not even notice because they're awash in so much money.

So why are our troops and our allies still dying of "friendly fire?" Why are we still bombing wedding parties by mistake instead of terrorists? Why are our troops still dying in the mud of Iraq, victims of very low-tech, inexpensive stuff like Kalashnikovs and improvised explosive devices?

Why are we using million-dollar missiles to destroy $15 huts in Afghanistan?

It occurred to me the other evening that our military technology has done for us exactly what our computerized voting machine technology has done to our elections: cost us a fortune and made us less rather than more secure.

The mainstream media is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the military-industrial complex that is running our government and seeks to dominate the world.

And all we have is this site and comments like yours with which to oppose it. But even if that is the equivalent of using rifles against helicopters and stones against tanks, it is possible for us to win if we have the will. Because the war profiteers don't want to win. They just want to keep making money from continued destruction. They don't care how many of our troops they sacrifice and how much weaponry they use, because all they care about is getting more of those multi-billion-dollar no-bid defense contracts.

Think about it. Before Donald Rumsfeld sent troops to Iraq, his generals told him how many troops with exactly what gear he'd have to send in order to win, and he fired the generals and sent over inadequate numbers of troops without even giving them the body and vehicle armor they'd need. He wasn't looking to win, he wanted a long drawn-out war with trillions of dollars in defense contracts, and that's what he has gotten.

Even if they confiscated every last dime that every person in this country has, the Bush regime couldn't pay back the deficit they've run up. They're dependent upon loans from China and Japan, and those countries only continue to lend Bush money because we're buying their goods. A simple consumer boycott could bring down the whole house of cards.

Millions of children and the elderly in America will be going without enough food, and lacking adequate shelter and health care this Christmas, because there isn't enough money for social programs, but Congress is determined to increase the defense budget and give Bush every cent of the billions he is asking for. These aren't our representatives, they're the representatives of the defense contractors that they and/or their families own stock in. They don't care about us, they just care about their stock portfolios.

They haven't been good boys and girls and we shouldn't be buying them any Christmas presents. As long as we're paying for war, there will never be Peace on Earth.

Keep fighting the good fight, bro. And remember that we have something that the ruling elite does not: they just want to make money -- we want to win back our country and our world.

by Mark E. Smith (21 articles, 30 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 1325 comments) on Sunday, December 24, 2006 at 7:01:47 PM
 


The author lives in Eugene, OR. Interests include 'Group Psychotherapy' and 'Psychodrama'. She is also an RN. One 'Favorite Quote': 'Insanity is the exception in individuals. In groups, parties, peoples and times it is the rule.' ......Friedrich Nietzsche
Katrin R.The author lives in Eugene, OR. Interests include 'Group Psychotherapy' and 'Psychodrama'. She is also an RN. One 'Favorite Quote': 'Insanity is the exception in individuals. In groups, parties, peoples and times it is the rule.' ......Friedrich Nietzsche

great comment

You know so much, and yet I am always surprised, and baffled by your 'simple, and final statement', that the right, or our leaders have only one common goal and interest, and which is 'money'. With you, and for them, it ends with money, and getting richer.

Even a more noble wish, or goal...like 'health' is by itself not the end, or ultimate, or sufficient. A sick person may wish he was healthy, like a poor person may wish he was rich, because.....?

These people you are talking about are already rich, so they come from a different place than poor people. Rich people have as many problems as poor people, it is just that the problems are different. If they didn't have so much money, many of the problems they do have would be cured, and they would then have other problems. At least, when you are poor, the problem is more external vs. internal. With rich people, it always seems like their problems are all their fault, and when you are poor, it's either other people's fault, or if not, at least it's not your own fault.

My point is, that if you are correct about your assumption that all that matters to these bad rich people is more money, then there is something seriously wrong with them. Then, they are sick. Then , why...? But being well off is not the equivalent of being greedy, and selfish, and uncaring, and criminal, etc, at all as a rule.

I wish you would give this matter some more thought. Katrin

PS: "We want our world back." Our world is 'HISTORY', and consistent with the world throughout time, and back many centuries....
We are animals first, and people second. I agree with you, that the latter, and our cognitive abilities could be put to better us, just as is the case with money. But by abusing our brains, we become , and have in many ways, already become so much less than any animal.

(I don't know if this comment is clear, and I am too tired to go through it.
I don't have the answers, and I am serious and honest in asking you to explore this a little more, because I do respect you)

Also, any/everybody else, if you have.......

by Katrin R. (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 11 diaries, 514 comments) on Monday, December 25, 2006 at 11:30:39 PM
 


I've been a musician for 40 years.married with 5 kids.
larry boothI've been a musician for 40 years.married with 5 kids.

Ardee....

I agree with you completely! I'm also a little confused by his 2nd paragraph. Is he saying that if you have the brains and ability to communicate a point of view that you are less than human? If so, I don't get it.

by larry booth (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 301 comments) on Monday, December 25, 2006 at 12:17:51 PM
 


About me: *I am a Christian. One who believes in the lord, but also respects science (and other peoples beliefs and non-beliefs too). ...and I have no need to add the prefix "True" before the word "Christian", because either you are telling the "Truth" or you are not. *I have been married for __ years. I have a wonderful wife and two wonderful kids. *My web site is the work of one person. *I am a private individual. *I am not funded by any group. *I sincerely value human life (dem...

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RCGAbout me: *I am a Christian. One who believes in the lord, but also respects science (and other peoples beliefs and non-beliefs too). ...and I have no need to add the prefix "True" before the word "Christian", because either you are telling the "Truth" or you are not. *I have been married for __ years. I have a wonderful wife and two wonderful kids. *My web site is the work of one person. *I am a private individual. *I am not funded by any group. *I sincerely value human life (dem...

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What's Not To Get?

Although the second paragraph could have been better, to be fair, it's easy to understand, if you are willing to put it in the perspective of what was said before. I am and so I get it. Here is what it means (in my "layman's terms"): If these right-wingers are intelligent enough to be able to form their opinion and to put their opinion on-line, then they are also intelligent enough to know that what they are supporting is wrong (i.e. unethical, immoral, etc.). Furthermore, the author goes on to illustrate that they (i.e. right-wingers) know that it is wrong to support these absolutely barbaric and brutal criminal "monsters" that "have used OUR NATION as a ' stepping stone ' to World dominance". And I completely agree with Cliff on this - Those who support the atrocities of the right-wing - such as rape, torture, and murder of hundreds of thousands of men, women, children, and BABIES, etcetera... - indeed they do - "automatically" negate "their worth as Human Beings". They are scum. You do not have to agree, however, if you don't, then I certainly wouldn't turn my back on you or ever leave my baby alone with you...

Btw, Ardee, you often make a lot of great comments, but this time, I would ask you this - hypothetically speaking, is it not possible that (largely) those who do not share the authors beliefs and understanding, of history, science, current events and politics (etc.) are idiots? For example, my I.Q. puts me ahead of 99% of the population and I have devoted my life to the study of history, science, current events and politics, etc. So I ask you, is it not possible that those who would disagree with me are likely to be wrong? Especially when the topic is something that I have devoted decades to studying? Now don't think that I am an arrogant know it all - because I readily admit my weaknesses, such as my lack of knowledge of the rules of grammar - rules which I only memorized in college - because for some "eccentric" reason, I just don't give a shit about them? And please, pardon my "french".

Cliff, thanks for a great article.

by RCG (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 348 comments) on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 at 8:30:01 AM
 


My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
Member banned on June 3, 2008 for repeated abuse of editors.

ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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Thanks and no thanks

You said:
Btw, Ardee, you often make a lot of great comments, but this time, I would ask you this - hypothetically speaking, is it not possible that (largely) those who do not share the authors beliefs and understanding, of history, science, current events and politics (etc.) are idiots? For example, my I.Q. puts me ahead of 99% of the population and I have devoted my life to the study of history, science, current events and politics, etc. So I ask you, is it not possible that those who would disagree with me are likely to be wrong? Especially when the topic is something that I have devoted decades to studying? Now don't think that I am an arrogant know it all - because I readily admit my weaknesses, such as my lack of knowledge of the rules of grammar - rules which I only memorized in college - because for some "eccentric" reason, I just don't give a shit about them? And please, pardon my "french".

My response:

This is a democracy you may understand, one in which people are simply normal folks, most do not make politics their primary concern, putting family, career, whatever before political concerns. This does not make them idiots. Frankly only an idiot would call someone who disagrees with his politics an idiot.

Why do you come here if not to affect change? How does one affect change in a democracy? By getting good candidates to run for office and persuading people to vote for them. A surprising number of folks will remain unconvinced in their voting should they be wooed by calling them idiots...I hope I made myself clear.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 7:36:28 AM
 


I am a tramp IBEW electrician. I have traveled around America for the last 31 years. I go to where the interesting job is going up.I usually like to work heavy industrial, new construction. I hire on to a project and start working myself out of a job. When the structure is finished I hit the road, and travel to the next project I am willing to work on. I read for entertainment. My reading lately is to expose the Globalist plan. I believe a very few men have pushed for the same goal for at least ...

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cliff567I am a tramp IBEW electrician. I have traveled around America for the last 31 years. I go to where the interesting job is going up.I usually like to work heavy industrial, new construction. I hire on to a project and start working myself out of a job. When the structure is finished I hit the road, and travel to the next project I am willing to work on. I read for entertainment. My reading lately is to expose the Globalist plan. I believe a very few men have pushed for the same goal for at least ...

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Power to the People, Power to the People right-on

I'm going to take a stand here and try to justify it.

My stand is that Capitalism is the enemy to the common man.

My justification for this determination is from my perspective of the history.

I call the 'common man' , those that are required by necessity to direct time and effort to maintaining their sustenance.

Sustenance can be allowed a generous degree of interpretation here.

A parent, providing a better existence for their child is the root of civilization, Ultimately, weather they are governed by dictator or benevolent democracy, parents want a better life for THEIR children. That is the very natural and healthy, Genetic survival mode doing it's job. You are Naturally providing effort to allow your genetic line to survive.

That is the 'hook'.

When they say that capitalism is the man being allowed to give his hard earned, life savings to his progeny, we all see the justice in it. We all work for our own sustenance and the betterment of our loved ones lives. We include our grandchildren in that. My earnings are for my family when I'm gone. That is genetic emotion that makes us bite. but hooked we are.

Because of that base emotion every common man has in fine tune, that of protecting their progeny, we have allowed our liberty to be usurped. That is the hook we are on. We were lured in and hooked by an angler. We are talking about the guy who tied the fly here.

I believe the Templar's found, and still possess, an information source. I believe that there is a VERY small group of people alive today, who are still in control of access to that information source. I believe that they direct the objectives of the World's citizens,and the direction their lives take. By creating the rules of existing society as if from a script.

The world changed dramatically because of the Knights Templar's existence. But never forget, the Templar's were sent by someone. Not an individual, but a group of already well positioned accomplices. They already knew what they were after and where it was. I believe they created the first crusade as cover, to give these 8 guys time and safety to dig. When they found what they were looking for, the very nature of Western Society lurched. After 500 years of anarchy and political CHAOS, ORDER was restored. The 'Dark Ages' were over. Because of the Knights Templar.

I see a pretty strong link to all leaders of western society in finances, education, religion, science, and research directed by a small interwoven group of individuals with interlocking genetic links. We are being played on a 2 lb. tippet.

I believe there is a script. I want to read it.
cliff
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by cliff567 (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 165 comments) on Thursday, December 28, 2006 at 8:11:09 AM
 


My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
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Fishing with a light line

I completely agree with the assessment of Capitalism that you propose above. I relate your stuff about the Templars to the "not enough information" department.

The Knights Templar, who pursued the Crusade to regain Jerusalem from the Muslims, brought chaos to the Middle East. Bush brought chaos to the Middle East. Were both motivated by a behind the scenes strategy that benefitted from such chaos? I do not know.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 9:49:59 AM
 


I am a tramp IBEW electrician. I have traveled around America for the last 31 years. I go to where the interesting job is going up.I usually like to work heavy industrial, new construction. I hire on to a project and start working myself out of a job. When the structure is finished I hit the road, and travel to the next project I am willing to work on. I read for entertainment. My reading lately is to expose the Globalist plan. I believe a very few men have pushed for the same goal for at least ...

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cliff567I am a tramp IBEW electrician. I have traveled around America for the last 31 years. I go to where the interesting job is going up.I usually like to work heavy industrial, new construction. I hire on to a project and start working myself out of a job. When the structure is finished I hit the road, and travel to the next project I am willing to work on. I read for entertainment. My reading lately is to expose the Globalist plan. I believe a very few men have pushed for the same goal for at least ...

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As I was saying about Idiots

Ardee said;

Hey Cliff ,guess which finger Im holding up.....

"... I care not a fig for your (constant) critiques of my posts as Negative Vibes (whatever the F*@k those may be), so chill the hell out or just ignore me. Im certainly going to ignore you forthwith. ..."

by Ardee
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To that,Cliff says again;

Knowledge is freedom.

You should read more diversely.

You should also remember who you have trashed talked in the past.
In my world respect is an Earned commodity.
I find you unworthy.

by cliff567

by cliff567 (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 165 comments) on Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 10:48:18 AM
 


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ardee D.My name it means nothing, my age it means less. My deeds of activism are mine to enjoy and share as I feel necesary, not as some clown in a small forum's administration thinks I must..This place gets worse each and every visit.
Member banned on June 3, 2008 for repeated abuse of editors.

It is important to note

that my rudeness was in response to your bigotted nonsense about Mulims being unable to rule themselves and the record plainly shows you to have been the instigator by casting the first insults. I have no problems responding in kind, honest debate or silly insults, it is always your choice.

by ardee D. (6 articles, 4 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 2377 comments) on Sunday, December 31, 2006 at 6:50:58 PM
 


Union Construction Electrician for the past 21 years. Former United States Marine 1982 - 1986 who participated in the Multinational Peacekeeping Force sent to Beirut, Lebanon back in 1983.
SleeperUnion Construction Electrician for the past 21 years. Former United States Marine 1982 - 1986 who participated in the Multinational Peacekeeping Force sent to Beirut, Lebanon back in 1983.

Thanks for the comments

Cliff,

Thanks for your comments. They offer me particulars on a range of subjects. I've copied excerpts of comments and linked the discussion a few times in other groups. It pisses me of to admit how well I have been hooked and suffered because of my insistance on going after the bait. Thanks, for confirming that at least I'm not alone in my fools garb.

We will make a difference eventually or at least I will die trying. Some fun on the way to eternity certainly lightens the load.

by Sleeper (1 articles, 1 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 276 comments) on Saturday, December 30, 2006 at 2:03:40 PM
 

 

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