I Appreciate your efforts Barbara

I believe the NWO has already picked Obama.  I believe allot of Democrats and third parties want to end America and become part of a NWO to "cleanse themselves" of the USA past they are ashamed of.

by Jeanette Doney (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 304 comments) on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 6:44:28 PM
 

Hi Jeanette

You wrote:

I believe the NWO has already picked Obama.  I believe allot of Democrats and third parties want to end America and become part of a NWO to "cleanse themselves" of the USA past they are ashamed of.

I don't think they are ashamed at all. I think they are creating a New World Order to coincide with the desire of their greedy little black hearts. If they had a conscience they would not be creating a NWO that requires subjugation of a "lesser class" of people to do their bidding, and extermination of 80% of the population with their eugenics programs. The question is, if America ends, what replaces it? If these vipers get their way, the only ones living well will be the rich. The rest of us will either be in serfdom or dead.

by Barbara Peterson (46 articles, 80 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 416 comments) on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 11:14:47 PM
 

I wonder if one of their weaknesses is

underestimating their degree of dependence on oil, and another one is disregarding the capacity of common people to form mutually supportive communities in a crisis. Hmmm...I'd like to hear more speculation on their weaknesses. We need lots of ammo.

by Patricia 0rmsby (3 articles, 5 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 156 comments) on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 7:24:55 PM
 

Some more thoughts

Hi Patricia,

You wrote:

...another one is disregarding the capacity of common people to form mutually supportive communities in a crisis. Hmmm...I'd like to hear more speculation on their weaknesses. We need lots of ammo.

My thoughts: 

I believe there is a lot that people who have no clue about living without oodles of money do not know.  People who feel that they do not need others because their money will buy anything do not know how to form mutually supportive communities, as you have said. They also do not know how to survive with only the basics. Take away their money and they don't know how to act. They do not know how others who have a firmer grip on reality think either. They are sheltered, pampered, and weak. Just the opposite of what they try to portray. Their strength is in their money. Without it they are nothing.

by Barbara Peterson (46 articles, 80 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 416 comments) on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 11:08:11 PM
 

Nailed It

Thanks for the Big Picture.

Reading commerts in these pages is a lot like listening to old ladies on the bus talking about their soap opera 'stories' as though the characters really existed and were free to choose their actions.

I firmly believe there are forces in play--not being written about or discussed in the NWO-controlled press-- that bode very well for us. But the fall of America is certain...which is a good thing. We would otherwise spend the rest of our time frantically trying to plug leaks and bail out this rusted, creaking, sinking bucket of bolts and baling wire when we ought to be peeling off our jackets and resolutely swimming for shore. Once there we can take stock of what is salvageable, and create a habitat that more correctly embodies the principles that America was supposed to

manifest.

See you at the Luau!

by Randje Mitchell (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 65 comments) on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 9:29:01 PM
 

Mistaking metaphors for reality is a dead end

We cannot win from the bottom. We have nowhere to run. Are we going to found a new world on Mars? And even if we could, do you really think there wouldn't be a repeat of the Salem witch trials on Mars, obviously slightly different?

No, we need to fight. The elite are using statistical methods (the diamond age ended long ago bearing little fruit) which leaves a lot of room for subtle and effective revolution.

That's really what they want, for every stage in the historical cycle to bear little or no fruit. 

by Intelitary Milligence (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 39 comments) on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 at 12:17:13 PM
 

John, Hillary, Obama

Three reasons to vote for Nader.

by vidiot (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 245 comments) on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 9:56:37 PM
 

NWO

The whole system is so corrupt - time to start over and form a real democracy.  One where we all become educated on the issues, where there is true transparency and then we vote on the issues directly.

We have the technology to all participate.

Washington is so corrupt - the New World Order is already entrenched. 

Democracy, still a beautiful idea... "We" the people, has a nice ring to it.  Too bad the selfish bastards at the top would rather ruin the planet and see everyone else destitute.

Nice system we have.  The people do the work, the wealthy 2% get everything.   

by August Adams (10 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 458 comments) on Tuesday, May 6, 2008 at 10:58:42 PM
 

Beyond what we know

Hi August,

You wrote:

Democracy, still a beautiful idea... "We" the people, has a nice ring to it.  Too bad the selfish bastards at the top would rather ruin the planet and see everyone else destitute.

I don't remember who said it, but I read somewhere that democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what is for dinner. Democracy is used as a stepping stone for dictatorship. By controlling the masses, you control who gets elected, what laws are made, and just about everything else. That is what is happening, I believe. The next step is total control, and we are so far down this path that it is frightening.

by Barbara Peterson (46 articles, 80 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 416 comments) on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 at 12:21:26 PM
 

Democracy is not a political structure

Democracy is the extent the people can express their individual as well as collective will.

There is no political structure called democracy.

What we have is a republic and the democracy it is supposed to nurture is dying. 

by Intelitary Milligence (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 39 comments) on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 at 12:51:05 PM
 

GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR LOVE TO ME, GIVE A LITTLE BIT

Do you know how Hard it is to be on Top?

We sacrifice so much, and all you rabble have nothing better to do

than complain. 

We want more tax breaks. You think living on a mill per annum is easy? 

From Mother Jones' Site

According to the report, in 2010, when all of the Bush tax cuts will finally

have taken effect, the richest one percent of American families—those

earning $1.6 million annually—will receive, on average, a $92,000 tax cut. As

 a share of the population, these families will account for an estimated 53

 percent of all tax relief, while the poorest 60 percent will be on the

receiving end of just 12-15 percent of tax cuts.

Just what does it take to belong to the richest one percent? Money, of

course, and lots of it. According to the report:

In 2008 the best-off one percent will have an estimated

average income of almost $1.5 million each. Just to get into this

elite group requires an income greater than $462,000. If all of

 that came from wages, then for single people it would take an

average wage of $224 an hour to make it into the top one

 percent, and $722 an hour to become an average member.

 

 Wolfie needs the chauffeur to drive him to the butcher's for

filet mignon. And also I have an appointment at the dog

groomers. Ta ta.

 

by Wolfie (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 33 diaries, 1208 comments) on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 at 2:13:00 PM
 

What the 'Deeppockets' see in their 3 candidates

Thanks Barbara for bringing attention to the Trilateral Commission.

As a historian, will need to cross reference to check on how the list of personages attending becomes known, not to mention the topics discussed and plans put in motion, as it is supposed to be a secret organization.

One notes in the list provided by the newspaper Barbara quotes from re the Trilateral Commission meeting the names of Charles Rose of the PBS program "The Charlie Rose Show" and NY Representative Charles Rangel. If these two are really members or collaborators of this secret nefarious organization, then all satire aside, Rangel is in conflict of interest as a U.S. Representative at the same time as beholden to secrecy to the powerful manipulative Trilateral Commission, and Rose likewise for presenting himself as broadcasting in the public's interest while part of a secret plan to conspire to manage public affairs undemocratically by a powerful private organization.

What seems appropriate is some investigative reporting and some intense scholarship applied to the subject of the Trilateral Commission, for if its membership with invited participants be so large, seems less than credible that secrecy could be maintained.

As to the three corporate backed presidential candidates, one recalls the old Election Day refrain, "tweedle dee and tweedle dum", and the adage, "Hope springs eternal"

One shall best put oneself in the shoes of the most influential and powerful within the establishment's national and demi-world governance.

Obama is obviously their newest and strikingly original figurehead for sanitizing America's horrible imperialist reputation. Deeppocket global conquerors could have a shield of innocence behind which to go on with their imperialist designs. Hard to call an empire racist with an Afro-American as president. Why, just having him in the race is a wonderful example of how 'good' America is to non-whites. And if Obama turns out to be his own man and betrays the hand that put him in power, well, ways could always be found to discredit, disempower or dispose of him.

Another Clinton as president would be business as usual, tried and trusted absolutely reliable and a softer feminine face for military actions. Excellent for domestic half-measures in pretense of meaningful social reforms.

The pathetic McCain candidacy, the bomber of poor little Vietnam, is probably only desired by the most ignorant lunatic fringe as all the intelligent criminally insane masters of American and world capitalism must surely recognize a need for readjustment, retreat, regrouping, even perhaps necessary drastic reforms alla Roosevelt to ensure the continuing dominance of America and capitalism, and for such saving of the situation Obama would certainly be optimally best.

However decadence breeds not only aberrant leadership, wild insanity, and more clever and outrageous use of the ignorance of the herd in desperate clinging to power, so puppet McCain is the candidate for full blown fascism, though his apparent simple-mindedness makes him a man for all seasons including benign rule.

But since hope springs eternal, no man should be suspected beforehand, and it is obvious that if Obama is to be allowed by conglomerate owned media to go through, he must pretend to back the militarism evidenced in the occupations of Afghanistan and Somalia and the blown out of context nuclear prospects of Iran.

Given this sit-con, America's dissidents will have to wait until after the election to join Rev. Wright, who says he will criticize President Obama.

appreciatively,

jay janson

by Jay Janson (83 articles, 0 quicklinks, 6 diaries, 93 comments) on Friday, May 9, 2008 at 11:52:34 AM
 

Hi Jay

A very well thought-out analysis. You might be interested in this book, if you have not already read it. It is titled "Trilaterals Over America" by Antony Sutton. I posted a quicklink to download the entire book in PDF format HERE.

by Barbara Peterson (46 articles, 80 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 416 comments) on Friday, May 9, 2008 at 5:50:45 PM