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April 23, 2008 at 10:06:42
by Barbara Bellows-TerraNova Page 1 of 2 page(s) |
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So, Hillary claims a victory in Pennsylvania. Who could have predicted that? Maybe Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. "I’m not saying anything bad about my candidate but I– it is funny at New Hampshire that all the ones that were hand-counted went for Obama and all the ones that were machine counted went for Hillary." That was Bobby talking to Bill McKibben on the March 8, 2008 broadcast of Ring of Fire Radio (approximately half way in).
Dear Bobby, he couldn’t keep down the ironic chuckles as his endorsee’s primary successes and his knowledge of methods of election theft were irrefutably dancing in front of him.
I’ve been paying attention to RFK Jr. ever since I read his Crimes Against Nature in 2004. With approximately 20 books on Bush under my belt leading up to that election, it was Bobby’s book that was the answer to NPR’s question, "What is the most important book to read before the 2004 Presidential Election?"
Bobby is a brilliant, funny, fearless and passionate speaker. Did you see him at Live Earth last year?
He would be one hell of a great endorser.
If his heart was in it.
But Hillary’s silence on the real voting issues that have been rampant in every state’s primary must give Bobby pause.
The fact that the world has suffered great consequences from the illegitimate certifications of the last two Presidential elections for George W. Bush and his psychologically unhealthy teammates – should be inspiration for legitimate candidates seeking election to demand that voters get to vote and get to have their votes counted.
In each and every primary.
Not just the ones where Senator Clinton won delegates by dishonorably campaigning after an agreement was made that the candidates would not do so.
Senator Clinton’s pretense to care for the voters who deserve to have their votes counted is revealed as rather selective by her silence on the continuous problems that have occurred in every state primary.
Starting with New Hampshire, problems with confusing new voter ID laws irregularly and sometimes illegally enforced, improperly trained poll workers, registered voters missing from lists, shortages of staff and machines and ballots, long lines, voter intimidation, and the stubborn clinging to voting machines that have long since proven to be hackable, unreliable, and unverifiable have resulted in people not voting, votes not counted at all, and incorrect and unverifiable vote tallies across the nation.
But Hillary Clinton has said nothing about any of that.
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Fishy indeed
The exit polls often do not line up with the actual count, either. In a third world country, that is grounds for a riot. Here, it's business as usual. by Roger (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 465 comments [22 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:29:42 AM
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My disbelieving daughter
Nor does she mention Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos – his urging Republicans to vote in Democratic primaries, even if it means they have to switch affiliation, and vote strongly for Senator Clinton. No, my daughter doesn't believe it for one second, which is why I no longer bring it up. Too many other mother/daughter things to argue over. I believe it, but then I was born with two extra genes: One for skepticism; one for cynicism. She, on the other hand, was born with an extra gene for optimism. Too bad we can share them; we both could use a little of both. by Sandy Sand (198 articles, 0 quicklinks, 227 diaries, 1548 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:20:18 PM
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Democrats are ignoring probable election fraud
Maybe it's time to just let the super-delegates decide. As long as they understand that the results of the primaries in NH, PA, NJ, TX and many other states are tainted and may or may not be an actual representation of the will of the voters. by Allegra Dengler (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 1 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:16:40 PM
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Reply: Pa CD7 70-30, 75-25, 80-20 for Obama
by DanielleClarke (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments) on Thursday, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:27:12 AM
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I don't know why I should be surprised...
I keep thinking that sometimes people have to hit rock bottom before they can change. Maybe countries do too. by Colleen McLean (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 3 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:10:09 PM
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This Could Just As Easily
cut the other way. Why do we trust the hand counters? Maybe they were pulling a fast one. Maybe that's what Mr. Kennedy meant. That may be the case -- who watched the counters? Who chose them? Something's fishy but it may not be what you're thinking. by fou (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 98 comments) on Wednesday, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:36:51 PM
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I disagree Fou
It takes one person, operating in secret, to change a machine count without a trace. It taakes quite a bit more subterfuge and planning to change a hand count, in the open, with your neighbors around. by GeoRip (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 47 comments) on Thursday, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:32:02 AM
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Reply: Sounds Familiar
What you describe sounds like the undemocratic caucuses some are fond of -- you can't vote your heart with your neighbors and friends around intimidating you. The whole idea of the sacredness of the secret ballot is gone in those public meetings. And I disagree -- hand counts can be fiddled with -- it may take more effort, it may not. But ballots get lost, thrown away, remarked, overmarked on purpose, miscounted, etc. There are lots of ways to do it. by fou (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 98 comments) on Thursday, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:50:11 AM
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WHERE TO KEEP UP WITH VOTING ISSUES
I'm embarrassed to realize I'd forgotten to give credit to Brad Friedman. As usual, Brad had the goods on the voting machines being used in Pennsylvania -- and the information coming in all day on April 22nd from voters and election observers. The Brad Blog is the place to go for the vast story of the breakdown of elections beginning in late 2004. And let's face it, if we don't get this election thing straightened out, the rest is moot. by Barbara Bellows-TerraNova (25 articles, 1 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 83 comments) on Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 5:04:23 PM
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