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January 17, 2008 at 09:27:04

Wake Up America4

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Well, I guess you've heard already that they have successfully cloned a human being. They have taken over God's most precious gift. Are they going to say, I am your God next, just in case you didn't know it?

P-l-e-a-s-e give me a break. Do you want your daughter marrying a cloned boyfriend so they can make a "half-human" child? Think about it for God's sake. Imagine what that child will have to endure in school with other children who can be so mean to each other for no reason anyway. Since this child will be half-human, it will have feelings for sure. Parents and children alike will discriminate against this child with no mercy. You know it's true. You just might be one of those parents yourself!

Wake up America. We cannot allow this to happen. This is totally and absolutely against God in every aspect. If you are a Christian even a little bit, you cannot allow this to happen. This will be a total abomination to mankind. Just imagine the final outcome:

If the first clone is accepted, then they will modify the next to look perfect, to be intelligent, to have no medical imperfections, and to be genetically predisposed to high expectations; in other words, to be the perfect person. Where does that leave you and I and our children who are not perfect? Eventually, we will all be exterminated and replaced with the perfect people, don't ya know!

Take notice to how this country is changing for the worse. Take notice to how the intelligent powers that be are arranging all our lives, all our supposed rights, all our normal lifestyles so that we are being systematically brainwashed into what they want us to be. Take notice, please. Look at what we are losing:

Our beautiful land for one. Mother Nature must be crying daily to see how her beauty is being totally destroyed. Don't you realize that our trees are so important to our physical being? Don't you realize that we need them more than companies need their paper or other products. Don't you realize that corporations are the enemies of mother nature?

Our food source for two. Why do you think we are so sick all the time? We can't eat anything that is truly healthy for our bodies. When we do eat, we gain so much weight and that, too, is bad for our bodies. Our food is so destroyed with chemicals, additives, fats that we can't even get the real taste of the food any longer. Nothing is pure that comes from the ground. It has been treated with stuff to protect the way it is supposed to look when it originally came out of the ground.

Our health for three. When we get sick, we're given this pill to make that feel better. Then, we get a negative reaction from that pill so we're given another pill to counteract the reaction. Then we're sicker from the counteraction and wind up in a hospital, incurring stupid charges, to be multi-treated for being sick in the first place. The sickness makes us even more sick when we see our bank accounts after paying for the original sickness. Did you follow that?

The point is, we have been programmed into thinking that we need this item to make us more comfortable; that item to make us more in line with the Joneses; the other item to help us feel better from the stress of trying to acquire all the items we think we need. When God gave us everything we needed in the beginning. Everything else was made to make you think it would make your life better, easier, more comfortable, so you can work harder for the man, so he can get his huge bonus at year-end while you work like a dog all year round just trying to purchase all the stuff he produces to make your life easier. Can't you see it's a vicious circle that is ruining everybody's lives?

The world is a dangerous place not because of those who do evil. It's because of those who look on and DO NOTHING!

WAKE UP AMERICA AND DO SOMETHING FOR GOD'S SAKE AND FOR YOUR OWN SAKE!

Let's stop this madness and speak up for what is right. Talk, yell, write, call, send smoke signals, do whatever is necessary to let companies, corporations, farmers, food distributors, retailers and so many others know that we are dissatisfied with their products and services. Make it known and maybe we will make a REAL CHANGE for the better!

God bless and keep all of you.

 

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Brett Paatsch is an Australian born secular humanist with degrees in management and science and an interest in politics. He is a former pro-American that wishes to be pro-American again and thinks the impeachment and repudiation of President George W Bush for the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is necessary to reestablish trust in American signatures on international treaties and confidence in the global rule of law.
Brett PaatschBrett Paatsch is an Australian born secular humanist with degrees in management and science and an interest in politics. He is a former pro-American that wishes to be pro-American again and thinks the impeachment and repudiation of President George W Bush for the invasion of Iraq in March 2003 is necessary to reestablish trust in American signatures on international treaties and confidence in the global rule of law.

Do you realise that identical twins are natural clones?

Its a medical fact. With identical twins the early embryo divides again and forms two embryos with the same genome (set of genes).

Identical twins are more alike than any two twins born at different times could be because the enviroment interacts with the genome, the set of all genes, to produce different phenotypes ("appearances") from identical genomes and identical twins have more closely matching environments than clones born in different times would.  Its not just what we eat and how much but the whole experience of living that interacts with our genes. 

I'm a student of cell biology. Human life takes place on a number of levels. Not only are human sperm and human eggs alive and entirely human but human cancers cells are alive.  Clearly then all forms of human life are not equal in importance.  No religions place cancers on a par with persons.  

Whenever there is an ethical discussion about human beings and human life it helps if that ethical discussion allows known medical facts, facts which are accessible to people of all faiths provided only that they are willing to check them out, get to be a part of that discussion so as to inform it.

To suggest that a person should be concerned about marrying a clone is like suggesting they should be concerned about marrying an identical twin.

The reason to be concerned about human cloning for reproductive purposes at present is that the cellular mechanisms are not fully understood and attempts to clone human beings for reproductive purposes on current knowledge would result in huge medical risks to the embryos and stresses to the parents.  And any parent expecting a predictable outcome it terms of the resulting personality of the child would almost certainly be disappointed and surprised. 

Perhaps in the future cloning for reproductive purposes might be safe and when it is I don't think God will be any more upset to the loss of his or her magisterium than he was when IVF was first practiced.

Because of the complex interactions between genes and environment in all of us there is absolutely no danger of producing two identical human beings - you'd have to perfectly match every detail of their sensory environments - and that no scientist no human can do. 

If your God exists he or she writes the laws of the universe at a level way beyond the level of contemporay science or scientists to mess about with.  Scientists can't control all the chemical reactions in a living thing and its in the set of trillions and trillions of chemical reactions that our human uniqueness arises. The circuitry of our very brains assemble themselves as we grow in complex interplays that are too numerous and subtle to ever be controlled in detail. 

by Brett Paatsch (0 articles, 2 quicklinks, 17 diaries, 773 comments) on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 3:45:14 AM
 


A concerned citizen who wishes to WAKE UP AMERICA to how we are being brainwashed every day by the Powers That Be and that we must use our COMMON SENSE to evaluate what is going on in our country without believing the government who is in charge right now and who has been in charge for over 20 years.
b2008A concerned citizen who wishes to WAKE UP AMERICA to how we are being brainwashed every day by the Powers That Be and that we must use our COMMON SENSE to evaluate what is going on in our country without believing the government who is in charge right now and who has been in charge for over 20 years.

Creation vs Whatever!

Evidently you speak as a "technical medical/scientific expert" because your cynicism regarding God is totally ridiculous to me and of no concern to my post. My post was NOT ABOUT GOD. My post was about the human side of cloning and my concerns of what can be done in a laboratory in the formation of a human, which could be tainted or otherwise treated to be not exactly what it started out to be.

I speak for what is "right" and you speak from scientific logic. Maybe one day the twain shall meet.

Anyway, what you said is correct medically and scientifically, I suppose, but I did not speak on the medical/scientific part of cloning. I spoke on the possibility of a cloned embryo being cellular or genetically rearranged in a lab to be exactly what they want it to be as a person? You cannot respond to that issue because you can't possibly know what one might do behind closed doors to an embryo if you're not there to see it.

I have no problems with your version of twins, triplets, or whatever that naturally comes out of the body as gifts from God. I do, however, have a great problem with laboratory treated humans or animals. Everything detrimental to human life is somehow created in a lab. Think about it.

When you decide to speak as a person instead of a scientific fact machine, then respond as such. I have no qualms with your facts at all. My point is the human side of your facts and what you cannot know if you're not there. That, you need to speak on.

Thank you.

by b2008 (4 articles, 2 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 43 comments) on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 7:29:28 AM
 


A concerned citizen who wishes to WAKE UP AMERICA to how we are being brainwashed every day by the Powers That Be and that we must use our COMMON SENSE to evaluate what is going on in our country without believing the government who is in charge right now and who has been in charge for over 20 years.
b2008A concerned citizen who wishes to WAKE UP AMERICA to how we are being brainwashed every day by the Powers That Be and that we must use our COMMON SENSE to evaluate what is going on in our country without believing the government who is in charge right now and who has been in charge for over 20 years.

Nit & Pit

You can nit and pit my post all you want to. You know what I mean and I don't have to go to that extreme to play these kinds of games. If you have a real complaint about the post, then speak it. Otherwise, don't pick out a few words and make a pointless diatribe about nothing.

There are a lot of things made in a lab that has hurt this country to the core: HIV AIDS for example. Stupid, powerful, money-hungry, satanic, evil men have hurt mankind more than anything else could have and they are still trying to do more evil. Science and evil is not a match that will provide any good for mankind. That's why I say cloning will develop into nothing but more control over our lifestyles because of man's inhumanity to man.

And you can't deny that because you won't necessarily be there when it happens, unless you're a "closet" evil scientist:) which I hope you're not!

Look, all I'm saying is I don't put nothing past people who cannot quit until they find the exact formula to make the perfect human being. They want so badly to be GOD, whether you like it or not. I know it, you know it, and the world knows it. So why keep fighting what you know will happen?

Have a good evening!

by b2008 (4 articles, 2 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 43 comments) on Friday, January 18, 2008 at 8:50:47 PM
 

 

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