There are tons of people around the country who are cursing out the Democrats in general, and Nancy Pelosi and John Conyers in particular, for being wimpy on impeachment. "Impeachment is off the table", proclaimed these worthies; and straightaway massive E-mail and U.S. Postal Service paper hits their offices.
Far be it from me, a Green Party supporter, to defend the Democrats. But on this impeachment issue two of their best and brightest need defending.
Re Pelosi: Consider, folks, what happens if we should be fortunate enough to get a Bill of Impeachment considered on the House floor. Is it remotely conceivable that Cheney, with his low 20s approval ratings and his fingerprints all over all the administration policies, won't get added to the Bill? The answer is clear: it is not conceivable. Then think a step further: Bush and Cheney are tried in the Senate and removed from office. What then? Why, then we get President Nancy Pelosi. And her first speech to the nation after taking the oath of office has got to start: "My fellow citizens, I am an accidental president, the first this country has ever had. I am the first president who has never campaigned across the country for any national office. And you all know that I certainly did nothing to bring me to this podium. I have _never_ supported the impeachment drive, I have kept my fingers far from this movement. You will all recall that back in fall 2007 I urged that impeachment be kept 'off the table' . . ." Etc.
If she doesn't say something like this, if she can't truthfully say something like this, she will never be able to govern. So give the lady a break! She is the last American who can advocate impeachment of the two criminals mentioned above. And hence any utterance she makes on this subject should be discounted.
Re John Conyers: He is supposed to say, before he ever becomes the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, "And now we're finally going to get our own back; we'll impeach the sumbitch"? How would that look?
This is the man who has held private hearings on the crimes we all know about, in the basement office that is all the Repubs would grant him. He has forgotten more about these issues than most of us know, and spent more dreary time on them, taking testimony, reading documents . . .
So be easy on him too. His present role: to take testimony, to listen to witnesses, give Repubs a chance to query said witnesses too, go through the whole business, publicly and formally, that he -- and you and I -- know so well. So let him go through the process. It is our role as citizens to demand that the press watch him, as he moves judiciously through the process that will, we hope and pray, bring our criminal kings down.
Alan McConnell is a retired mathematician, who
lives near D.C. and can deliver written messages
to House and Senate offices.
I'm a radical Trotskyist socialist & criticize the Democratic party & its mirror image, the Republican party, openly. Tact & courtesy are completely wasted upon either party of the USA's so-called 2 party system. Both parties are funded [bought & paid for] by the USA's monied de facto rulers aka the establishment. The failure of the establishment to demand that Representatives Pelosi, Conyers, et al start impeachment proceedings against W & co, including VP Cheney, at once is going to be most costly to the establishment in influence, money, votes & street cred.
The establishment will soon have to dispose of Bush/Cheney, et al in the manner in which former VP Agnew was induced to resign & replaced by a less harmful nonentity as VP, Jerry Ford. Jerry Ford took office as POTUS when Nixon was induced to resign by the GOP's establishment to avoid an(a0 impeachment trial(s) in the Senate & the attendant acrimony, orgy of finger pointing, who knew what questions & continued rule by a compromised, impotent POTUS & chaotic grid lock. The replacment nonentity VP must be chosen carefully in order to prevent any Ford-like pardons for W & crew which produced a climate of bad feelings among voter.
While all 3d parties will benefit by increased membership & donations induced by the probable fatal farce of allowing W & co to remain in office but powerless, the establishment will be forced to engage in a bit of regime change to prevent Iraq's suicidal chaos from gaining a foothold in the USA & probably UK. IT WOULDN'T BE GOOD FOR BUSINESS.
There is also a very remote possibility that the establishment will stop funding the so-called 2 party system because is too incapacitated to be trusted to do the establishments bidding promptly & fully. An incompetent, laughing stock of a failed system puts the establishment's power & profits in unacceptable peril.
Watching the establishment throwing money at an semi-credible 3d party would be amusing till the establishment bought & corrupted enough parties to again rule.
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larry278 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 47 comments)
on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 1:17:47 PM
Pelosi starts from being bad within her heart and mind, and is no use to anyone but her gang of thieves and contract hitters for the Pentagon war machine.
Conyers, on the other hand, has demonstrated that he understands the law and appeared to want to enforce it against the Fiend in Chief.
He went home for a break and came back a changed man. What happened on vacation?
Could it be that they sent an "Intelligence" agent to visit with him and introduced him to one of their old methods used to gain 'Compliance' with their wishes.
There are known to be sound recordings of other politicians on the way up who have experienced the affects of these 'Compliance' producing Intelligence agents.
One on the way up Illinois politician was recorded in an Indiana motel in 2000 as saying after a compliance session ended; "300 years of hell on earth, and it was all worth it."
Could we be witnessing once again a demonstration of the near absolute force of 'Pee-Pee Power?'
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Patrick (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 417 comments)
on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 at 11:46:07 PM
Why the devil are you absorbed with political niceties and proper protocol when we have a cabal running this country that are taking it down a road to hell.
I say THANK GOD we have a congress coming up that is capable of bringing the investigations, and whatever derives from them, to bear. This is the ONLY POSSIBLE DIRECTION the country can go, if its present disastrous course is to be stopped. Bush has given every indication that he means to pursue his destructive and illegal course, regardless of the recent election, AS LONG AS THE CONGRESS WILL LET HIM DO SO. Only the congress, now, has the means to put a roadblock in his way.
It remains to be seen, of course, whether they will have the courage and the honor to set the wheels turning, instead of remaining the weak fish that they have shown themselves, in the past, to be.
You may very well be echoing Pelosi's line of reasoning, or something close to it, but she is playing softball when the times call for hardball.
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Irvthom (7 articles, 2 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 88 comments)
on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 at 2:39:15 AM
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