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March 9, 2008 at 12:19:45

A CNN Poll Is Currently Running That Indictes 44 Percent Of Public Favor WaterBoarding

by William Cormier     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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On CNN’s front page, a poll is current running that indicates 44% of those who have so far voted favor “WaterBoarding” of individuals suspected of terrorism. This is an indication that the “Politics of Fear” are working, and Americans are not thinking this issue through, but are instead reacting to fear without understand the history of WaterBoarding, its history in regard the law, and the direct effect it could have on American prisoners of war.


Waterboarding Used to Be a Crime

By Evan Wallach
Sunday, November 4, 2007; Page B01

First, WaterBoarding is considered torture, it’s against international law and defies the Geneva Convention - which the United States was instrumental in forming and signed. It is bad enough that our President refuses to comply with our own rule of law, much less international law, however it’s sad to note that his decision appears to enjoy support from those that may now understand the implications and danger of WaterBoarding.

The United States knows quite a bit about waterboarding. The U.S. government — whether acting alone before domestic courts, commissions and courts-martial or as part of the world community — has not only condemned the use of water torture but has severely punished those who applied it.

After World War II, we convicted several Japanese soldiers for waterboarding American and Allied prisoners of war. At the trial of his captors, then-Lt. Chase J. Nielsen, one of the 1942 Army Air Forces officers who flew in the Doolittle Raid and was captured by the Japanese, testified: “I was given several types of torture. . . . I was given what they call the water cure.” He was asked what he felt when the Japanese soldiers poured the water. “Well, I felt more or less like I was drowning,” he replied, “just gasping between life and death.”

Nielsen’s experience was not unique. Nor was the prosecution of his captors. After Japan surrendered, the United States organized and participated in the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, generally called the Tokyo War Crimes Trials. Leading members of Japan’s military and government elite were charged, among their many other crimes, with torturing Allied military personnel and civilians. The principal proof upon which their torture convictions were based was conduct that we would now call waterboarding. MUCH MORE

If more people knew these facts and the resulting international outrage, the danger it presents to our own troops when captured, but most of all, allowing us to apply a double-standard to ourselves when we have actually convicted others who have been guilty of this exact crime in wars that most of us no longer remember; we’re better than that, and I would urge everyone to vote in that poll and express the outrage of a country that has for far too long ignored the rule of law and international treaties of which we were instrumental in creating and urging others to sign. The hypocrisy is staggering, and it does nothing to repair our image that many nations now label as “dangerous” and “imperialistic.”

I would urge anyone who is awake, now and tomorrow if the poll is still running to express our general outrage that our own country has violated our own, plus several international laws in the pursuit of Bush polices that continue to tarnish the image of the United States. Vote at CNN .

William Cormier

 

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I am nothing more than a patriotic American that is doing whatever I can to further the cause of democracy, the rule of law, and am absolutely outraged on how the Bush administration is defying our Congress, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights! Footnote: I write in a style that I believe is appropriate in today’s world where we can’t trust the Mainstream News Media, and rather than concentrating on one article alone, which may or may not receive the exposure and emphasis it should, I prefer...

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William CormierI am nothing more than a patriotic American that is doing whatever I can to further the cause of democracy, the rule of law, and am absolutely outraged on how the Bush administration is defying our Congress, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights! Footnote: I write in a style that I believe is appropriate in today’s world where we can’t trust the Mainstream News Media, and rather than concentrating on one article alone, which may or may not receive the exposure and emphasis it should, I prefer...

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Ah - The Poll Is Over

I attempted to sibmit this in time time to we could make a major contribution to that poll, but it ended before I thought it would and now covers a different topic.

I didn't catch the last numbers, but as per a BuzzFlash reader report, it actually went up to 45% in favor of using torture to interrogate terroist suspects. I hope many of those same people don't one day find out under what circumstances someone can be labeled as a "terrorist suspect." The definition is too vague for my taste...

William Cormier

 

 

 

by William Cormier (111 articles, 5 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 278 comments) on Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 1:02:31 PM
 


Student of history, religion, exoteric and esoteric, the Humanities in general and advocate for peace, justice and the unity of humankind, not through force, but through self-realization and mutual respect.
Mac McKinneyStudent of history, religion, exoteric and esoteric, the Humanities in general and advocate for peace, justice and the unity of humankind, not through force, but through self-realization and mutual respect.

America becoming Atlantis?

This poll indicates that a large portion of the American people are simply fu*ked up in the head. This new pseudo-religion of sadism has taken root in the masses. It will only take one contrived event and some clever demagoguery for Americans to start torturing each other now. How deep will paranoia strike in the American psyche?

Tell us how America is somehow a beacon of light to the world these days. We are, institutionally, a nakedly vicious and destructive force, lost in the dark wilderness of evil ethically. The ancient myths of Atlantis might now be worth reading.

by Mac McKinney (41 articles, 56 quicklinks, 127 diaries, 902 comments) on Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 1:39:58 PM
 


Former criminal defense lawyer, lifelong leftist.

Quote: No matter how paranoid you are, the government is doing something worse than you think it is.

LarryOFormer criminal defense lawyer, lifelong leftist.

Quote: No matter how paranoid you are, the government is doing something worse than you think it is.

What goes around . . .

  .  .  .  up to 45% in favor of using torture to interrogate terroist suspects. I hope many of those same people don't one day find out under what circumstances someone can be labeled as a "terrorist suspect."

 

I hope each and every one of them does find out.  Personally! 

by LarryO (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 8 comments) on Sunday, March 9, 2008 at 8:23:55 PM
 


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IrvthomIrv Thomas, ratrace escapee and cultural outsider for 35 years, editor of Black Bart Brigade during counter-culture days, hides out in Seattle. Presently putting out a sporadic pre-formatted email newsletter called Irv's Scrapbook, which can be had at no cost if you send me an email address for it.

Regardless of how letter-perfect the poll was...

It helps to account for why Congress will accept this presidency without impeachment proceedings. The fact is, the country is still sufficiently split in spirit and moral sense, that the Bush administration 'represents us' far better than we'd like to suppose. And it helps me to see the depth of the illusion I've been living with, for so long, about 'who we really are' at this stage in our history. I think a sizable portion of America is now morally corrupt, and perhaps has been so for a very long time.

by Irvthom (6 articles, 2 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 75 comments) on Monday, March 10, 2008 at 12:19:15 AM
 


Stanimal is a concerned citizen of planet Earth, wanting to promote fairness and harmony with fellow inhabitants.
StanimalStanimal is a concerned citizen of planet Earth, wanting to promote fairness and harmony with fellow inhabitants.

With violence the way it is

in the U.S.A., I wouldn't doubt this #. Many American's also call themselves "Christian" too.

Goes to show how deranged minds work.

The U.S. truely deserves the government it has! 

by Stanimal (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 334 comments) on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 at 2:53:41 AM
 

 

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