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March 22, 2008 at 05:26:42

Headlined on 3/22/08:
Winter Soldier Never Happened

by Sharon Frigiola (Posted by Sharon Frigiola) Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Maddening and SHAMEFUL! I can’t believe that I have lived to see this day in the USA. Perhaps in some other imperialist dictator-led country, but NOT HERE in the good ole’ US of A!

Our VOLUNTEER service men and women have served with honor and valor along with shame and regret during our six years of bungled war planning. Most courageously, however, those same forces once again VOLUNTARILY gave their testimony as to their experiences while serving in Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) held a gathering of Americans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan in Silver Spring, Maryland from March 13 through March 15. They spent the entire weekend testifying before an audience about the experiences that turned them against the war. Patriots all, these brave men and women of principle were following the precedent of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War who met in Detroit in 1971 to testify about the atrocities and wrongs they witnessed, or committed, in their American war, (Baltimore Chronicle & Sentinel, March 16, 2008)

Many of the Senators’ operators that I phoned today at their DC offices in order to protest, had no knowledge of Winter Soldier as it came and went over those days of March. For the first time in the history of “main stream media” (could this be the final step in Naomi Wolf’s staircase of descent into FACISM), coverage of our brave fighting forces words and testimony was a total BLACKOUT! Hard as I looked over various times on those three days of March, I could not find coverage or even video segments being shown on the 800 channels of television my cable package offers. All of the local and national media were informed of the event by the IVAW, yet it received so little television coverage, which is how most Americans get their news, as to have not happened at all.

President Bush had the audacity to say, “If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed.” Followed by, “It must be exciting for you…in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You’re really making history, and thanks”. Oh My God! He said this during a March 14 video conference with US military and civilian personnel in Afghanistan.

All that came out of his mouth smack in the middle of Winter Soldier. For the parts of Winter Soldier I have seen, nowhere did anyone mention anything remotely romantic or mysterious. Apparently the wars in both regions remain a romantic mystery to our Governor of Texas, George Bush, Commander in Chief of the Military of the United States of America.

Maddening, shameful, ironic, and frightening to any thinking, liberty minded individual, of which I am sorry to say there seems to be too little of late. If Winter Soldier were given the of coverage that was equal to the amount of money the American taxpayers are forced to fork over for these fiascos, many more Americans would reconsider these criminally insane endeavors. These wars are helping no one, not Americans, Iraqis, Afghanis, NO ONE. They are only hurting EVERYONE involved (with the exception of the war profiteers and criminals), which is more than evident in the testimony that I had to labor to find.

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randall is a married carpenter in wisconsin very very much an outdoorsman, who's family goes back, over 120 years in the same town in n. wisconsin. who is concerned about global warming after the realization of the major changes in his own town's weather,and knowing nobody can stop it now. whether you believe in GOD or we are just animals something is happening? JUSTIFICATION IS COMMING!!!!!
skiidogsrandall is a married carpenter in wisconsin very very much an outdoorsman, who's family goes back, over 120 years in the same town in n. wisconsin. who is concerned about global warming after the realization of the major changes in his own town's weather,and knowing nobody can stop it now. whether you believe in GOD or we are just animals something is happening? JUSTIFICATION IS COMMING!!!!!

humans for humans

jesus said to pick up the cross----when we kill human beings we kill our selves a little bit more-we need a national strike more than ever to end the lies---- july 4th ------lets strike for 2 weeks nation wide for an end to the lies and take back our existance --humans for humans-july 4th -- skiidogs@gmail.com and we will see how the corperate world loves that-so join me everwhere for 2 weeks of peacefull protest------love

by skiidogs (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 115 comments) on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 8:39:38 AM

Born in 1929 in Sheffield Yorkshire England. Left school at age 14 and worked as a painter & decorator until I was called up for National service in the British Army. Served in the army untill 1973, then worked as an electronics/radio engineer untill 1984 when i retired. Built a boat and sailed around the Med. for 11 years then sold it in Tunisia, returned to the U.K. then to Florida where I've lived ever since.
douglas kayBorn in 1929 in Sheffield Yorkshire England. Left school at age 14 and worked as a painter & decorator until I was called up for National service in the British Army. Served in the army untill 1973, then worked as an electronics/radio engineer untill 1984 when i retired. Built a boat and sailed around the Med. for 11 years then sold it in Tunisia, returned to the U.K. then to Florida where I've lived ever since.

Where have all the soldiers gone?

While ever their are poor there will be young people having little choice but to sign on the dotted line and risk their young lives, this happened to me in my teens, I served for 25 years in the British Army. But I was lucky, I came out with only a minor disability many were not so lucky, friends and comrades died fighting to preserve our ill gotten empire, in Cyprus, Malaya, Kenya and Northern Ireland. Why do people think having an empire is a good thing, most British people during our empire days were as poor as church mice, some living 10 to one room, some not even a room but empires are glorified by ones who gain because it bestows on them vast riches at everybody elses expense.

When will we ever learn, when will we ever learn.

Switch off your TVs, stop buying papers often laughingly called NEWSpapers and stay at home for just a week and save all that gas you use to get to work. Enjoy your days with friends and family and see how the greedy buggers sit up and take notice.

by douglas kay (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 83 comments) on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 9:43:47 AM

I have been working as an Architectural Designer for about 25 years. Because of a life tranformation and an awareness of things going on in our world, I found myself disinchanted with what most of us strives for and that is being successful (making a lot of money and having a lot of stuff).I am now focusing on starting a foundation for the preservation of tribal people and the environment. In the early 90's I developed an appreciation and respect for tribal cutlures and I hope I ca...

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Rick TheileI have been working as an Architectural Designer for about 25 years. Because of a life tranformation and an awareness of things going on in our world, I found myself disinchanted with what most of us strives for and that is being successful (making a lot of money and having a lot of stuff).I am now focusing on starting a foundation for the preservation of tribal people and the environment. In the early 90's I developed an appreciation and respect for tribal cutlures and I hope I ca...

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I'm glad it did happen

Even if only a few saw the testimonies, these soldiers did a very brave and noble thing by sharing these atrocities. It is sad that our country has hit bottom. I tried to do my part by writing a letter to the Editor of a couple of local newspapers. Whether they print it is another story.

And as far as our brave and noble leader, I say to you, you are an idiot and a lier.

by Rick Theile (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 50 comments) on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 10:37:05 AM

Lifelong reader, sometime writer with eclectic tastes and libertarian leanings. Don't hold my semi-notorious Berkeley history against me, I settled down so completely after 40 that I can barely recall my loosy-goosy self. But it sure beats going to the same party every night.
LaudymsLifelong reader, sometime writer with eclectic tastes and libertarian leanings. Don't hold my semi-notorious Berkeley history against me, I settled down so completely after 40 that I can barely recall my loosy-goosy self. But it sure beats going to the same party every night.

Only 1 %

of Americans are in the military or their families.

It has been decided that they should bear the entire burden of grief, pain and misery for the Iraq War. The $$cost is being reserved for our grandchildren so the oligarchs of today can continue to live in grand style.

Clearly the Bush Admin (and McCain) think this is the way it's supposed to be.

by Laudyms (0 articles, 801 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 398 comments) on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 2:44:58 PM

Iowa native, did two years in the Army in Vietnam, hitched all over the world, self taught archaeolgist, handy with whatever needs to be done when there is no money to accomplish the task, Master Gardner, veteran organizer, community organizer, couple of years of college, a home owner, and writer of published essays and book reviews. Life is, according to a friend, "What it is."
Steve HankenIowa native, did two years in the Army in Vietnam, hitched all over the world, self taught archaeolgist, handy with whatever needs to be done when there is no money to accomplish the task, Master Gardner, veteran organizer, community organizer, couple of years of college, a home owner, and writer of published essays and book reviews. Life is, according to a friend, "What it is."

Five years of Black out

The Winter Soldier testimony was on Pacifica radio, so tune in to the one source that is out there reporting the news and keep it afloat. As to the fascist news services be they newspaper, radio or television: what can you expect from a corporate dominated system that gains everyday from our unwillingness to organize around stopping them and the news/entertainment crapola. Turn off those who are doing this stuff and turn up Pacifica. Community based radio still reflects the people and their news without pandering to the administration of comrade Bush and the rest of his jackels.

by Steve Hanken (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 7 comments) on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 2:47:03 PM

I'm a 61year old white guy, Veteran of 66-68, operate my own business with my wife and love to travel. Built a big sailboat in the 70's and went sailing for a few years, which ruined me for real work. Now, I fly hot air balloons for a living. Have been initiated as an Andean Paq'o. Yes, I am a liberal.
RogerI'm a 61year old white guy, Veteran of 66-68, operate my own business with my wife and love to travel. Built a big sailboat in the 70's and went sailing for a few years, which ruined me for real work. Now, I fly hot air balloons for a living. Have been initiated as an Andean Paq'o. Yes, I am a liberal.

Facist nation

The same corporations that make the war hardware also own the newspapers and television 'news channels'. Google for it, start with 'who owns cbs' and work your way along from there. How in the hell are we going to get anything like a whole truth from that bunch. A national strike is a great 'idea', with about as much chance as a snowball in a furnace. If you have ever attempted to organise a bunch of Americans to do anything, from unions to just signing a petition, you know we as a people 'don't play that'. Which is why we have 'Republicans'.

by Roger (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 359 comments) on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 3:02:02 PM

Tom Storey is a father of two with 5 unproduced feature film screenplays to his credit. At age 17, he canvassed the precincts of Newport, Rhode Island on behalf of presidential candidate George McGovern. Tom Has been known to blog supportively for Ron Paul. Tom has spent a life in business.
tom storeyTom Storey is a father of two with 5 unproduced feature film screenplays to his credit. At age 17, he canvassed the precincts of Newport, Rhode Island on behalf of presidential candidate George McGovern. Tom Has been known to blog supportively for Ron Paul. Tom has spent a life in business.

I suppose on the bright side you have this

Winter soldier was close. Too close for the powers that be to allow them on the media.

Now you know that the media is fully controlled. Now you know that the media isn't a liberal conservative thing. Now you know that whomever is president is just part of the machine.

600,000 members of the Ron Paul freedom movement learned what it was like to be near the truth.

BLACK OUT.

Winter soldier did not deserve a media black out. They were just too close to the truth.

Try and learn from the other movements "...the flak gets worse the closer you get to the target..."

I'd look at it more as a success. The more people who figure out they are slaves the quicker we can end the slavery thing.

Your vote does not count.

Our sons and daughters who have fought in wars do not count.

Our media is merely a device that is designed to control your thought. You think the "alternative media" is telling the truth? About 5% of it.

The NAU is coming soon.

EU is in place.

Starting to get the picture?

Cool the outrage...this system has been in place for hundreds of years...start telling the truth to everyone you know. The MSM won't and the Alternative media won't either.

"Move along! No conspsiracy theories here! Move along..."

by tom storey (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 58 comments) on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 5:45:25 PM

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Jason PazThe articles reflect additional thoughts that expand on the author's ten volumes Genesis Begins the Millennia. The work begins in 1995 with a fictional account of ordinary Israelis absorbed with everyday events. There are extraordinary happenings the characters gradually recognize as portents of the Messianic Age. Volumes four and five show why the Messiah decided to delay His arrival.
Volumes six through ten [Tradebombers] begin six weeks before the 9/11 World Trade Center tragedy. Again,...

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We Citizens are Made Redundant

Our course Mrs Frigiola is correct in her outrage. Opednews cited a recent poll 81% of us agree with her.

Sadly, our vast majority counts as nothing. As we approach November with a similar attitude, the President can use NSPD51 to declare Martial Law and to suspend the elections.

How can we stop him?

by Jason Paz (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 72 comments) on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 7:48:45 PM

KEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades. He sees himself as a peace educator and have been a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish. I...

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ALONEKEVIN STODA has been blessed to have either traveled in or worked in nearly 100 countries on five continents over the past two and a half decades. He sees himself as a peace educator and have been a promoter of good economic and social development--making him an enemy of my homelands humongous spending and its focus on using weapons to try and solve global issues."I am from Kansas so I also use the pseudonym 'Kansas' when I write and publish. I...

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The silence is still ominous

The silence on Winter Soldier this month are still with us. Even in retrospect there have been no reports outside the web and independent media. This is social fascism at its worst.

The silence plays on our individual memories--leaving us isolated even though our voices may actually belong to the majority.

I researced the web every day and had hoped that CNN, NBC and others would report something during the Winter Soldier hearings--NOTHING.

One last try--take the testimonies to the movie theaters. I doubt it will do much but films, like Winter Soldier can come back again as a tome for the nation--that needs a memory device or mneumonic.

Similarly, I was to young for events like Woodstock, I was able to come to understand it by watching the film years later. We did the same by looking ag the origininal Winter Soldier in the 1970s. They become a primary source for resistance in the future.

In the meantime, the silence is all gloom

by ALONE (129 articles, 1 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 279 comments) on Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 11:25:08 AM

Recently retired activist with an MA in Public Policy from an Ivy League school. A born again believer who also believes in the separation of church and state and is outraged that the Word of the Lord has been highjacked to justify the actions of the current administration.
macdon1Recently retired activist with an MA in Public Policy from an Ivy League school. A born again believer who also believes in the separation of church and state and is outraged that the Word of the Lord has been highjacked to justify the actions of the current administration.

Winter Soldier Article

This is the only article I saw abourt winter soldier testimony

http://www.progressive.org/mag_jarmail0408

by macdon1 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 98 comments) on Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 7:05:30 PM

Just a woman who's been distracted all her life from a weakness for trying to understand the big picture - the really BIG picture.
lenaJust a woman who's been distracted all her life from a weakness for trying to understand the big picture - the really BIG picture.

all we can do is keep our heads up and speak in loud voices

Phone the networks, tell them. I did. The phone numbers, email addresses, and fax numbers are all available on the web, for ABC, CBS, and NBC; PBS did not cover it, NPR had a tiny mention... if nobody raises a stink, they will continue to get away with it. Maybe people who are mad about it ought to start their own hearings! We all need to avail ourselves of our own creativity and strength to speak in one voice. It's the only way, aside from committing crimes! I think the window of opportunity hasn't shut quite completely.

Pester the media, become a fly in their ear. EXPERIMENT! Pick a single station or network or newspaper or radio station, and just keep calling every day for weeks on end, then see what happens. Calls are cheap enough, and you're safe from tear gas!

by lena (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 7:42:43 PM

"Body of War" film may help

This is hitting cinemas in major cities around the country, and it has a lot of potential. It will be harder to ignore. Thanks in large part to Phil Donahue, who has not given up.

by lena (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4 comments) on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 7:45:09 PM