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September 19, 2007 at 17:25:36

Student tasered for asking Kerry embarassing '04 election questions

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Student Tasered for asking Kerry embarassing questions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag

When John Kerry spoke today (9/17/07) at the University of Florida Gainesville, student Andrew Meyer asked three questions during the Q&A:

1) Given that you won the 2004 election per Greg Palast's book, Armed Madhouse, why did you concede on the day of the election itself when there were many reports on the day of the election of disenfranchisement of black voters and corrupted vote count? Kerry, while the question was in progress, said he didn't need to read Palast's book because he already had read it.

Meyer said he had two more questions and asked them.

2) If you are really so opposed to the Invasion of Iraq(Iran?), why don't you urge impeachment of Bush now before he can invade Iran? Clinton was impeached for a blow job, invading Iraq/Iran is much for serious than that.

3) Were you a member of the secret society Skull & Bones in college?

Police approached Meyer to pull him from the microphone and remove him from the room. When Meyer tried to stand still to hear Kerry's answer, he was swarmed, thrown to the ground as he protested that he was doing nothing wrong, and tasered after pleading not to be tasered and saying that if they let him up he would leave on his own accord; Meyer is heard screaming in excruciating pain. The fact that he didn't do anything wrong did not matter. Greg Palast writes that Meyer faces five years in prison for resisting arrest. http://www.gregpalast.com/student-tasered-for-armed-madhouse-question-to-kerry/

Meyer's case is similar to Rev. Lennox Yearwood at the D.C. Capital who waited in line to hear Petraeus wearing an "I love Iraquis" button. Yearwood, a former Air Force officer had his leg broken by Capitol security police because he refused simply to move along when told he would not be admitted, and asked why he was being singled out to be denied admission to hear Petraeus testify. The "Democracy Now" interview provides the full context. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiradcejA6o & http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/13/1445202

I was curious why Kerry conceded the 2004 election so very quickly, but I won't ask him why and I am sure that he is not (really) going to tell. Watch the video. Kerry should be telling the cops in no uncertain terms to leave Meyer alone, but that limp imitation of a liberal can only bring himself to say to the police, "I'll answer his question," not "Get your hands off that man!" We, the People, have few if any friends in high places.

I remember Kerry's debates with Bush in 2004. In the first one, Kerry said that Bush was too soft on Falujah, which was nearly razed to the ground by Bush, with white phosphorous used on the civilian population. Kerry said the USA wasn't tough enough on domestic security to stop the next 911 -- docks and harbors needed extra checks and searches, and we needed an additional 100,000 police on the street to be safe from terrorists. I would not ask whether Kerry had such people as Meyer or Yearwood in mind.

Meyer had thrown a barb at Kerry in his question, asking -- here I paraphrase -- "Did you really want to win that election?" Meyer's third question about Kerry's membership in Skull and Bones -- the elite Yale secret society that is one of many covens of the ruling class -- translates into this: Are your loyalties to democracy and the American people, or are you loyalties to the ruling class, whose factions are currently at war with each other, and one of whose factions you represent at the expense of democracy and the American people? Isn't that why you went so quietly into the night instead of raging out against it?

I would not ask Kerry why he did not tell the police to stop. I already know. Kerry understood the thrust of Meyer's fuller point and showed his loyalties in his response. While Meyer was having the crap kicked out of him, Kerry signaled his allegiances with a sarcasm that Meyer was getting exactly what was to be expected, and perhaps deserved, from defying raw power. Yes, I know there will be Kerry defenders who will pipe up that Kerry was trying to make the best of a bad situation by "lightening the mood," but this is nonsense. Feel free to listen to the video again, listening is free, to hear Kerry's empathic response to Meyer's plight -- this is an exact quote: "I'll answer his question, but unfortunately he's not available to come up here and swear me in as president." That's ruling class wit.

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Michael Green

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Charlie Levenson is a writer and activist in Portland, Oregon. In addition to serving as the Manager of Electronic Communications for a social/athletic club in Portland, he instructs in Digital Media at Portland State University, consults on communications strategy, and occasionally writes/directs videos.
Charlie LCharlie Levenson is a writer and activist in Portland, Oregon. In addition to serving as the Manager of Electronic Communications for a social/athletic club in Portland, he instructs in Digital Media at Portland State University, consults on communications strategy, and occasionally writes/directs videos.

Weird stuff going down

There's been a lot of stories about how this fellow was talking for too long, but if you watch some of the videos you see that he was being prodded before he had even been speaking for 40 seconds, so they were planning on bothering him from the start.

I would still like to know who the men in the suits were who "told" the police to move in and who ordered the mikes cut and who tried to keep people with cameras "back" from the action and told one photographer to stop taking pictures. Kerry Gestapo? Campus admins? Secret Service? Somebody else?

by Charlie L (2 articles, 3 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 666 comments) on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 at 7:17:18 PM

Armed with word, song, and sequencer, Mars delivers social analysis, dreams and blueprints for change. She survived the 1999 National Poetry Slam, has performed all over Chicago, and has been a featured speaker at many political rallies. Born in New England in the radical 60's, Mars is a veteran political activist, performance artist/musician, chocoholic, early childhood educator, photographer, sky-watcher, single mom of a rebel in training, and proud African-american bowl of gumbo.
Mars CaultonArmed with word, song, and sequencer, Mars delivers social analysis, dreams and blueprints for change. She survived the 1999 National Poetry Slam, has performed all over Chicago, and has been a featured speaker at many political rallies. Born in New England in the radical 60's, Mars is a veteran political activist, performance artist/musician, chocoholic, early childhood educator, photographer, sky-watcher, single mom of a rebel in training, and proud African-american bowl of gumbo.

Good question.

Who was giving orders to those cops? That is pretty key. I also read Cynthia McKinney's blog on this attack, and like her, i am tired of hearing various arguments for "he had it coming because..." fill-in-the-blank. When I was in college, and thereafter, I did exactly the same thing as Meyer: it's called Being An Activist. I don't care whether he was a Spart, a Green, or just an unaffiliated smart cookie. I don't care what the other students may have known about him previously (I'm guessing they disliked him since some started booing as soon as he stepped up.) Who cares?

Our police forces stopped him from asking a question at a Q+A session. He was well within the time limit. He was assertive but in no way violent or threatening at all. In my experience at these events, one could expect it to be at least 10 more minutes before any security would be involved, and certainly not after the speaker says he'll respond to it. At that point, their intervention was ALREADY wrong.

On top of THAT, they had overwhelming force carrying him off, and he was only hollering to be let go and be told what he was being charged with (not threatening at all.) Disorderly Conduct, maybe, but he was not being aggressive to the arresting officers. They had him subdued. He was talking rationally. (I remember when they first introduced the Tasar, saying it would only be used on out of control, crazed individuals who can't be subdued, such as someone on crack.) He was on the ground and had stopped trying to get away. So the tasaring was clearly premeditated -- it made no sense in the moment. Who planned this???

And after seeing those students turning their heads away as a man screamed in pain, I can barely look at strangers anymore. What would they do if I was being attacked and screamed, "Somebody please! Help! Help!"? I guess this bunch would try to ignore me, and if I was too loud, they'd look for some detail that in their minds could justify the attack. Maybe they'd decide it was my wearing dreads, or being in the wrong place, or saying the wrong thing, or that I fit some racial profile. Things they'll make note to Never Ever Do, so that they can go about their day sure that it'll never happen to them, cause they follow the rules.

Until it DOES happen to them. And then, I won't come to help them either. Cause I, and many more, will already be gone.

by Mars Caulton (1 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 82 comments) on Sunday, September 23, 2007 at 11:14:37 AM

Just found this re: guys who were in charge

"ACCENT Speaker's Bureau, the largest student-run speakers bureau in the nation, has been bringing prominent speakers to the University of Florida since the 1960s. (352) 392-1665 ext. 306 Ask for Max Tryoler, he was one of the suited guys who gave the order to the ufp to go after myers." This was in a YouTube comment, so it may or may not be correct.

by Mars Caulton (1 articles, 1 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 82 comments) on Sunday, September 23, 2007 at 11:53:47 AM