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November 11, 2006 at 07:46:01

What's The Plan Man? My 2 cents!

by Dominic Jermano     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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What's the plan man? Now that the Democrats have done the impossible, what's the plan?

I think we need to get out of Iraq. How to do that? First I think we should realize some things perhaps President Bush was not so meticulous in explaining about to us.



First...tell us the truth...frankly it is about Oil in Iraq. Giving Iraq Democracy would be nice, but the fact is it is about Oil. Why do I say this.?. Because America led by GWBush did not say it is because we think the tyrants and dictators of the world shouldn't be in control of the worlds Oil resources, getting the money from the sales, and building their armies and weapons simply to attack and to expand their dictatorship.

Understood!. Don't tell us about the lies of WMD...and since that is an old lie, let's forget it. What is done is done....but I think after 911 which is still a major problem to underscore, in thinking that Bush had to do this in order to get Americans to support the military, all in the name to stop the military threat building in Iraq, is a high order of manipulation.

The thought that Americans had to kill Americans in order build up and justify American defenses because of a looming threat outside America sure puts a new meaning to defending your country; especially when America has so much to lose if it maintained its weak military readiness.

I don't know the answers or the full story to that, but I do know we are in a mess. We have Iran and N. Korea with threats of getting the Atomic Bomb, and who knows where that will lead. At any rate we are ill equipped to handle those two problems while bogged down in Iraq.

We need to make some decisions about Iraq. I think we should get out of the populated cities period. We should have troops protecting the oil wells and pipelines period. Nothing more.. Let them form their own government all we care. We should pull out all American contractors, to send the signal we do not want to be in your country.

Let the Iraqi people decide if they want us to help in reconstruction efforts. Our only obligation is to keep the Oil out of the hands of terrorists, and the revenue that would help them buy arms and sustain their ambitions toward their own dictatorships.

If too much resistance comes at attacking the oil wells, we can close the wells and bury them in a carpet of bombs, so no one ever gets the oil. Mission Accomplished...We are victorious in stopping the terrorist in getting the oil. We can pull the troops out...and let the Iraqis figure their fate from there. They would have to stop the violence, before Oil wells would be open again. We could also build underground pipelines to prevent open target strikes. I think this would work, and Bush would take it as a victory in Iraq. Let Democracy unfold when they agree to stop attacking the oil sites.

Afghanistan I think we should pull out all together. We have been duped to think Pakistan is against AlQaida. They in my opinion are one of the same. We have no business in that region. They accepted our help against the Russians, now they turn on us when we helped them win the war.

I think we have better relations with Russia. In fact we should consider rerouting the Caspian Oil pipeline. I think it could go through Russia or Bulgaria via Turkey to the Black Sea...out to the Aegean Sea; which leads right to the Mediterranean Sea. This route would keep us out of Afghanistan and would be a safer political decision, in lieu of relationships between Pakistan and India.

This would be a winner on that front too. Our Relationship with Russia would be enhanced and certainly Russia deserves the benefits from this deal than a bunch of illogical goat herdsmen in the hills of Afghanistan. I remember it said an intelligent businessman does not want to do business with an unintelligent partner, because they both have different ideas of success.

Russia and America are on more of a level business thought, and it is a stronger relationship. It is ironic that America and Russia were fighting each other over this Oil hole in the Caspian Region, and have come to realize they are their own best comrades in this turn of events.

I might remind President Bush that such a deal will cement more support from Russia in getting them to stand with us against Iran, than they have proved in the past. I think this would be a prudent observation, as our newly elected Congress and you come to the meat and potatoes in providing; us with a clean victory, supporting the troops, and preparing for the imminent future.

Cordially Yours,

Mr. Jermano

 

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Writer, historian, philosopher, muddler-through-life. Author of The Lost Adams Diggings - Myth, Mystery and Madness, and Hell Bent for Santa Fe - The Texan Santa Fe Expedition of 1841
Jack PurcellWriter, historian, philosopher, muddler-through-life. Author of The Lost Adams Diggings - Myth, Mystery and Madness, and Hell Bent for Santa Fe - The Texan Santa Fe Expedition of 1841

Oil motive

I agree with you. Unfortunately US dependence on foreign oil resources are so solidly in place, and the consequences of losing those sources so devastating it's going to take some real guts for either party to back away.

The issue isn't terrorism. It isn't do-goodism concern for human welfare. It's the fact Americans ain't going to like the measures required to lose our dependence on foreign oil.

J

by Jack Purcell (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 103 comments) on Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 9:45:15 AM
 


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Daniel GeeryGeery lived off the grid for 15 years in an earth-sheltered, solar heated home, while his kids learned in school that solar energy isn't feasible. NAPTA hosts a page on Geery's foibles in education, and explains how he got his butt fired from a tenured teaching position. Here's a short clip of his most recent solar contraption; for more on that project, and Geery's contention that the Wright Brothers took a wrong turn, please visit his airship page (hyperblimp.com). Apparently, Geery is the only...

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Bang!

You hit the nail on the head, Jack.

Even bin Laden, near as I can tell, would be content if we gave "fair prices" for oil on what is considered Arab soil.

Most Americans seem to have no clue that civilization as we know it would collapse without cheap oil.

Anyone remember, "Energy for Survival," circa late 70's, by Wilson Clark? The subtitle was "The alternative to extinction," and it was recommended for "anyone who thinks past December 31"--which, unfortunately, preempted the American public.

A quarter century later, we still don't get it.

by Daniel Geery (26 articles, 55 quicklinks, 121 diaries, 653 comments) on Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 12:37:24 PM
 


American against War and Violence. Writer, English Teacher, Inventor, Creator of the First Manmade Floating Farm On The Ocean.... My companies name is ACET: Algae Charcoal Ethanol Technicorp. We grow Algae for Oil.
Dom JermanoAmerican against War and Violence. Writer, English Teacher, Inventor, Creator of the First Manmade Floating Farm On The Ocean.... My companies name is ACET: Algae Charcoal Ethanol Technicorp. We grow Algae for Oil.

Hold On..now.

Well thanks fellas but I think you don't GOT it exactly. Because most of our oil does not come out of Iraq. It never has. Saudi Arabia has been our helping hand. In fact Iraq although has provided us with some oil, our limited sales from them is precisely because we didn't want Saddam to get the revenues to build his army.

Afghanistan and the Caspian Sea are not even on line.

So to suggest we have something to lose like cheap oil from them is far stretched to say the least.

As I said we should keep troop levels around the oil sites, and out of the cities, to make it clear our intentions in the region is keeping resources away from terrorist, and not about occupying or forcing our style of government on to their people. Later in time if they decide to have democracy...all well and good. But if they support another dictator think again about returning oil wells back to terrorists.

Making a new transition pipeline rerouted in the Caspian basin to go through Russia, or Turkey, or Bulgaria to the Aegean Sea, out to the Mediterranean Sea would be a good start in bringing online cheap oil. Russia is no longer a communist state, so why aren't we working and rewarding Russia with those efforts. Seems we should have been doing so. This move I think would also make Russia ready to give us more support in Iraq, in protecting the Oil wells there.

The idea is we new support from other stronger countries, and to show them our true fight is with terrorism, not converting governments to our ways. We didn't invade Russia to change their government. They decided the economic payoff was worth the change. So we show this with Iraq, by taking the oil wells away from them, until they get their stuff about government straight.

by Dom Jermano (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 40 diaries, 934 comments) on Saturday, November 11, 2006 at 5:46:11 PM
 

 

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