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Recount - Is Dennis Kucinich walking into a trap?

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The election integrity community is abuzz with news that candidate Dennis Kucinich will ask for a recount in New Hampshire, and Ron Paul fans have been pushing him to recount as well. Careful.

NEW HAMPSHIRE ELECTION INTEGRITY ADVOCATE NANCY TOBI IS CORRECT:

"We have no control over the ballot chain of custody and we have learned the pain from the 2004 Nader recount, in which only 11 districts were counted, chosen by a highly questionable person, and then nothing showed up. Now all we hear is how the Nader recount validated the machines."

As Tobi says, "A candidate asking for a recount may well be a tool used to 'prove' everything was okay and then that candidate will be further discredited."

I'll go further than that. The only way a recount makes any sense at all in New Hampshire is AFTER an assessment is made of the chain of custody issues. If the chain of custody isn't intact the recount won't be worth a cup of warm spit.



TOBI:

"This is high stakes.

"You do not walk into a battle ground not knowing where the snipers are, just because you were invited. Strategically, going into something like this where you have NO CONTROL is foolishness.

"And I say this as one of the strongest recount proponents of former times. Things I have come to learn and understand have changed my mind. The recount is someone else's game, not ours.

"In the recount, we have no control, and we have already lost 48 long hours of ballot chain of custody oversight.

"We need citizen control and oversight. This is not going to come from the recount. If the election was rigged...don't you think the riggers would have a backup Plan B for a rigged recount, knowing how easy it is to get a recount in NH?

No. It is time to take control. "

BLACK BOX VOTING:

The following is excerpted from our New Hampshire election protection information published in November 2007:


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Knowing that the greatest opportunities for election fraud are with insiders, this tells us something about what to examine first. If you are a person with inside access in New Hampshire, because any candidate can ask to recount any location, if you plan to manipulate the election you'll want to make sure you can achieve ballot substitution, ballot removal, or ballot stuffing. You need a strategy just in case someone asks for a hand count.

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Bev Harris is executive director of Black Box Voting, Inc. an advocacy group committed to restoring citizen oversight to elections.
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Oh, the irony by Peter Dearman on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 2:36:23 AM
Recount in NH by Hank on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 12:53:01 PM
I think this is overwrought by Dave Lindorff on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 4:41:50 PM
which ballots got sequestered, Dave? by Better World Order on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 12:00:34 AM
Without Documented Chain of Custody, Recount is Pointless. by Better World Order on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 3:06:13 AM
I just did an optimistic link... by Daniel Geery on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 5:07:19 AM
Done by Kevin Gosztola on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 7:57:58 AM
Kevin - Do You Know if DK Ever See's by Eric on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 8:42:10 AM
Try, try again by John Sanchez Jr. on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 8:52:37 AM
You are correct, I tried that route once by Eric on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 9:16:13 AM
Dennis & the Action Center by Kevin Gosztola on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 9:17:32 AM
ReCount by gerard styles on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 7:26:00 AM
Kucinich has no fear by john riggs on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:02:26 AM
PERHAPS by WML on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 12:43:22 PM
Here's a skeptical question on the alleged NH 'vote fraud' - by Richard Mynick on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:04:59 AM
Who would rig the elections? by Charlie L on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:27:37 AM
IMO, the Repubs will have an easy time with either HRC or O by Richard Mynick on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:45:32 AM
I'm just really not convinced about any of this either... by Steven Leser on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:57:50 PM
That makes sense. by Peter Dearman on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:51:15 AM
WHO WOULD RIG THE ELECTIONS by RICHARD SHADE on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 3:50:00 AM
Why GOP would rig it for Hillary by sjm30741 on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 4:10:38 PM
A more sinister possibility by Steve Moyer on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:37:15 PM
It is a pleasure by mhenriday on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:09:51 AM
Election Fraud Reality 101 by Ron Corvus on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:16:56 AM
The "elections" are for entertainment only. by waldopaper on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:56:53 AM
Who Can Do This? by Jami on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 12:01:28 PM
Cardboard boxes & duct tape by Michael Richardson on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:36:01 AM
Grannie Warriors for Ron Paul by Jeanette Doney on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:49:19 AM
Grannie Warriors..... by Jami on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 12:08:21 PM
$26,K and counting by Jeanette Doney on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 4:48:28 PM
walking into a trap?" by Michael Shaw on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 11:58:13 AM
Voting in 21st Century America by Lord Stirling on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 1:02:25 PM
VOTING IN 21ST CENTURY by RICHARD SHADE on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 6:38:18 AM
THOSE TERRIBLE FELONS by WML on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 1:03:56 PM
Hey Rich M or whoever it might concern by john riggs on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 1:05:32 PM
i talked to a guy at the Kucinich campaign by Better World Order on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 2:28:47 PM
Why do we not get it by john riggs on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 3:58:47 PM
This makes no sense at all, sorry. by Steven Leser on Saturday, Jan 12, 2008 at 3:01:16 PM
ITS THE TEAM by RICHARD SHADE on Sunday, Jan 13, 2008 at 2:50:36 AM
I love this thread by coyote on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 9:43:04 PM
Okay, so you don't vote, does that absolve you of by Brett Paatsch on Friday, Jan 11, 2008 at 10:33:09 PM
What about electronic voting? by Steve Moyer on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:46:28 PM
We NEED voter affidavits by tiffane on Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008 at 1:10:04 PM

 

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