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This election wasn't just an election. It was a SUCCESSFUL REVOLT against a totalitarian government. The jury may still out about Barack Obama, but whoever or whatever he turns out to be, he can NEVER be America's new dictator. His powers will be extensive, no doubt. His mandate was real, but the mandate was less to get "him in” (Hillary would probably have been just as good), than to get a "Dictatorship form of government out"! And by God, that's exactly what we did. During these last eight years, President Shoe (I mean President Bush) probably had more power than any President in American history. And of course, like all "temporarily" successful dictators, his power came from fascist terrorism. 
The Bush/Republican neocons almost certainly engineered 9/11 to terrorize the American public into abject submission. And once they got their hooks into our Constitutional Republic, they began to systematically obliterate our Bill of Rights, our environmental protections, our educational systems, and even our health protections, etc., etc. You already know the agonizing list.
In short, they had basically limitless power and they knew exactly what they wanted to do with it (remember, the neocon cabal was planning their coup d'etat for years before the year 2000 stolen election). Indeed, the black heart of these last eight years was a marriage in hell between the elites and the neocon traitors who NEVER answered to or represented the United States of America.
Their agenda was to totally undo the moral/rational legacy of FDR and to declare total war on the lower and middle classes. This continued; of course, uninterruptedly during the 2006 deem congress of traitors, forever proving to us that we have a ONE party system of dem/pug puppets of national/international multi millionaires and multi billionaires.
Or to say it historically, the near totality of our government were and are simply "tentacles" of the vampire rich “Haves” (we already know who the “Have Not’s” are, don’t we?)
For years it looked like our government and planet were doomed. It looked like the treacherous, unAmerican neocons were systemically taking over EVERYTHING and that you literally took your life into your hands if you stood up to be counted as a survivor, patriotic American.
Bush referred to our Constitution as "a piece of paper" and the blizzard of fascist lies were rarely challenged. The Greek God like elites started money cow oil war after oil war to feed their infinite greed.
All bets to the contrary, pinhead George was succeeding where his grandfather, Prescott Bush had failed. It's now fairly common knowledge that the Bush Family was fairly tight with Hitler, and that Prescott Bush actively tried to engineer "his" coup d'etat for the Nazis in America during the 30's. This is all ho hum historical fact, so debate here is a waste of time.
FDR squelched it, however, and the US had to await Georgie Porgie for a second shot at handing America over to the fascists (and yes, many of them STILL are literal Nazis).
So during these last eight years America has been teetering in the balance. Would the neocon slime manage to trash American into corporate fascism, or did there still exist a "water table" of passionate Americans who would somehow undo an elite-dictated totalitarian country?
Also, not to forget, the mounting and gruesome evidence that the fascist elites are putting into place a literal genocidal attempt to "cull" the working classes. Examples? Well, there's many, but a brief sample would be that poisonous foods are now everywhere (no governmental controls anymore), nearly totally dismantled environmental protections, no significant monitoring of the pharmaceutical giants, Bush's cold blooded murder of New Orleans by systematically allowing the levees to fail -- the list goes on and on.
Add to this the elite agenda that the lower and middle classes are better cattle or dead, hence they have under funded out of existence America's former cutting edge in science and the dumbing down of American education (many the best students used to want to "come" here -- now many of them want to "leave" here).
The point is simple. The point is that the elite spider web is now EVERYWHERE in America and it's a spider web in which working class Americans are the struggling flies.
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Needs a little more time..
Yes, it does seem like a bit of a miracle. However, it needs another month or so to become real, I think? And then some. There are changes to be made. At this moment, if there was a world crisis of some sort, exactly who is the leader of the US? If some weighty decision had to be made .. ? by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:29:38 PM  (0+)
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Reply: we didn't go over the brink
Aurora, I know I'm wanting to be hopeful, but it does seem that this election was less about individuals (Obama, Clinton, etc.) than about rejecting a form of government, i.e., a fundamentally totalitarian government. This government came into existence as the result of years of scheming and infamous events like 9/11, etc. In short, a concantation of circumstances that caused a quantum jump change in American society. However, lightning rarely strikes twice in the same place, so I think those conditions are simply not repeatable. They "almost" pushed us over the brink into a full blown dictatorship (indeed, for nearly 8 years that's what we had, to the the horror of most other countries), but we stopped at the brink and now Bush is sinking into lush land and the the "dictatorship" has turned out to be a house of cards. Lots of things still on our plate, but at least the dictatorship thing is dead and buried. Bill by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:27:59 PM (0+)
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Reply: But the laws remain in place
Lots of things still on our plate, but at least the dictatorship thing is dead and buried. I wish very much that I agreed with you. Life would be so much easier.. But until some of those laws are repealed, many snuck through with midnight signing statements, -- until then, everything is ready and waiting for the next group of sadistic megalomaniacs to reinstall. by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:47:21 PM (0+)
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Reply: We did go over the brink!
Don't count your chickens before the eggs are hatched. Obama will sit in that dictatorial seat himself. It will be up to him and Congress to rescend the Executive Orders, and unconstitutional laws that have been inacted for the last 8 years. When in history has an executive disavowed powers once granted to that executive? From what I have seen since the election are all the hallmarks of business as usual Celebrate while you can...it is most likely to be short lived. The US still has the legal apperatus in place of dictatorship--until this is dismantled we remain under dictatorship. Dream on......... by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:09:16 PM (0+)
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Reply: political chess?
William, What you so correctly remind us is that the ultimate wild card in our national future is Obama the man. And, God knows, I'm worried about his appointments (starting with the first one), but what if, what if . . . What if most of what he said during the campaign are values and policies he WILL honor with "political chess"? I think the jury is still out on this and my wishful thinking (I admit it!) is to give him his hundred days and then see what we see. Perhaps never has a man been so tempted in American history to sell his soul. Solidarity, Bill by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:22:43 PM (0+)
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Reply: stud poker
I appreciate your desires and hopes, it would be most pleasant to share in them. However, my analysis runs deeper than personalities and the words of rhetoeric offered up in expert neurolinguistic style. Mine is a systemic study going back to the Wilson Administration and the coup 'd grace of the Money Changers; The Federal Reserve, the propaganda campaign to replace the republic with "democracy", the "scientific" social engineering of Bernays and Lippman. My analysis is that a $700 Million dollar price tag (Obama's campaign chest) is the price we can put on his soul, and that he was pre-selected by the power elite, groomed and conditioned, long before he came to national attention. Beware of sitting at the wrong table and playing the wrong game. This is the hard core smoky back room game of Stud Poker, Joker Wild. by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:14:21 PM (0+)
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Reply: NOT "personalities", but rejecting a form of government
My whole point, repeatedly stated, is that what happened in 2008 transcended personalities. I don't know how I could have said it plainer. It was about rejecting a "form of government", not a personality contest. And I stiill totally believe that's what we did. What comes later is what comes later. by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:39:30 PM (0+)
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Reply: Maybe a bit too optimistic?
We have a new president, (in a month) but we still have the same "Board of Directors". What they say, goes. That's been the problem from the start. Until we "take out" the Board we havn't accomplished anything. by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:21:04 PM (0+)
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Rejection
I reject the hate, I reject the filth, I reject the lies piled on one after another that has been spewed onto this thread. Tonight, it's time for me to take out the trash. So that is where this article is going. by Scott (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 744 comments [30 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:37:09 PM (0+)
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Reply: oh well
To such venom there can be no response. by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:31:32 PM (0+)
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Reply: ?
What's your point, Scott? by PeterJ (16 articles, 3 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 236 comments [53 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:17:13 PM (0+)
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It's too easy...
to say "yeah, it's over..." but I believe the genie has been let out the bottle, and he/she does not want to go back in...only with force (Congress becoming a co-equal branch power again) will that facist genie understand that the people prosecute and/or impeach. by Disgusted Citizen (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 2 comments) on Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:34:32 PM (0+)
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Reply: There's much to be thankful and hopeful about.
Again I know I may have been reaching possibly prematurely for some positive energy, but I think we should acknowledge that even though a virtual book of laws have to be undone, etc., we did stand our ground and we're definitely on the right track for the first time in eight years. However Obama turns out (and my act of faith is that he will be true to many of his promises), we are LIGHT YEARS away from the pit of utter despair we endured for eight straight years. So I'm wanting to "think positive" to counter a kind of knee jerk despair which however understandable considering our past, is simply no longer justified. Things are not all black and there's much to be thankful and hopeful about. by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:29:29 PM (0+)
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Venom?
That's what I find on this thread. And that's what I am rejecting. by Scott (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 744 comments [30 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Tuesday, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:14:06 PM (0+)
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Reply: Lol
Perhaps you would be kind enough to leave yourself out with the trash tonight?? by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:13:20 PM (0+)
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Technically
The Presidency is now a Deified Dictatorship. It took a 100 years of abuse of power and Executive Orders from Wilson, FDR, Truman, LBJ, Carter, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II and Clinton, justified by a virtual perpetual state of emergency of one sort or another, but it is now complete. Bush was the religous rights religous leader and Obama is a global messiah. Looking at Obamas cabinet appointments, nothing much is going to change except this: Gideon Rachman in “And Now For A World Government” (FINANCIAL TIMES, December 8, 2008) writes: “For the first time in my life, I think the formation of some sort of world government is plausible, (and) would involve much more than cooperation between nations. It would be an entity with state-like characteristics, backed by a body of laws.” He then quotes Australian historian Geoffrey Blainey as writing that “for the first time in human history, world government of some sort is now possible,” and Rachman assesses that “the financial crisis and climate change are pushing national governments toward global solutions, even in countries such as China and the U.S. that are traditionally fierce guardians of national sovereignty.” by pft (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 601 comments [7 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:28:44 AM (0+)
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Good mental health
Bill, I am happy you have returned from despair. I too have found myself in the midst of mood swings. Whats up with that? One day, I wish it was all over, the next day I am ready to lead the charge. A vacation from "Breaking News" is what we all need for sure. Go some place warm Bill, wriggle your toes in some hot sand. Drink a Tropical Cooler. Dance with some girls. by kato krause (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 216 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:36:06 AM (0+)
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Reply: the danceing part
kato, Ah man, that sounds good -- especially the dancing part (: I really want to wind down from permanent attack mode and celebrate the postive (even though we're still munching bread sticks and the real meal is still a dreamt for possibility). But everything begins with dreams . . . Thanks, as always, my friend for your kind support, Bill ps And yeah, I sure like the dancing part. by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:28:38 PM (0+)
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the power of creation of the story and its underlying belief
Thank you for writing the story of what we want to create. This has Power. The "the world is a dangerous place, Us versus them" story has been blasting 24/7 for 8 years and the only way to turn this around is to return to the story of the unalienable rights of all, the God Bless Everyone, no exceptions, story. The sociopaths have hooked our fear and played us as fools, and the way out is reclaim our story and write one we would want to live in. The power of our focused attention moves the law of attraction and creates. We have to take our power back. Thank you for voicing this. This is not the pollyanna script, we see the reality of the other stories creation and the need to flip the laws back AND the need to reclaim our focus. Shock has stolen our power, we are coming out of the post traumatic stress syndrome and the first step is to reclaim our inherrant goodness and the power of our focused intent. by Susan Lee (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:45:42 AM (0+)
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Celebration is, indeed, in order...
but we only won a battle, not the war. A survey of the history of the past century demonstrates that our adversary in this fight is supremely patient and persistent. So, enjoy the celebration of victory, but do so while we maintain a watch at the gate. by John Sanchez Jr. (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 25 diaries, 1791 comments [148 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:21:56 AM (0+)
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Reply: wars are ususally won one battle at a time
John, Why do some responses say in a paragraph what I was trying to say in a submission? Yes, exactly! We won a battle, but we didn't win the war (alas). Much, much awaits us (especially in the light of most of Obaman's appointments), but I do think we deserve to celebrate at least the "battle". God knows, we worked hard enough to win it. And wars are usually won one battle at a time. Dancing in the streets may be premature -- but at least we've earned a little shuffle in the bathroom. solidarity, Bill by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:12:03 PM (0+)
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Soft Revolution
Exactly the way I feel, Bill. I wasn't dancing in the streets, but I was dancing on clouds on November 5th. Down to earth: who is going to tell the neocons it's over? Cheney, with unmitigated arrogance, yesterday practically dared the new Prez to indict him. Does he know something we don't? If only we can keep up our outrage alive... by Stickshift (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 20 comments) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:35:07 AM (0+)
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Reply: Old saying;
"The king is dead, long live the king." by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:17:16 PM (0+)
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Reply: time will tell
Oh God I hope not, William, but could be. Time will tell. My benchmark is the so called "hundred days". By then we'll know everything. Bill by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:03:39 PM (0+)
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These 4 Years
The next 4 year are critical. Either we are able to regain our Democracy or it will be lost forever. Obama ran on "change" and all of the people (or most) interpreted that to mean putting the Constitution back in place, restoring civil rights, restoring our foreign relations, re-establishing a strong middle class, and on. The "change" he may have been referring to could well be a change away from Democracy. To not undo what Bush/Cheney have done will be the devastation of our Democracy. by Dennis Kaiser (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 35 diaries, 730 comments [137 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:06:28 PM (0+)
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lost democracy.
The hound dogs bay at the moon. If we do not stop baying our owners will kill us, let us all bay louder. You neo-fascist that are calling Bush a fascist and a dictator are lying to yourselves. If this were anything close to what you are posting on this web site, you would all now be sitting in a prison. Or is it only liberal dictators that imprison their opposition? by Chester Marzolf (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:26:19 PM (0+)
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Reply: neo fascism
you doth "project"--it is you and yours who are the fascists and who fail to see your own projection. ah, amurca. by Michael Arvey (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:50:06 PM (0+)
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Reply: Chester
I can see the public library in your future. Go read. A lot. And get your ideas and concepts straight. You are in need of a clear definition of liberal based in reality, not in some dittohead radio cliches you got from someone like Mr Limp-paw. by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 675 comments [70 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:00:48 PM (0+)
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Reply: :)
"There is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes. The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account" –Former US General Taguba by William Whitten (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 4880 comments [1686 recommended, 28 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:18:52 PM (0+)
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It's not yet time for dancing.
We don't yet know what the Obama Administration will do. Will he keep the stolen Congressonal powers that the our whip democratic representatives allowed him to continue to steal? Will the Patriot Act be rescinded? Will the Bush regime be charged for their crimes against our Constution, treason, Murder, and crimes againt humanity. Will Obama bow to the Corporate powers that has taken the people back to subsurbiance and slave wage, where they keep the profits of the common peoples sweat and blood. Most of all, will he end the hoax War on Terror, and assist in exploiting official hoax story of what happened on September 11, 2001. It has been proven that none of the destruction done on 9-11 happened as officially published, and there is very much evidence that the truth was intentionally avoidedby the 9-11 Commission. Will he continue where Bush left off, in hiding what really happened on 9-11? Which side will Obama stand? Truth and Justice or more of the deviet same? Should anyone be above the law or must they protect our Constitution against all enemies even if the primary enemy was in our Whitehouse? by Philip Dennany (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 150 comments [68 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:54:40 PM (0+)
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Reply: Progressive haven't gone anywhere!
PHillip, All this dialogue and ideas flying everywhere. Man, WE'RE STILL HERE, we're the true "water table" of America, and if Obama betrays us, he has no idea the tsunami of political rage that awaits him. We aren't defenseless! We just proved it in the last election, and even if "progressives" are still a dirty word ("sigh"), "sticks and stones will break our bones, but names will never hurt us" (a little wisdom from grade school). I think a little bit we're being brainwashed (very consciously by the elites!) to significantly underestimate our true power. If push comes to shove, to hell with Obama. We now have the political muscle to represent ourselves. Indeed, that was the essence of what I was groping for in my piece. This election really was a kind of "soft" revolution (as someone insightfully put it). We GAINIED GROUND DRAMATICALLY, and, let's face it, the country will go ballistic if Obama DARES to try to be Bush # 2 (although, I'm not really worried about that -- but we shall see). The main thing is not to "tokenize" the election and act as if everything is business as usual. Belive me, I understand that point of view and wrote 2 or 3 pieces saying basically exactly that, but much of the feedback said we should wait and see what he does when he's in office, not just what he does before he takes office, and I think that was good advice. Another way to say this is I want us to keep our "momentum", and not despair or predict it away. I couldn't agree more that Bush/Cheney legacy infrastructure now in place in our government (or the lack thereof) is another potential dictatorship, but I don't think Obama will "go there" for two reasons: (1.) I still think the guy is basically honest. (2.) IF he does "try" to go there (there's no way he actually can considering the mood of most of the country), the sky will fall on him. That, once last time, is the point I was arguing, i.e., the dictatorship option is DEAD. He CAN'T go there, even if it seems like he has the paper permission. If he tried, America would have another Civil War. by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:22:08 PM (0+)
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Obama is clearly a corporatist
as per his appointments. It remains to be seen what he will do with the powers stolen by Bush/Cheney under the Theory of the Unitary Executive. I see that his two latest appointments, of his B-ball bud in Education, and Tom Vilsack, who must own a lot of stock in Monsanto at Agriculture, are right in keeping. Duncan, a lawyer and strong supporter of testing and NCLB, is not going to work out in Education. He will be as big a disaster as the guy from Houston who gave us NCLB under Bushwa. And Vilsack? If you think the FDA and Ag regs are soft on the corporations under Bush, keep your eyes open. It is going to get bad. Very bad. by Jack Harrington (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 675 comments [70 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:06:15 PM (0+)
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My glass is half empty
Have you ever seen where they interview survivors of a disaster? You rarely see them dancing in the streets. Expressing relief and thanking God, but not dancing. If we had some hope for perpetrators of this standing trial for their crimes, you might then have your dancing. We have over 4,000 of our armed forces dead, the strongest economy in the world in shambles, our nation is condemned and distrusted throughout the world, and our constitution and justice system trampled over. Hate to be a party pooper, but I don't feel like dancing. I feel more like listening to some country western and crying in my beer. Wait a minute, let's hold the country western. by vidiot (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 300 comments [10 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:24:27 PM (0+)
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A bunch of war loving crooks.
I'll start celebrating when the Democrats start prosecuting Republicans and they get us out of the stinking war. Historically Democrats have been the enablers while the Republicans have been the abusers. I backed the Democrats with the usual black hatred this time. by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1760 comments [39 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:01:06 PM (0+)
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Reply: half full or half empty
John, amen, amen. Is the glass half empty or half full? Only time will tell, but my "emotional" response it to go for the half full since I think it will help to energize us. Too much despair, even though it seems plausible, is defeatist and immobilizing. But having said that, if I'm going to be more rational/factual than positive thinking emotional, I honestly don't have a clue. Obama could still at least in some minimal sense "come thorugh", but most of what he has done to date (which is a lot!), I've gotta admit doesn't look good -- and it tends to get worse every day. I was determined to give him his "hundred days", but . . . solidarity, Bill by W. Christopher Epler (Bill) (291 articles, 59 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 763 comments [44 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:09:28 AM (0+)
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heh heh heh...
this is a humor piece, right? Loaded with sarcasm... by waldopaper (15 articles, 3 quicklinks, 34 diaries, 609 comments [84 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:41:19 PM (0+)
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The dance is over
Now you have to go wait in line for food stamps. by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:34:55 PM (0+)
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HERE'S OBAMA'S REAL BASE
Its sill the same people thats been pulling the string for last 50+ years. no dancing , maybe more shoe throwing. http://www.illuminati-news.com/Articles/100.html by MARGARET BASET (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 345 comments [45 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:31:35 AM (0+)
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Lost Just Lost
Many of these comments seem to be coming from the same crowd that was saying that bush would suspend the election. I don't get it. Why can't they see that we still have and will continue to have a dictatorship. The only thing that will change is the PR man. And from the world perspective Obama is the best PR man they could have chosen. OO ya we stopped a dictatorship DAAAA.... by arlen custer (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 7 diaries, 466 comments [69 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:29:29 AM (0+)
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How about coming back in 4 years with this article?
Counting your chickens before they are hatched is an error. I would be more inclined to agree with your assessment if it had been Kucinich and not a right winger like Obama. Even then the President can't do everything but can veto bad laws. The fascists otherwise known and Dominionists aren't finished yet. Their infrastructure is still in place and I have yet to see anything to tell me that Obama won't pull a Clinton who facilitated the reich wing while he was in office. While they still attacked him at every turn. The way Cheney/Bush Axis of Evil are treated should tell you what to expect. That is the key and Obama has made no sound as to prosecuting them for high crimes and felonies. Cinton let the Bush administration before him go even though GHWBush committed war crimes to attack Iraq the first time around. Oh and don't forget the USA since 2003 have killed around 1.25+ million Iraqis alone. 1.5 million from 1990-2003 with many more times that wounded, displaced and living in horrible poverty. Things that did not happen under Saddam Hussein. So the USA actually made a psychopathic dictator look good, what does that tell you about the Bush legacy? Our only chance is to do what was done to FDR, who was no liberal either, let him know that for the good of the country and him he needs less war and more support for Americans at home! [It is my hypothesis that the Dominionists liked the situations of 1933-1934 when they last tried to take over. The conditions are ripe for their Capitalist speculators to benefit from our misery and gain more power.] "Disaster Capitalism" To quote princess Leia from Star Wars IV, "it's not over yet." by nightgaunt (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 448 comments [27 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:04:15 PM (0+)
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