Share on Google Plus Share on Twitter Share on Facebook 11 Share on LinkedIn Share on PInterest Share on Fark! Share on Reddit Share on StumbleUpon Tell A Friend 11 (22 Shares)  
Printer Friendly Page Save As Favorite View Favorites View Article Stats   226 comments

General News

Who Is Financing the Smears Against Elizabeth Warren?

By (about the author)     Permalink       (Page 1 of 2 pages)
Related Topic(s): ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; , Add Tags Add to My Group(s)

Must Read 8   Valuable 8   News 5  
View Ratings | Rate It

opednews.com Headlined to H3 12/16/13

Become a Fan
  (64 fans)

From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxFvSZ5Glc: .
Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton
(image by YouTube Fox News)


Everything is behind-the-scenes now, as the Hillary-Clinton-for-President campaign gets itself organized, and rounds up the big-money donors for the expected campaign battles that lie ahead -- battles first in the Democratic primaries, and then against whomever the Republican nominee will be.

Clinton's momentum in the 2016 Presidential contest started to seem unstoppable even as early as the summer of 2013. During July and August, she brought together much of the campaign team that had carried Obama to victory, and she began the long trek through moneyland, to amass the financial means ultimately to reimburse the organizations that are investing so early in her expected 2016 campaign.

Britain's   Daily Mail   headlined on 29 July 2013,   "Obama Hosts Hillary Clinton at Private White House Lunch,"   and reported that, "The White House did not respond to a request for comment about what the president and Mrs. Clinton will discuss." However, a press secretary said "It's largely friendship that's on the agenda today." The U.S. "news" media didn't report on the meeting, except that Yahoo News headlined that day, "Obama Hosts Hillary Clinton for Lunch," and reported more briefly that the meeting had occurred, and David Martosko in the   Washington Post   headlined also on July 29th "Getting Tips for Her 2016 Run? Obama Hosts Hillary Clinton at Private White House Lunch," and he added the important news that, "Jeremy Bird, Obama's re-election field director, and Mitch Stewart, an insider who managed his campaign in critical swing states, joined a 'Ready for Hillary' super PAC that serves as a placeholder that she could leverage on day one." The day before, on July 28th, Peter Finocchario at huffingtonpost had headlined "Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton To Meet For Private Lunch On Monday, White House Announces."

Other than those few reports, virtually no one even knew that the Oval Office meeting had occurred. On 29 August 2013, Philip Rucker of the   Washington Post   headlined   "Pro-Obama Super PAC Priorities USA Positions Itself to Support Hillary Clinton,"   and he reported that, "Priorities USA Action, the pro-Obama super PAC that led attacks against Mitt Romney, is quietly positioning itself to become the main independent group funding a media campaign for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2016 presidential race." The fix was in: the mega-corporate funding for Hillary's 2016 campaign would be enormous, and Hillary wouldn't need to rely this time on her own (which in 2008 turned out to be notably incompetent) picks of the people who would run her next Presidential campaign.

The AP headlined on July 30th,   "Hillary Clinton Group Raises $1 Million,"   and reported big support for the "Ready for Hillary super PAC."   Time   magazine's Zeke Miller headlined on August 9th,   "Iowa Democrats Ready For Hillary,"   and he reported from Des Moines, "'There's nobody in today's Democratic Party who could take her on and win,' said one Iowa Democratic operative. 'There are a bunch of people who could run to boost their own profiles, but she's just too popular here this time.'"

On September 30th, Tory Newmyer at   Fortune   headlined   "The DNC Is Nearly Broke,"   and he reported that whereas the DNC owed $18.1 million, the RNC was in the black by $12.5 million. "Sources close to the DNC say officials there have quietly laid the blame in part on the White House," by its transferring political fundraising heavyweights to Obama's new Organizing For Action super PAC, which "can raise unlimited sums from deep-pocketed donors, and there is some evidence it is siphoning resources from the DNC." Virtually all of the incoming money would presumably now go to the opening phase of Hillary's campaign, even before she officially had any campaign.

Obama already was working for Hillary to succeed him; and the big money was already starting to pour into her incipient campaign, instead of into the Democratic Party. This same article also noted that Debbie Wasserman Schultz now led (and she had, in fact, been chosen and appointed by Obama in April 2011 to lead) the DNC, and that she "lacks strong relationships inside the administration." This new DNC chief wasn't, and never had been, an Obama agent. Obama picked her now because she had, in 2008, been one of the chief spokespersons for the Hillary Clinton for President campaign against him, and so her service to Hillary now would be her continued loyalty through 2016: to let Hillary's emerging operation, instead of Democratic Party nominees, win the big-bucks donations now, which will instead go to Hillary's Democratic primary campaigns against any potential Democratic opponents. Obama had chosen Wasserman Schultz in order to help Hillary beat back any possible primary challenges to her in 2016, regardless of the needs of the Democratic Party in its general-election campaigns against the Republicans two years earlier in 2014. Obama is an excellent strategist, and he was passing off the Presidency to his chosen successor. This seems to have been a stronger motivation for him than his winning Democratic congressional majorities in 2014.

Also on 30 September, Charles Ferguson, who did the documentary   Inside Job   and the book   Predator Nation , headlined at Huffington Post,   "Why I Am Cancelling My Documentary on Hillary Clinton,"   and he reported that, though the Republican Party had been widely publicized to have blocked CNN from backing that project, Hillary Clinton's people had also blocked it, by refusing to cooperate. Ferguson did however manage privately to ask Bill Clinton a question "about the financial crisis" leading up to the 2008 collapse, when attending one of the Clinton Foundation's banquets. Bill "sorrowfully lamented his inability to stop" the deregulation of financial services. Ferguson noted that "this guy is a really good actor," because the reality was that Bill had personally helped to lead   in that deregulation of Wall Street, which (importantly assisted by George W. Bush) virtually invited the 2008 crash. Ferguson went on to note that "The Clintons' personal net worth now probably exceeds $200 million," which would be pretty fine payback from his Wall Street friends, for his favors to them. Ferguson added that, "One of the largest donors to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation is the government of Saudi Arabia." Saudi aristocrats were apparently as fond of the Clintons as were America's.

The Establishment has thus been coalescing around Hillary Clinton. On October 17th, Michael Hirsh at   National Journal   -- the same person who on October 8th had argued that Obama should accept the Tea Party's demand to make the debt-limit increase conditional upon slashing Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and regulatory-agencies -- headlined now, gleefully,   "Hillary Clinton, Welcome to the White House. She Has No Democratic Challenger,   and the Republican Party Is No Longer a Credible Opposition Force." If Obama couldn't fulfill on the Republicans' austerity-demands, then maybe Hillary could do the job, after 2016.

On 30 November 2013,   National Review   bannered   "Hillary Clinton's Lucrative Goldman Sachs Speaking Gigs,"   and reported that, "Hillary Clinton spoke at two separate Goldman Sachs events on the evenings of Thursday, October 24 and Tuesday October 29. ... Clinton's fee is about $200,000 per speech. ... Clinton also made visits to private-equity firms KKR in July, and the Carlyle Group in September."

Ben White and Maggie Haberman issued a major story in   Politico Magazine   on 11 December 2013,   "Lament of the Plutocrats,"   which described the sour attitude of Wall Street's titans toward almost all of the Democratic Party, and toward the social conservatives who voted in the Republican Party's primaries. These elite men found Barack Obama to be insufficiently deferential toward them in private, and even critical of them in public. They were especially outraged at his having slammed "fat cat bankers" in a 13 December 2009 "60 Minutes" interview with CBS' Steve Kroft. This public statement turned these billionaires into his enemies: "I did not run for office to be helping out a bunch of you know, fat cat bankers on Wall Street. Nothing has been more frustrating to me this year than having to salvage a financial system at great expense to taxpayers that was precipitated, that was caused in part by completely irresponsible actions on Wall Street."

Hillary Clinton showed no signs of such populist pandering, as Wall Street saw it. Wall Street just wanted to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid in order to address the federal deficits without raising their taxes. White and Haberman opened by noting that, "On a recent afternoon, executives at Goldman Sachs invited a few hundred major investors to the Conrad Hotel in lower Manhattan. The bankers and their guests filed into a large room and turned their eyes to Hillary Clinton. ... Clinton offered a message that the collected plutocrats found reassuring, according to accounts offered by several attendees." (All of Hillary's $200,000-a-shot speeches are private, and no press are allowed; so, only such second-hand accounts are publicly available, regarding these private events sizing up a major Presidential contender.) These attendees told Politico that she was "declaring that the banker-bashing so popular within both political parties [but was it,   really   'so popular' within also the Republican   Party, or were the authors choosing 'balance,' instead of real and raw truth here? How much 'banker-bashing' had actually been spouted by Romney, or Santorum, or Gingrich, etc.? Anyway, these misrepresentational 'balanced' journalists continued their report, by noting that Hillary said that this 'banker-bashing'] was unproductive and indeed foolish. ... She told the audience, in effect: We all got into this mess together, and we're all going to have to work together to get out of it. What the bankers heard her say was just what they would hope for from a prospective presidential candidate."

White and Haberman closed by saying: "The worry on Wall Street is about how far to the left Clinton might have to drift to appease what's been proclaimed the [Elizabeth] 'Warren wing of the Democratic Party' -- the vocal populists buoyed by Elizabeth Warren's tough critiques of Wall Street greed, as well as by the recent election of liberal Mayor Bill de Blasio on their New York home turf. ... And if the banking class is delighted with Clinton lately, the feeling appears mutual. In Manhattan last week, Clinton sat down with the Carlyle Group's David Rubenstein for their second question-and-answer session in the last two months."

Wall Street's counter-attack against Senator Elizabeth Warren (here being mentioned yet again along with mayor-elect Bill de Blasio) came in Rupert Murdoch's   Wall Street Journal , on December 2nd, when two Republican-Democratic proponents of cutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, Jon Cowan and Jim Kessler, both heads of the long-time Clinton-backing Third Way organization (a think tank), headlined "Opinion: Cowan and Kessler:   Economic Populism Is a Dead End for Democrats : The de Blasio-Warren Agenda Won't Travel." These Hillary-supporters linked NYC's new anti-megabank mayor-elect with U.S. Senator Warren, and even listed his name before hers, probably so as to blur their real intention and sole actual target here, which was Elizabeth Warren, whose appeal to core Democratic voters presents the only substantial threat to Hillary Clinton's Presidential train, which is now leaving the station.

Cowan-Kessler opened: "If you talk to leading progressives these days, you'll be sure to hear this message: The Democratic Party should embrace the economic populism of New York Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio and Massachusetts [U.S.] Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Such economic populism, they argue, should be the guiding star for Democrats heading into 2016." Amazingly, these Wall Street fronts (Cowan and Kessler) let slip there that though they mentioned first the mere "Mayor-elect," their real focus was actually on the 2016 Presidential race: Hillary's expected Presidential-nomination contest against not "Massachusetts Sen.," but Massachusetts' U.S. Sen., Warren. They continued: "Nothing could be more disastrous for Democrats."

Next Page  1  |  2

 

Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of  They're Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010,  and of  CHRIST'S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that (more...)
 

Share on Google Plus Submit to Twitter Add this Page to Facebook! Share on LinkedIn Pin It! Add this Page to Fark! Submit to Reddit Submit to Stumble Upon

The views expressed in this article are the sole responsibility of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of this website or its editors.

Writers Guidelines

Contact Author Contact Editor View Authors' Articles

Most Popular Articles by this Author:     (View All Most Popular Articles by this Author)

First Examination of Malaysian MH-17 Cockpit Photo Shows Ukraine Government Shot that Plane Down

Indications that the U.S. Is Planning a Nuclear Attack Against Russia

Harry Reid Effectively Kills Obama's TPP and TTIP International Trade Deals

The Propaganda War About Ukraine: How Important It Really Is

Elizabeth Warren Comes Down Hard Against Global Warming, Separates Herself From Hillary Clinton on Climate Change

How Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Congressional Republicans, Created Child-Refugee Flood

Comments

The time limit for entering new comments on this article has expired.

This limit can be removed. Our paid membership program is designed to give you many benefits, such as removing this time limit. To learn more, please click here.

Comments: Expand   Shrink   Hide  
25 people are discussing this page, with 226 comments
To view all comments:
Expand Comments
(Or you can set your preferences to show all comments, always)
H. Clinton is a vote for Goldman Sachs running the... by Textynn N on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:26:31 PM
Good summary of the problem, yet you stopped short... by Alan 8 on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:45:12 PM
Here is why your proposal is a fool's respons... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:15:46 PM
Alan B's comment may be a fool's response to the "... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:25:42 PM
I don't think that you read the linked article I r... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:05:07 PM
"He was simply trying to defeat the Democrats and ... by Alan 8 on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:14:14 PM
You still haven't read that article. Read it, and ... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:02:02 PM
Robert Reich stated recently: " Last month Pope F... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:12:17 AM
If you read my comment, you know that I am anythin... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:08:13 PM
Reply to Charles Roll... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:32:10 AM
THAT old argument again.In Florida 2000, Gore won ... by Alan 8 on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:50:00 PM
You say "In Florida 2000, Gore won more votes than... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:29:44 PM
"You say "In Florida 2000, Gore won more votes tha... by Alan 8 on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:47:01 PM
You still haven't addressed what I said, which is ... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:11:12 PM
"...you still need to argue against the unquestion... by Alan 8 on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:55:50 AM
Why, after all this back-and-forth, has neither of... by Mort Persky on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:13:05 PM
My profound regret and apology: you are correct. T... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:55:23 PM
PS: Oh, now I remember:What I meant to say there w... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:02:21 PM
doesn't matter when we did get a dem in with a man... by Textynn N on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:21:58 PM
Don't forget small favors ... of which there were ... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:40:05 AM
Alan, people need to understand the problems and h... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:21:16 PM
If Nader helped defeat either one of the 2-headed ... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:50:16 AM
Al Gore was not a head on a monster: he was the co... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:16:04 AM
Alan B called out Al Gore just right in his note a... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:26:46 PM
Yes, I like Gore too. I even voted for him and I e... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:03:32 AM
Polls at the time showed that the American public ... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:04:30 PM
You denigrate "Naderites" who stand for issues the... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:40:01 PM
The "issues" that Nader "stood for" in his politic... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:37:22 PM
You are a great source of information and analysis... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:37:16 PM
Hindsight is 20-20, but how many senators must hav... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:39:35 PM
On the difficult issues around crucial contested H... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:50:26 PM
Re. your "where were the Dems on the egregious and... by Eric Zuesse on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:43:24 PM
I acknowledge your points made. I had forgotten, i... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:27:19 PM
I'd argue about whether the FL vote would have bee... by Jill Herendeen on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:50:09 AM
You miss the point: Without Ralph Nader's having s... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:32:29 AM
No, I'm not missing the point.  It's not at a... by Jill Herendeen on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:57:41 PM
Then you are ignoring the point. Please deal with... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:51:32 PM
Specifics... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:08:55 AM
That's the 2004 election, and I and many other Dem... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:10:56 PM
Unfortunately, asking anyone for FACTS on the subj... by Jill Herendeen on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:39:38 AM
Speaking of "sucking" you certainly do!... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:41:33 PM
Well said! Agree!... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:33:07 PM
... by Alan 8 on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:52:50 PM
Difficult to know where to start with this. First,... by Wayne Turner on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:10:49 PM
The Democratic Party is not "where progressive ide... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:23:14 AM
Just FYI, Bernie is an independent.... by Adam Smith on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:09:22 AM
How about specifics here? Like the Disclose Act!... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:14:10 AM
That doesn't support your case; it supports mine. ... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:24:16 PM
"That doesn't support your case; it supports mine.... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:37:00 PM
Once again a little reality for you. It is a "Demo... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:48:53 PM
and this article condemns Obama, right along with ... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:51:16 PM
Well put!... by Alan 8 on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:14:34 AM
I think it's harsh to call Alan B's response a ' f... by Sun King on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:16:24 PM
Your inability to see reality is stunning. Gore ra... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:19:54 PM
Greens, together with many other organizations in ... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:49:05 PM
Signed it.  But a Constitutional Convention i... by Alan 8 on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:20:07 AM
I understand the risk. But we must take it. Thanks... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:00:55 PM
Thanks for link to the Saez PDF!... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:33:12 PM
This action does not get as much publicity as it d... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:21:58 PM
Ditto - a vote for Warren, like a vote for Clinton... by Lance Ciepiela on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:08:35 PM
Hey, Lance! Your 'Source' is a poll done here at O... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:26:38 AM
But you "don't believe that is the whole truth" Ch... by Lance Ciepiela on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:10:02 AM
Charles - whoever said that someone's opinion or a... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:25:42 PM
I should have acknowledged earlier that your linke... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:34:28 PM
As I recall Warren supports return of Glas Stegal,... by Pal Palsimon on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:58:56 AM
A vote for Hillary will be nothing more than a con... by Dennis Kaiser on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:53:37 PM
One thing for sure - all the insiders, the profess... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:29:53 PM
Considering what we read in this article, what do ... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:03:19 PM
Thanks for the link to the Wolf PAC and to the pet... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:17:31 PM
It was inevitable that the 2014 election year woul... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:09:58 PM
Absolutely right. We must begin with local, state,... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:28:58 PM
Thanks for links and tips!... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:34:56 PM
Looking beneath the surface, I am afraid many peop... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:10:35 PM
We have other options.Palsimon " @palsimo... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:14:12 PM
If Elizabeth Warren doesn't run, and Sanders does ... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:23:27 PM
Your bad way of looking at this is part of our pro... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:31:38 PM
It is you who errs, because only a fool would thin... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:39:20 PM
Too bad this article turned into a Nader discussio... by Rob Kall on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:14:35 PM
There are too many falsehoods in your presentatio... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:12:47 PM
I stand by my position that Warren is an outlier.&... by Rob Kall on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:45:26 PM
Rob, you are getting to an important other issue, ... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:59:07 PM
Your history is seriously off about the establishm... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:41:37 AM
Good point about difference between presidential a... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:20:26 AM
Even though the Weimar Republic had a strong presi... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:39:26 AM
Despite inevitable disagreements about the ... by Patrick Walker on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:57:31 AM
You sound very like the Tea Party. don't let any p... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:07:16 PM
So I guess we liberals just shoot ourselves since ... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:03:10 PM
That's the opposite of the truth. The truth (as th... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:55:26 PM
Some people - maybe most - are too soon old, and t... by Pal Palsimon on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:03:06 AM
BTW Sanders is an independent who often caucuses w... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:34:58 PM
I heartily endorse Warren and never said or hinted... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:40:45 PM
She didn't vote to label GMOs when she had the cha... by Jill Herendeen on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:04:39 PM
Thanks again. I loooove information!... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:36:10 PM
Eric, deep curtsey and bravo! I don't know ... by Patrick Walker on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:26:43 PM
I see now and respect your thinking; but I still d... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:39:49 PM
Patrick, we apparently agree, on everything. I am ... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:34:44 PM
The female factor cannot be ignored. It is time fo... by Rob Kall on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:27:24 PM
Well, then, we basically agree. I agree with you t... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:02:33 PM
"I would be opposed to any third-party candidate w... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:53:04 AM
GOP. Tea Party. Now, 'Third Way'. They keep trying... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:46:35 AM
They're not trying to become a perfect party; they... by Jill Herendeen on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:13:47 AM
Hey here's an idea, maybe we could have Nader run ... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:17:24 PM
Boy, what a bright idea: have the very man who cau... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:06:21 PM
Seems to me that Ralph could have run as a Democra... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:58:33 PM
Bottom line, Ralph Nader is a lawyer ... so much s... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:03:28 PM
Re, your "Imagine, Senator Nader or Representative... by Eric Zuesse on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:29:23 PM
I have read your HuffPo article. And I am underwhe... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:48:05 PM
Oh, so that's why the things you say here about Na... by Eric Zuesse on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:37:47 PM
oh, but too late, Hillary...we're hip to your jive... by Dory in Havasu on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:29:21 PM
A P.S. : Though I've become a Green out of sheer d... by Patrick Walker on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:42:38 PM
No, I have discussed this with one of Bernie's clo... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:40:55 PM
@Pal I respect your viewpoint, too, as these strat... by Patrick Walker on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:55:47 PM
Tho we are all friends here, I don't think we are ... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:35:49 PM
I disagree. Some of us here are intelligent enough... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:46:38 PM
I bet you $5 the new president in 2016 WILL NOT BE... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:13:35 PM
Of course, but I would like to raise that bet to $... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:30:10 AM
There's the Ross Perot! Michael Bloomberg!... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:56:01 AM
No I won't bet $500 because I understand I am not ... by Pal Palsimon on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:08:22 AM
The bet's on:If the next President is either the D... by Eric Zuesse on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:42:08 AM
I wish you would stop denying the intelligence of ... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:00:14 AM
If you will simply read that article abo... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:37:23 AM
Poor terrorized, brain-washed voters! As I have re... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:22:05 AM
I've met many people who have voted green in presi... by Rob Kall on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:34:50 PM
Your touting of an article that is entirely an op-... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:08:05 AM
Charles, you are saying that Nader wasn't smart en... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:34:11 PM
This logic that I must choose which of two ideas i... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:55:56 PM
Yet another indication that Nader ... by Eric Zuesse on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:13:06 AM
Yes, I read your article already! The Schiavo thin... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:10:37 PM
Will you ever get off the Nader BS. You are comple... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:34:54 PM
"...the vile lying Marxist and phony democrat (sma... by Alan 8 on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:02:23 AM
Well, since you don't read my article concern... by Eric Zuesse on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:51:11 AM
"a Marxist favors centralization of power"- Zuesse... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:24:04 PM
Just don't get suckered by another Nader, whose re... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:52:30 PM
Say WHAAAAAAAAATT?????????????... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:08:11 PM
Actually, you don't know and I don't know what was... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:14:16 AM
As I said elsewhere...almost,Lizzy Warren had an a... by yunus Luebben on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:00:11 PM
Does anyone realize here that almost NO ONE in Ame... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:40:25 PM
If one and only one progressive person runs agains... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:48:57 PM
Ya gotta love Bernie!... by Sun King on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:01:08 PM
I'd love it if Bernie ran. Warren too. I'd even vo... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:44:20 PM
If you look beneath the surface you can plainly se... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:47:49 PM
My impression based on personal connections is tha... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:31:16 PM
The majority of t-party are either just plain angr... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:13:19 AM
Seems I know different teapartiers than you do. A ... by Charles Roll on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:48:36 PM
hmmmmm?  I think the Constitutional Conventio... by Pal Palsimon on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:19:41 AM
I know a number of bitter (and a couple non-bitter... by S. Juniper on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:22:57 PM
This is sad indeed if true.  The Clintons are... by John-Albert Eadie on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 5:50:12 PM
Personally, unless a true progressive emerges in t... by intotheabyss on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:11:55 PM
I can fully appreciate the horror folks feel at ... by Patrick Walker on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:49:03 PM
Well, then, you're not so different from Nader aft... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:18:42 PM
WHOA, Eric, you're making enormous leaps. I &... by Patrick Walker on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:49:48 PM
We agree: saving the climate is the #1 issue. Unfo... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:44:14 AM
Eric, so you admit--you ARE giving up on saving th... by Patrick Walker on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:18:49 AM
No one is in any position to be "giving Dems an UL... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:51:54 AM
Eric, you've already contradicted yourself on cl... by Patrick Walker on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:41:04 AM
I've got to leave this stimulating discussion for ... by Patrick Walker on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:32:37 AM
Eric, I find you intelligent, well-informed, and w... by Patrick Walker on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:57:35 AM
Although most scientists think that it's probably ... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:43:35 AM
To my mind, a lower--but still real--probab... by Patrick Walker on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:18:37 AM
I agree with you 100%... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:23:39 AM
Patrick, until we have electoral reform, action to... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:23:39 PM
I STRONGLY agree that lack of electoral reform is ... by Patrick Walker on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:10:20 AM
Underlying issue is population growth, exceeding c... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:07:58 AM
About inaccurate summary of the Weimar Republic de... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:16:14 AM
Saying "the" number 1 issue is climate change. Tha... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:30:50 AM
This is one of those 'chicken and egg' things! If ... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:27:43 AM
Jesus! will you get the hell off the Nader bashing... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:53:54 PM
This theory of yours, that "perhaps the horror of ... by Pal Palsimon on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:02:48 PM
Ron Paul is a true-believing libertarian, and libe... by Eric Zuesse on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:38:22 PM
Well Ayn Rand thinking has become so discredited I... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:19:41 AM
If you don't like fascism, why do you keep voting ... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:51:32 AM
You are saying that all Democrats are "fascists." ... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:48:00 AM
Didn't say "all Democrats are fascists."  How... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:56:21 AM
I always opposed Joe McCarthy, but, if you had rea... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:10:39 PM
You can cite to yourself all you want and to someb... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:08:17 AM
And, 3: Nader was essential to Bush's "victory" in... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:38:30 PM
Reply to Charles Roll... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:15:01 PM
You have made your case, in a major-media forum, a... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:19:20 PM
In my "Reply to Charles Roll: above, I wasn't addr... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:38:59 PM
For some reason I can't get a point for you when I... by Pal Palsimon on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:54:42 PM
For goodness sake, what do you think could be wors... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:02:47 AM
"Ron Paul is a true-believing libertarian, and lib... by Alan 8 on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:36:33 PM
That's one variation on libertarianism, a distorti... by Charles Roll on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:50:33 PM
Pal, I fear Eric ultimately understands me better ... by Patrick Walker on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:13:01 PM
I also pin no hope on revolt, which is why I want ... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:23:48 AM
Re. your "If either a Republican or a Democrat win... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:59:00 AM
Sure there are progressive Democratic politicians,... by Jill Herendeen on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:27:56 PM
Kucinich wasn't a big-league political talent. Tha... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:12:35 PM
Kucinich's problem can best be seen in the fact th... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:48:34 AM
The ONLY talent that matters these days are a) mon... by Jill Herendeen on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:07:59 AM
I did not deny (lie) that there are no progressive... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:33:09 PM
I would say somewhat more than 3 or 4, but I get t... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:52:32 AM
We agree about Ron Paul, except that the only majo... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:41:02 AM
Sadly I did not get the choice to vote for Kucinic... by Pal Palsimon on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:00:37 PM
Republican victory ... might ultimately AID reform... by Charles Roll on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:38:32 PM
Charles, you and Eric (in one respect) deep... by Patrick Walker on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:12:15 AM
Well, now that I understand what you were trying t... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:19:50 AM
Eric, Just noticed this, and it gives me the impre... by Patrick Walker on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:42:59 AM
I could be wrong, but I do not think Bernie would ... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:35:33 PM
Do you remember a few years ago when Hillary was g... by Jerry Kelley on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:45:17 PM
I agree!... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:21:37 AM
@ Eric Zuesse: you reported in your article, page ... by b. sadie bailey on Monday, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:45:26 PM
Exactly, just another example of how the voters ge... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:45:53 AM
Yes.... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 7:49:00 AM
Just wanted to thank you for your kind comment&nbs... by Patrick Walker on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:03:42 AM
Ahem, I just scrolled though the comments and skim... by Faith Carr on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:02:19 AM
Re. your "Really, are ya'll arguing 2000 again? Re... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 9:57:43 AM
I wanted to address the part of your comments Eric... by Patrick Walker on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:11:24 AM
I concur with what Patrick Walker just said. When ... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:34:45 AM
I will say this, I can not wait to see who gets pi... by Faith Carr on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:19:33 PM
Glad you mentioned those issues. We ARE working lo... by Faith Carr on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:31:44 PM
Faith, I'm sad to see your comment had so m... by Patrick Walker on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:43:49 AM
Wow, ok, you win. Congratulations! Anybody else wa... by Faith Carr on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:08:43 PM
We get where you are coming from, Faith. You're no... by Charles Roll on Wednesday, Dec 25, 2013 at 1:45:34 AM
I second Patrick on that.... by Eric Zuesse on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:41:31 PM
Truth hurts, but I think you are being unduly hars... by Pal Palsimon on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:26:45 AM
I agree with you.... by Eric Zuesse on Thursday, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:45:34 AM
Sorry Faith, but I truly understand your position.... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:41:13 AM
I will vote for no woman for President who has 'ca... by Sun King on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 1:11:06 PM
as if a gifted progressive politician can't have "... by Eric Zuesse on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:24:56 PM
he he he , maybe someone would manage to somehow g... by Pal Palsimon on Tuesday, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:37:56 PM
Senator Warren is our best hope, I repeat.... by BFalcon on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:36:34 AM
I'd posted this as a reply to a comment by ... by Patrick Walker on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:03:17 AM
Speaking of "cultists". Sometimes you need a candi... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:24:55 PM
I was trying to point out some of the problems wit... by David Weaver on Wednesday, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:29:00 PM
There is something drastically wrong with a column... by Teddi Curtis on Saturday, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:23:57 PM