Come on, GW -- watch your rhetoric.

by Alan Donelson (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 86 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:16:17 AM

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"black" is not at all a derogatory term, and is what African-Americans call themselves.

If I am behind the times, and this has become a derogatory term, I sincerely apologize. 

by George Washington (189 articles, 27 quicklinks, 189 diaries, 219 comments [17 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:38:25 AM

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We have not seen hope in eight years, but Barack's victory provides a glimpse of Hope.  Financial Turmoil and hard times are baked in the cake, but the cake will be a little more sweet/palatable now.  The world can once again reconcile their perception of America and the reality

by kato krause (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 216 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:47:44 AM

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Let’s be generous and give Obama the whole four years of his initial term to make significant progress on the following issues. Here are some questions about “change” that we are going to be keeping track of until 2012.

- Will Obama repeal Patriot Acts I and II as well as reversing Bush’s signing statement and acknowledging the repeal of the John Warner Defense Authorization Act?

- Will Obama support Dennis Kucinich’s efforts to bring war crimes charges against Bush, Cheney and others for deceiving the country into a war or will he protect them against such charges like Nancy Pelosi has done?

- Will Obama bring war crimes charges against Bush, Cheney and others for authorizing torture and will the torture of suspects under U.S. detention, a complete violation of both the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions, cease under an Obama administration?

- Will Obama withdraw American troops from Iraq and Afghanistan without sending them away again to bomb another broken-backed third world country in the name of a UN-supported “humanitarian” war?

- Will Obama end the warrantless secret surveillance and phone-taps of American citizens?

- Will Obama follow through on his rhetorical support for the second amendment or will he seek to ban guns as he did in Illinois?

- Will Obama cease his support for the Bush-administration backed banker bailouts, hated by the majority of Americans, and target the real cause of the problem - the Federal Reserve - or will he continue to give taxpayers’ money to banks who are merely hoarding it all for themselves?

- Will Obama seek to continue the militarization of America and preparations for martial law through Northcom and the secret government or will he dismantle the police state that has been constructed over the last eight years by the Bush administration?

There can be no excuses - either Obama will be proven to be a liar or he will, backed by Democratic control of Congress and the Senate, follow through on his mandate for “change”.

Those caught up in Obama fever who would have otherwise voted for Ron Paul should heed the warnings of Dr. No.

As the coming of the new messiah drew closer, Paul had some sobering reminders for a CNN audience last night, pointing out that Obama will not cut spending, government will get bigger and more intrusive, foreign policy will remain the same and unpopular financial bailouts will continue.

We hope we are wrong, but forgive us for our cynicism, because whatever has emerged from the two-party monopoly in the past has always proven to be the problem - not the solution.

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DON'T BLAME ME I VOTED FOR MC KINNEY!!

by tiffane (4 articles, 2 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 47 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:35:00 AM

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We have many challenges that we need to overcome.  We will succeed at some and fail at others.  But given the presence of Hope, all challenges look less formiddable today  

by kato krause (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 216 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:14:14 PM

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Perhaps I'm cynical, but I don't see Obama adressing the critical issues she has raised. I don't see a repeal of the surveillance state. As Paul Mooney might say - "Ain't no n*gger gonna take on the CIA. Look what happened to Kennedy!" Will he pursue the Bush/Cheney cabal for war criminal/eco-terrorism? Will he end the lunacy of American Empire? 

I'm sorry to Rob and others, but I simply and unequivocally see the Democratic party as the the left hand to the Republican's right hand. I have a slight hope that he will call out the corruption, but I seriously doubt it. Look at his major contributors. Most of them are from Wall St. And Brzezinski is on his campaign team. What clearer message do you need?

I don't know why her message was flagged. It's a set of highly valid debate points.

That being said, I did get a bit misty thinking that it's about time we elected someone who's not a rich white man. 

by Kelly Mitchell (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 53 comments [23 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:00:06 PM

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I too agree with most of Tiffane's comment (I'm still thinking about the Federal Reserve) and I resent the attempt at heavy handed censorship by whoever flagged it.  I will progress from resentment to livid with anger if the editors agree with the flagger after their review.

The election of Obama is a dramatic confirmation of studies going back to the 1950's that showed a decline in racist attitudes among successive generations.  A Black President will also accelerate this decline in racism.  Tiffane's comment was merely pointing out some of the many ways in which we are not there yet.

I would add to her list of questions about what Obama will do the question of whether he will have his Department of Justice investigate and prosecute the false flag attack of September 11, 2001.

Was the comment considered "too negative" or angry by whoever flagged it?  While OpEdNews censors its contributors far less than any other online news medium, I have noticed more and more reasons for censorship being adopted by OEN ever since the word, Zionism, was banned, even in factual, non anti semitic statements such as "the Zionist movement began in the late 19th century."  At the beginning of this very edition of OEN, Rob Kall was implying that after the election of Obama, restrictions were going to be put on contributions that were too angry or negative.  True, anyone who does not recognize the major step towards the U.S. overcoming its racist past that the election of a Black President represents is blinded by either their anger or their ideology.  But there are many things that are still wrong, even outrageous and deplorable.  Will contributors to OEN now have to worry about sounding too angry lest they fall afoul of some prim, blue penciling, heavy handed censor?

Robert Halfhill

by rhalfhill (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 326 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:33:12 PM

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Tiffane has reposted same comment to multiple articles, regardless of topic 

by kato krause (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 216 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:16:47 PM

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Did you also notice Alan Keyes was running as the candidate of America's Independent Party?  Everything would have been good then too?

We are so close to MLK's dream, and yet so far away.  As long as we have to mention a candidate's ethnicity we have not quite reached the goal.

by Mike Kimball (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 87 comments [67 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:32:33 PM

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Although there was an African-American and a Woman running in the primaries and although it is well past time that we see either a woman or a black become President, this election was for me never about race any more than it was about sexuality.  Those were always minor distractions.

The real issues were to bring back a hope for achieving democracy, to have an honest election, to have a President that the majority of people supported.  It was about having an articulate voice in the White House that had the ability to listen to people and to think about issues.  It was about having a President who cared about the welfare of the common citizen and about the opinion of others in the world.  

And it was about hope that this country could again get about the work of rebuilding and strengthening the nation, its economy and its people.  Most of all, it was about rebuilding hope.

by PrMaine (13 articles, 13 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 510 comments [22 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:03:51 PM

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Although there was an African-American and a woman running in the primaries and although it is well past time that we see either a woman or a black become President, this election was for me never about race any more than it was about sexuality.  Those were always minor distractions.

The real issues were to bring back a hope for achieving democracy, to have an honest election, to have a President that the majority of people supported.  It was about having an articulate voice in the White House that had the ability to listen to people and to think about issues.  It was about having a President who cared about the welfare of the common citizen and about the opinion of others in the world.  

And it was about hope that this country could again get about the work of rebuilding and strengthening the nation, its economy and its people.  Most of all, it was about rebuilding hope.

by PrMaine (13 articles, 13 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 510 comments [22 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:05:05 PM

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was someone more sympathetic to the common man.  Analyzing the way the Publicans pushed their "be afraid, nay, be very afraid" of him possibly having a prejudice for other blacks, many of us, out here, realize that such a prejudice would actually encompass helping us commoners more than his only real opponent.  There's no way he, as a centrist black man, could possibly be worse.  (I only wish he was as left-leaning as our Publicans would have us believe.)

by lenngray (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 77 comments) on Wednesday, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:10:14 PM

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your heritage before being an American. I thought people here in the USA are American before they claim where they come from. I call myself an American of German decent, rather than a German-American.

I'd rather have the Republican-Lite Obama/Biden, than the neo-conservative McCain/Palin as administrators any-day, but the War Of Terror will continue, the bailout will proceed and Israel will not let up on its decades inhumane treatment of the Palestinian people, who are historically one and the same.

So, in the end, I don't see much change than what has happened over the past 8 years.

by Stanimal (2 articles, 228 quicklinks, 38 diaries, 1259 comments [235 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:29:07 AM

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