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What happens if GOP increased their Vote Tampering Margin for 2008 beyond that of 2000 and 2004?

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Anyone who has watched HBO's Hacking Democracy and Recount knows the evidence proving GOP guilty of systemic vote tampering in 2000 and again in 2004 is absolutely overwhelming. GOP vote tampering, caging and suppression is not a conspiracy theory, but a conspiracy fact resulting in the overthrow of democracy since the start of the 21st century. The results of this systematic GOP election fraud have obviously been disastrous for not just this nation, but for the entire world.

There's no way of knowing how many percentage points GOP gained from all the legal and illegal tactics they engaged in to suppress democratic votes in past elections, but a reasonable estimate might be somewhere between 2% to 5%. This is a percentage that could be referred to as a "-built in point spread', or as RFK Jr. and Greg Palast put it in "Block the Vote", the extra margin of GOP vote tampering democrats now need to beat in the 21st century to win a presidential election. The question America is faced with now is if Obama's approximate 8-10 point poll advantage is enough to beat a built in fraudulent GOP vote tampering "-point spread' subject to the level of desperation they clearly express to yet again illegally rule this nation into a state of total ruination.

The extreme desperation from both GOP and their republican base to rule the executive office is more evident now than it ever was in the previous two presidential elections. GOP has admitted they'll continue racist voter suppression tactics in the 2008 presidential election. Their vote tampering tactics leave democrats four times more likely than republicans to be unable to vote under Florida's new voter verification law alone. The 95%+ in the republican party and its constituency fostering a Christian Identity have taken their anti-communist, [anti-liberal] anti-Muslim, racist, and homophobic hate to a new level of extremes never before seen in the history of American politics.

There are various potential outcomes if GOP increases their fraudulent margin of vote tampering, or "-vote suppression point spread' enough to hand over the presidency to McCain. All of the outcomes from a 3rd fraudulent GOP presidential election will yet again be devastating to the world, but likely even more so domestically for Americans this time around than even what the unconstitutional Patriot Act did from the first term of Bush's illegal presidency.

I suspect if exit polls again evidence a democratic win, this time at even half of the 8-10% average pre-election poll lead Obama shows now, that there will likely be massive nationwide riots and protests over McCain being designated as the illegitimate "-winner." Americans are now more angry than ever after their legislature in cahoots with Bush admin looted $2 trillion in taxpayer funds to bailout Wall Street's predatory lenders. Conservatives will most assuredly attribute an Obama loss to the Persistent Myth of the Bradley Effect to dispel accusations of another GOP "-fixed' presidential election.

Riotous nationwide protests on such a grand scale never seen before over yet another fraudulent GOP election will give reason and purpose to the entire "homeland Army brigade"- fresh from Iraq that was conveniently deployed for a first time in the US on October 1st. The Army Times reporting this alarming "-homeland brigade' states its as of yet unnecessary purpose "to help with civil unrest and crowd control"- in subduing "unruly or dangerous individuals."-

A highly probable potential outcome of an Obama loss from polls this time around accompanied by exit polls showing an even wider democratic win margin than the previous 2 elections would be the imposition of Martial Law resulting from the "Bush Administration revising Continuity of Government plans, including "civil disturbance"- contingencies for suspending the Constitution long before the 9/11 attacks."-

Martial Law would be imposed to insure a smooth transition of a present GOP presidential administration illegally elected twice since the start of the 21st century to the next illegally elected McCain GOP administration. The Bush Admin recently threatened some members of Congress that America may face martial law if they didn't pass the bailout bill. Wayne Madsen reports FEMA sources have confirmed the Bush admin is putting final touches on plans to declare Martial Law.

Can anyone, but so called "conservatives"- drunk on GOP Kool Aid, really not consider the high probability that It's Already Stolen as the indubitable Greg Palast asserts? Will a few million Americans stand up in revolt against GOP if they yet again engage in sufficient vote tampering to illegally install a 3rd republican president? Would the Democratic Party back such a revolt, or would Obama oddly surrender to a quick loss just like Kerry did, despite overwhelming evidence of 2004 Ohio GOP vote fraud later proven to be true in a court of law? If such a possible outcome occurs how many Americans will be angry enough to step forward to be the democratic freedom fighters republicans will designate as domestic "insurgents"-? Will these American "freedom fighters"- have enough of a firm belief in an honest representative democracy to be able to defend it without flinching against the psychotic "true believer"- mentality supporting the continued oppression of human rights, freedom and democracy brought to US by God's Own Party [GOP]?

If a GOP president is illegally installed a 3rd time in the 21st century would the Democratic party finally do what needed to be done years ago with the RICO act to disband the entire Republican Party as an illegal political organization from proven systemic corruption, fraud, embezzlement, and illegal use of public funds, that has been as systemic as their rampant sex crime convictions and fraudulent vote tampering tactics? Political corruption poses one of the gravest threats to a nation's economic growth, democracy, and political stability in countries across the globe at all stages of political and economic development. Corruption scandals have toppled governments in both major industrial countries and developing countries. The cost to taxpayers is incalculable. Corruption steals money from social programs and services. (Bribes, kickbacks and inflated pricing add 5 percent to 30 percent to the cost of public projects, according to various estimates.) It erodes public confidence in government and undermines the legitimacy of political parties and their leaders.

Many nations across the globe have been forced to disband their corrupt political parties for illegal activities of a similar or lesser nature than the egregious crimes committed by America's Republican party. Legislation in many nations has been passed that is far more stringent than in America that limits opportunist political parties and their politicians from engaging in corrupt and illegal activities. Americans cannot continue to shrug off the rampant corruption evidenced in both parties, but particularly in the Republican party as if it is politics as normal that the Italians grew to expect and accept from their politicians for decades. It's gone far beyond slush funds, bribery, extortion and the pedophilia well known in the republican party to fraudulent elections that has brought the death of democracy and the demise of our republic. If we don't fertilize that proverbial [Boston] Tree of liberty Jefferson spoke of, we will have no liberty left to regain the freedoms already lost"-.

I don't see a possible outcome beyond Martial Law from an illegitimate Obama loss as a "-race war' like many in the radical racist Christian right desperately desire , but more of a virulent and armed "culture war"-. A culture war waged by many from the nationalistic 40% cult of "True Believers"- in America defending yet another illegitimate election of a republican president as both government and self-appointed "patriots"- against the rest of US. Regardless of the outcome of the 2008 election, the poverty and despair from what is now being called a 2nd Great Depression will likely produce ever growing numbers of Christian Fascists in America. However unlike the myriad of US fascist groups resulting from the poverty and despair of the 1st Great Depression, because of Hitler's historical legacy the new 21st century US brand of Christian Fascists will continue to vehemently deny their fascist reality and their 1920s and 1930s era racist roots in American fascism.

"It is the intolerant and blinding hatred of minorities among the religious fundamentalists that binds the fascists groups of the 1930s to today's right wing extremist groups. Much of the hate today can be directly traced back to those 1930's ministries of hate. The roots of today's tele-evangelists can be traced back to the 1930s. The media may have changed from radio to television but the format is unchanged from the style of format Father Coughlin used in the 1930s. His radio broadcasts reached millions, as did his followers in his organizations. His sermons were filled with virulent hate of Jews, communism and Roosevelt. Pat Robertson's, Jerry Falwell's or any of the other televangelists programs follow the same format today. Only today they carefully disguise their hate of Jews and substitute hate of gays, welfare (read that as the poor), abortion, unions or any other liberal program designed to help the poor or working man and of course Clinton replaced Roosevelt as an object for their scorn [insert Obama today scorned by the Christian right far beyond Clinton for more obvious racial reasons"- [The 1930s: Nazis Parading on Main Street; Part 6: The Pro-Nazis of the 1930s]

Another more frightful possible outcome of an Obama loss leading to Martial Law supported by a "culture war"- waged by an armed fundamentalist "Army of God"- cult of republican Christians defending an illegitimate McCain presidency might also in time lead to the full blown dominionist theocracy the Christian right has been seeking for decades now. Such a scenario there might be hurried along by a covert VP and fundamentalist Christian supported assassination of McCain just as the JFK assassination has been repeatedly suggested to be the work of LBJ, the CIA and right-wing Texans.

My gut tells me that many others also are experiencing internal conflict over growing probabilities to any of these aforementioned potential outcomes from yet another GOP election won by illicit GOP vote tampering. That same gut feeling also tells me why this election is being referred to by the Media so often as "the most important election of our lifetime."- Regardless of the possible outcomes of another fraudulent election from GOP vote tampering, it remains difficult to foresee any of them as anything but devastating for Americans on either side of this on-going culture war.

Disclaimer: Author is not promoting, advocating, or calling for the overthrow of the US government, or the death or assassination of any government official or citizen, but only speculates about possible outcomes from well known and rampant election fraud previously evidenced in the United States as occurring yet again.

 

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An article to read and then study

Since I was old enough to know what was at stake the first time FDR was elected, I take this article very seriously.

As the US tries to keep its dollar steady (the most encouraging sign so far) and as it faces the necessity to earn the respect of other nations after a wrong-headed administration, we can take heart that:  1) we have the history of another time and 2) we  have tools, used then but ignored recently.  It's true that the president-elect will need a message, implying an active program, before inauguration.  

Also, we must remember that the condition of most citizens is considerably better off than it was in 1932.  So my feeling is that cybercommunication among many of us here should be proactive.  Name-calling is inflammatory.  Reacting to those who want to return to the 19th century is counterproductive.  

I'm not willing to give up on the United States and its ability to reinvent itself.  

by Margaret Bassett (45 articles, 2909 quicklinks, 42 diaries, 1851 comments [99 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:03:30 AM

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Reply: Thank you for your kind comments

Thank you for you kind comments Margaret! It's so nice to see someone from your Gread Depression generation of wisdom and life experience here at Opednews! You even went to 'Roosevelt University'!  My aged parents like you were born into the Great Depression era and just mentioned to me yesterday how they'll likely pass on during a 2nd American Great Depression, although thankfully like you seem to be, they are in excellent health for their earlier 80s. 

I'm much older than that old photo showing me when I was a geetar toting, pot smoking, republican bashing, liberal hippie undergrad college student. As a more 'assertive' atheist, I don't use a recent photo of myself from fear of recognition on the streets of Las Vegas [everyone visits here sooner or later;-] from so many 'alleged' 'conservatives' across America having stripping off their republican business suits to reveal NeoNazi uniforms and KKK hoods underneath. The GOP [God's Own Party] constituency has fully revealed its foundations in the Christian Identity Movement [referenced in 2nd definition of Racist, Christian-based Faith Groups] this election season

Perhaps I feels sort of kinship to the Roosevelts from an age old 18th century NYC Dutch ancestry [Merrick, Long Island in my case] but I think many are now rediscovering potential solutions from this past Great Depression era as at least partially applicable to the severity of our present economic crisis. I became fascinated with the history of that 1st Great Depression a few years back from learning the amazing true story of Major General Smedley Butler and how he almost singled handed saved America from a Republican motivated Wall Street Plot to Seize the White House, overthrow FDR and install a Fascist dictatorship like those found flourishing in Europe in 1933.

Butler's history of military service, almost sole responsibility for saving America from a Fascist coup, and the final conclusion he came to in 'War is a Racket' leaves US with such an amazing life story of ultimate heroism that desperately needs to be told from a much wider media source such as a major motion picture. It is an astounding story so many Americans will find so relevant to the dire crisis we all face today from reliable economic forecasts predicting economic dooms day with a US government defaulting on its $10 trillion debt by summer of 2009. I will not get into the potential outcomes from that scenario because it will scare the well earned wrinkles right off your face Margaret;-]

I've managed to collect what little documents exist on this Fascist coup attempt including transcripts of the suppressed Smedley testimony to the  House of Reps' Dickstein MacCormackCommmittee on Un-American Activities' [later used as a platform for McCarthyism]. This is a screenplay that needs to be pitched and written - and who knows, perhaps I can manage to get ahold of an old best friend from college undergrad days who later was a producer and writer for Moonlighting and West Wing [originally from Iowa by the way;-] to do just that.... 

You're correct about the tools used during the New Deal to solve then what was mostly a farm mortage crisis.   The bailout is a corporatist fraud forced on to all taxpayers that does not address the core problem in the financial industry. This bailout only solves some of the problems the financial institutions are having from holding toxic assets. The bailout needed to be focused on the origin of the problem it is attempting to address, the homeowners who are defaulting on their mortgages. 

As Yale professors Koppell and Goetzmann point out, the financial instruments are troubled because of mortgage defaults.  Stopping the problem at its origin restores the value of the mortgage-based derivatives and puts an end to the crisis. This approach has the further advantage of stopping the continued downward slide of housing prices and ending the erosion of local tax bases that have resulted from foreclosures and houses being dumped onto the market.

Now one could suggest there is a hazard from a type of socialism that bails out the homeowners who over-leveraged themselves, but the economic hazard is far worse from this bailout's present corporatist [economic policy of fascism] form that will not solve the original problem. And remember, it was the toxic stew of government initated deregulation of the mortgage industry with the housing bubble that created the circumstances for these corrupt, predatory mortage lenders to abuse vulnerable borrowers to begin with.

Congress needed to focus the bailout on refinancing the troubled mortgages more like FDR did in the 1930s [ironically New Deal work projects were similar to Musolini's type of public works reforms;-] ,and not on the troubled financial institutions holding the toxic debt from the mortgages. This entire economic crisis only proves strict regulations are needed for free markets to even exist. It also proves once and for all the corporatist deregulation policies from predominantly republican administrations that were initiated during the Reagan era to acheive a 'free market' economy are a complete hoax.

Some Links to Two Great Depression eras of Corporate American Fascism [all clicking to new browsers]

FDR 'We will have a liberal democracy, or we will return to the Dark Ages': Eleanor sees future Hitlerian abuse of Liberals

The Ghost of FDR's VP Wallace Warns 'It [Fascism] Can Happen Here' : 'The Danger of American Fascism' by Wallace 

Wall Street's Corporatist Plot to Seize the White House: Facing the Corporate American Roots in American Fascism

Bush's Grandfather Planned Fascist Coup In America : The Fascist Plot to Overthrow FDR : The Nazi Hydra In America

George W Bush, the Neocons, and The Nazi Ties That Bind : How Bush's Grandfather helped Hitler Rise to Power

Bush Family Fraud for 4 Generations [video-text]: From supporting US enemies Abroad & Defrauding US From Within

Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime: How the Bush Admin Stopped the States From Stepping In to Help Consumers

GW Bush Vision for America: SWF Flash Movie on all 14 Elements of all Fascist regimes evidenced in Bush's America

Flash Video about the Bush Family Nazi Collaboration: Bush Family wealth stems directly from supporting 3rd Reich Nazis

Welcome to the Final Stages of the Bush-NeoCon Fascist Coup : Do YOU Support the Economic Policy of Fascism?

Bush Proves Karl Marx Correct About Capitalism: The Beneficiaries are the 1% in the US owning 99% of its total wealth

Socialism for the Wealthiest 400 Americans is Fascism for the 150 million they are richer than : Bait and Switch Fascism"

Is this the US Congress or Goldman Sachs Board of Directors?" Asks a sole Liberal in 'de House' in rejecting Bailout

Death of the Evangelical Roots of Free Market Economics in GOP Politics : Where Greed is Godly & God is Greedy

by Adnihilo (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 74 comments) on Saturday, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:40:02 PM

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...for your very comprehensive blog, Adnihilo, and also for your similar 'addendum' in the Comments thread.  I particularly appreciated the link to Gov. Eliot Spitzer's op-ed in the Wash. Post of Feb. '08; for which it would appear he got politically assassinated.  But he really said it all right there: this economic bust was a setup, and couldn't be disturbed by weisenheimers like him who didn't 'get' the larger picture.  Similar (in pre-empting state regulation) to the HAVA - Help Americans Vote Act - that took the voting out of the hands of state electoral boards and put the counting in the hands of private, for-profit corporations and their secret, mutable software.  Neat.  Mussolini couldn't have planned things better.

Please keep us alerted from your perspective, on what's going down in our day and age. 

by kibitzer2 (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 49 comments) on Sunday, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:34:43 PM

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