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September 16, 2008 at 09:27:11

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Woody & Arlo Guthrie: True American Patriots

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According to Woody Guthrie's own biography at woddyguthrie.org, "Woodrow Wilson Guthrie was born on July 14, 1912, in Okemah, Oklahoma. Describing the small frontier town in Okfuskee County, Woody writes: "Okemah was one of the singiest, square dancingest, drinkingest, yellingest, preachingest, walkingest, talkingest, laughingest, cryingest, shootingest, fist fightingest, bleedingest, gamblingest, gun, club and razor carryingest of our ranch towns and farm towns, because it blossomed out into one of our first Oil Boom Towns." Woody was the second-born son to Charles and Nora Belle Guthrie. His father was a cowboy, land speculator, and local politician. His Kansas-born mother profoundly influenced Woody in ways which would become apparent as he grew older. Slightly built, with an extremely full and curly head of hair, Woody was both a precocious and unconventional boy from the start. A keen observer of the world around him, during his early years in Oklahoma, Woody experienced the first in a series of tragic personal losses - the death of his older sister, Clara - would haunt him throughout his life. This followed by the financial and physical ruin, and the institutionalization of his mother would devastate Woody's family and home, forming a uniquely wry and rambling outlook on life.

 

Woody became part of the great migration out West, the one that would be later called the "Dust Bowl" which saw countless millions migrate to Washington, Oregon and California. These people would later become known as Okies, and those who joined them from Arkansas would become Arkies. These people will forever be immortalized in the John Ford movie, "Grapes of Wrath," written by a local Californian, John Steinbeck, but discussing the sudden migration of countless thousands of farm workers to the Salinas Valley in California's golden coast. By the time he arrived in California, in 1937, Woody had experienced the intense scorn, hatred, and antagonism of resident Californians who were opposed to the influx of outsiders. Woody's identification with outsider status would become part and parcel of his political and social positioning, one which gradually worked its way into his songwriting, as evident in his Dust Bowl Ballads such as I Ain't Got No Home, Goin' Down the Road Feelin' Bad, Talking Dust Bowl Blues, and Tom Joad and Hard Travelin'. His 1937 radio broadcasts on KFVD, Los Angeles, and XELO in Tijuana, Mexico, brought Woody and his new singing partner, Maxine Crissman or Lefty Lou, wide public attention, while providing him with a forum from which he could develop his talent for controversial social commentary and criticism on topics ranging from corrupt politicians, lawyers, and businessmen to praising the humanist principles of Jesus Christ, Pretty Boy Floyd, and Union organizers.

 

But Woody wasn't satisfied with his newfound fame in Los Angeles. He traveled to New York City where he was immediately embraced by the leftist entertainment community of the day. Lead Belly, Cisco Houston, Burl Ives, Pete Seeger, Will Geer, Sony Terry, Brownie McGhee, Josh White, Millard Lampell, Bess Hawes, Sis Cunningham, among others, became Woody's friends and collaborators, taking up such social causes as Union organizing, anti-Fascism, strengthening the Communist Party, and generally fighting for the things they believed in the only way they knew how: through political songs of protest.

 

And Woody wasn't satisfied with his New York contemporaries either. After only a few years, he set off south in search of his true calling. He soon received an invitation to Oregon where a documentary film project about the building of the Grand Coulee Dam sought to use his songwriting talent. The Bonneville Power Authority placed Woody on the Federal payroll for a month and there he composed yet another remarkable collection of songs: The Columbia River Songs, which include Roll on Columbia and Grand Coulee Dam.

Around the same time, he joined Pete Seeger in the legendary folk-protest group Almanac Singers, with whom he toured the country, and moved into the cooperative Almanac House in Greenwich Village. 

Guthrie originally wrote and sang anti-war songs with the Almanac Singers, but after America's entry into World War II he began writing anti-fascist tunes. Guthrie famously wrote the slogan "This Machine Kills Fascists" on his guitar. Woody was a devout anti-fascist, and served several tours of duty in WWII. Woody served in both the Merchant Marine and the Army, shipping out to sea on several occasions with his buddies Cisco Houston and Jimmy Longhi. In one of many anti-Fascist songs written during the war, Woody tells us:

 

We were seamen three, / Cisco, Jimmy and me

Shipped out to beat the fascists / Across the land and sea.

 

In 1940, Woody penned, "This Land is Your Land," a take off on the Baptist hymn, "When the World's on Fire," recorded by the Carter Family ten years before. Nevertheless, the song became almost an instant traditional ballad that Woody wrote specifically to replace the song, "God Bless America," a song Woody felt was undeserving of the high praise given it by others. Woody was very patriotic and always sought to address the true concerns of this country. He would take whatever step, walk whatever mile, ride whatever link in order to get his point across. In 1967, Pete Seeger wrote of Woody during this time frame, "When Woody Guthrie was singing hillbilly songs on a little Los Angeles radio station in the late 1930s, he used to mail out a small mimeographed songbook to listeners who wanted the words to his songs. On the bottom of one page appeared the following: "This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do."

 

Fortunately, we can still find commentary by the Library of Congress back in 1941, "Several letters reflect Guthrie's Communist ideals in his sensitivity to the condition of the working class and to problems of corruption. For example, in his letter of February 15, 1941 Guthrie writes, "folks are just plain folks everywhere you go, all has been hit hard, went through several political cyclones, been sold out so often that they feel like they've got pimps." In another letter, called Vote for Bloat, he remarks on problems with elections in the United States:

 

"The average elections are about as useful as a slop jar without a bottom in it.... Down in Baltimore Md., they won't let you buy no liquor on election day and so they sell more than ever on that day. They say they want you to vote sober. What difference does it make, you couldn't vote no wronger. Sometimes I think they ought to try it the other way. If the people was to ever win an election, they'd think they was dead and in heaven, I mean in heaven without a having to die.... Some states charge you $1.75 to vote they call it poll tax, that takes a weeks groceries and snuff and most folks figure that the democrats aint worth 1.75 and the republicans aint worth that much." Woody could have been describing the 2008 elections for what it's worth. He was a patriot before his time, a true balladeer of American folklore, who lived the hard, rural life, and who sang praises about it. This is also part of my upbringing, so I feel a kinship. I must say that it is also the life of many people around the world, all of whom could share in his music.

 

Of course, being a child of the 60s, I can't leave this message with a discussion of just Woody Guthrie. It would be like discussing one side of the coin. By the time I heard of the person, "Woody Guthrie," as opposed to the "song by Woody Guthrie, 'This Land is Your Land,'" I had already heard of his son, Arlo Guthrie. For those who lived during the late 60s, there is no mistaking two great phenomes during those years, Yellow Submarine and Alice's Restaurant. Unbeknownst to us hippies, we were being given the teachings of Woody through his son, Arlo. All of the absurdities of government were well exposed. Arlo's exposure of a blind judge to proceed over his case, after the prosecution put into evidence 27 pictures is hilarious.

 

Arlo Guthrie was born with a guitar in one hand and a harmonica in the other, in Coney Island, Brooklyn, New York in 1947. He is the eldest son of America's most beloved singer/writer/philosopher Woody Guthrie and Marjorie Mazia Guthrie. Arlo Guthrie's career exploded in 1967 with the release of "Alice's Restaurant", whose title song premiered at the Newport Folk Festival helped foster a new commitment among the '60s generation to social consciousness and activism. Arlo went on to star in the 1969 Hollywood film version of "Alice's Restaurant", directed by Arthur Penn.

 

Here, in this excerpt from Alice's Restaurant, we hear about the absurdity of American justice on a local level. The scene is Stockbridge, Massachusetts, the day after Thanksgiving, 1965. Arlo and his friend Ray were accused of dumping garbage on the side of the road. As he stated earlier in the song, "we came to a side road, and off the side of the side road was another fifteen-foot cliff, and at the bottom of the cliff was another pile of garbage. And we decided that one big pile was better than two little piles, and rather than bring that one up, we decided to throw ours down. That's what we did." This event triggered a response by the police that became so tragically comical as to render the entire judicial proceedings a farce. In Arlo's own words:

 

"Drove back to the church, had a Thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat, went to sleep, and didn't get up until the next morning, when we got a phone call from Officer Obie. He said, "Kid, we found your name on a envelope at the bottom of a half a ton of garbage and I just wanted to know if you had any information about it."

And I said, "Yes sir, Officer Obie, I cannot tell a lie. I put that envelope under that garbage." After speakin' to Obie for about forty-five minutes on the telephone, we finally arrived at the truth of the matter and he said that we had to go down and pick up the garbage, and also had to go down and speak to him at the Police Officer Station.

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53 year old Californian male - I've lived in three different countries, USA, Switzerland, Mesico - speak three languages fluently, English, French, Spanish - parttime journalist for Empower-Sport Magazine
John Little53 year old Californian male - I've lived in three different countries, USA, Switzerland, Mesico - speak three languages fluently, English, French, Spanish - parttime journalist for Empower-Sport Magazine

stickshift

Thanks for the comment. I never even thought of Alice's Restaurant in any other context other than political. The year the movie came out my older brother turned 18 and started moving every few months just to stay ahead of the induction notice. I turned 18 a few years later, but by then it had turned into a lottery system and my birthday was #262 or something.

He's had other hits as well, but that one will always be his signature song. It's not often that a son comes along and affects people as much as his father. They are both Americana icons and what I really appreciate from both of them is the fact that they were way out of mainstream everything. They followed the true pioneer spirit of America and spoke to an America that lives in our hearts if not so much in life anymore.

by John Little (23 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 71 comments) on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 12:37:18 PM
 


The author lives in a small village in central Europe and has been active in the local workers movement for nearly 3 decades.

Globalism knows no borders, why should we ?

Tony ForestThe author lives in a small village in central Europe and has been active in the local workers movement for nearly 3 decades.

Globalism knows no borders, why should we ?

the Machine

Woodie's machine made an impression on me. His songs too. The area roght there devided by the state line between Kansas and Oklahoma is the place I call home. My real home. I was born and raised there. I guess that's why I can understand and relate to Alro so well. Woodie's reputation kinda impressed me. Granddad would talk about the depression and how men were jumpin trains to get where there was work, or just to get away from the responsibility of a family. He said time has a way of repeating itself and he hoped the repetition wouldn't happen while I was still around, young and a dad with kids cryin for food all the time. Granddad loved Woodie's music.

Arlo came to me via Woodstock and all that Hippie jazz. Not directly mind ya, as I was only nine years old. Like a wave on the ocean, the woodstock generation took a while to hit europe and I got the last good wave the year I came over. My wife, a german national turned me on to Arlo's music and I said, damn, baby, that name sounds famil-yer. 

Shit happens.

by Tony Forest (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 166 diaries, 1429 comments) on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 1:42:39 PM
 


The author lives in a small village in central Europe and has been active in the local workers movement for nearly 3 decades.

Globalism knows no borders, why should we ?

Tony ForestThe author lives in a small village in central Europe and has been active in the local workers movement for nearly 3 decades.

Globalism knows no borders, why should we ?

Me again

I was too quick shooting my wad there. Just wanna say, and this is the God's truth...........................I swear.....................

I don't wanna a pickle, I just wanna ride my motor............sickle.

I don't wanna die, I just wanna ride my motor..............Cy..........kul.

by Tony Forest (7 articles, 18 quicklinks, 166 diaries, 1429 comments) on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 1:45:00 PM
 


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Margaret BassettMargaret Bassett is an 86-year old, currently living in senior housing, with a lifelong interest in political conumbrums. She hopes to hold out for one more presidential election. Bachelors from State University of Iowa (1944) and Masters from Roosevelt University (1975) help to unravel important requirements for modern communication. Early introduction to computer science (1966) trumps them. It's payback time. She's been "entitled" so long she hopes to find some good coming off the keyboa...

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I don't want to die, I just want to ride my motorcy

I was just the right age (but not gender) when Pearl Harbor happened. When that misbegotten war in Nam came along, I was well aware of how wars stir people around in the world.  We had DPs and witch hunts and plenty of jobs after World War II, but we didn't have a sense of proportion. A lot of the music turned syrupy.  And then came the 60's to liberate us.  Seeger set me straight about ticky tacky. I had the joy of working with cubicles full of Baby Boomers, and they needed me to tell them about Tricky Dick and I needed them to find the music.  When it came to Arlo Guthrie, I think I just happened to hear his motorcy song while I was drudging away.  Ever since, it has become my personal lament.  

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Meryl Ann ButlerMeryl Ann Butler is an artist, author and educator who counts First Lady Dolley Payne Todd Madison as well as two signers of the Articles of Confederation among her ancestors. Mary Ball, mother of George Washington is in the ancestral lineage of Butler's great grandmother, Blanche Ball. Grateful to know that the blood of America's founding mothers and fathers runs in her veins, Butler has been newly filled with matriotism as a direct result of the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. Lest she a...

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I'm smiling for miles ...

Comment from Ratings:   Thanks for the memories ... it's been a long time since i listened to my LP's of Arlo and Woody, but I'm glad to remember those days, and reminiscing about going in to "the city" (as all Long Islanders called, it, as if there was only one) to see the limited engagement of Alice's Restaurant, the movie. We even had an "Alice's Restaurant" on Northern Boulevard, as i recall, near Roslyn, the food was great!

by Meryl Ann Butler (49 articles, 53 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 449 comments) on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 5:06:42 PM
 


I am a Vietnam Vet disabled by MS and other various diseases.  On average I am a Moderate with slight Conservative leanings although it truly depends on what issue I am concerned with at the time.
Hayesml47I am a Vietnam Vet disabled by MS and other various diseases.  On average I am a Moderate with slight Conservative leanings although it truly depends on what issue I am concerned with at the time.

Woody and Arlo, A team that can't be beat!

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.  Woody challenged everyone that heard his songs to think about their world and their responsibilities to it.   Arlo expounded on Woodys song base and pushed us even more.   Arlo was born in the same year I was so I identify with him more but both Woody and Arlo are one of the greatest treasures this or any country could ever have.   In closing I must say that I don't want a pickle, I just want impeachment and my country back!

by Hayesml47 (6 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 504 comments) on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 5:32:57 PM
 


53 year old Californian male - I've lived in three different countries, USA, Switzerland, Mesico - speak three languages fluently, English, French, Spanish - parttime journalist for Empower-Sport Magazine
John Little53 year old Californian male - I've lived in three different countries, USA, Switzerland, Mesico - speak three languages fluently, English, French, Spanish - parttime journalist for Empower-Sport Magazine

All of you, thanks

I hear in the words above a reverent reflection on how things were and a sigh of regret on how they've turned out I think both Woody and Arlo would agree with me that the fault lays squarely at our feet. They used their talent to move mountains (of people) in a positive and constructive direction. A lot of the good that came out of the 20th Century can be directly traced back to them. They wrote and sang what was in their heart and they did it in a way that millions of us replied, "RIGHT ON!!"

They lit the flame and if we don't act, we'll let it blow out. I remember the 60s very well. And I also heard of the union clashes and stark repression of earlier eras that Woody wrote so much about. In the words of Pink Floyd, we've become "comfortably numb." I think "comfortably numb" has taken us about as far as it could go.

If we ever want to see any remnant of America in the future, we'll have to act soon and with direction. Woody and Arlo gave us inspirational music and a sense of purpose. Wherever there is direction towards peace that's where we need to be. Wherever there is the clarion call for justice and equality, there shall our feet walk. Wherever there is the seed of peace and harmony among all peoples, there shall our gardens grow.

I'm sorry to divert a bit from the goodness and joy both men have given us over the years, but they mean much more to me than simple mantlepieces of a bygone era that no longer suit our ways. I admired and revered Arlo and then Woody, and as I learned more about them, their lives and their gifts, I also learned a lesson in positive and peaceful movement towards the country of yesteryear, the one our founding fathers forged from their own blood, sweat and tears.

I bring them back now to bring back not only the warmth of their songs, but the need of their mission. They helped forge a path to the real America. We need to continue down that path and finish what they've started. I think they would agree that nothing less is acceptable.

by John Little (23 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 71 comments) on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 9:30:22 PM
 


Retired. Male. Western Minnesota. Social Science/Spanish undergrad majors. Master's in Counseling. Socialist.
Bryan EmmelRetired. Male. Western Minnesota. Social Science/Spanish undergrad majors. Master's in Counseling. Socialist.

True American Patriots

I agree John.  Woody hated fascism and as we look around us our president is the grandson of a fascist who was part of a group of businessmen who wanted to overthrow FDR's government.  The fascists have infested the administration and done great damage to the constitution.

Many of those people in Woody's era were communists or socialists, not because they had anything to do with some foreign country, but because they believed in justice for all Americans.

by Bryan Emmel (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 226 comments) on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 1:45:43 AM
 


The author has a Master's Degree in Counseling Psychology, which she can find no profitable use for.She was a '60's rebel and anti-war protester. She is now 21st century rebel, anti-war protestor, anarchist, and would-be writer. Think for yourself!
Sharon FroehlichThe author has a Master's Degree in Counseling Psychology, which she can find no profitable use for.She was a '60's rebel and anti-war protester. She is now 21st century rebel, anti-war protestor, anarchist, and would-be writer. Think for yourself!

Woody and Arlo Guthrie

Comment from Ratings:   Thank you John,
I an also a child of the 60's, but somehow I got hooked on Woody and read his autobiography before I knew about Alice and the restaurant and the draft and Arlo. I am in awe of both of them, This Land Is Your Land is the only song approaching patriotic that I will sing, and we listen to Alice's Restaurant on the radio every Thanksgiving,
I have it memorized anyway. I have since the 60's, and the answer to the question: Kid-have you rehabilitated yourself?
"You mean, I'm sitting here on the bench, the Group W. bench, cause you want to know if I'm moral enough to join the Army, burn women, kids, houses, and villages after being a LITTERBUG!?"
should be thought about deeply by anyone thinking about joining any branch of Armed Servicies.

by Sharon Froehlich (0 articles, 9 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 32 comments) on Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 9:35:23 AM
 

 

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