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July 4, 2008 at 17:30:11

Headlined on 7/4/08:
Today is the Fourth. Stand up. For at least once in your life STAND UP!

by Ed Tubbs     Page 1 of 1 page(s)

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Two issues come to the fore

In response to my July 3 posting, “Oh God, when will it end?” Laudyms wrote, “I agree with most of what you write, but not the part about abandoning friends and relatives who support the Iraq horrors for the wrong reasons. Maybe if you know some mercenary cynic who embraces death and destruction for profit- well sure, cu them loose. But most GOPers are deluded by sentiment and false information. Have pity on them, and hope the realities will make them reassess their choices.”

The first issue raised goes to the anonymity offered by the Internet and the clearly delusional presupposition encased in our National Anthem: the “home of the brave.” Generally I do not respond to those too timid, too faint-hearted, the summer soldiers who lack even sufficient courage to identify themselves appropriately. Not a single advance in human progress has ever been accomplished by such as these. Every advance has been by those with the backbone to stand up and say, “Here I am, take your best shot, because I’m not backing down.”

No newspaper accepts a letter to the editor without the full name and city of residence of the author of the letter. I cannot grasp why any Internet op-ed platform should be different. I am wholly unconvinced by assertions that to provide one's full name and city of residence is dangerous today. That goes directly to the issue of courage and the strength of one’s convictions. Either you’ve got ‘em, or you don’t. If you’re deficient, the sidelines, as a silent spectator, is where you ought to remain. Unfortunately for this country and for this world, the noxious tide has built to the point that silent spectators are a burden to the task. What are needed, and needed desperately, are those who will stand tall, to be counted.

The second issue is a child of the first: “abandoning friends and relatives.” One is not abandoning anybody when one stands on solid principles of decency. Let’s reluctantly provide a pass for those who voted for George Bush and his GOP backers in the legislature in 2000. But, certainly by 2004 the crimson stains and depredations were so manifest that only those who liked the idea of thousands of small children suffering the most gruesome mutilations, only those who liked the idea of utter waste and carnage writ great across entire horizons, only those who liked the idea of damning entire future generations of Americans to the most dire poverty voted to retain, nay, advance and expand the policies that culminated in the preceding calumnies. BY THEIR VOTES THEY SAID ‘I LOVE THIS.’

Or, is any other interpretation the least possible? And by their votes they made it all possible. They were the enablers, without which it just could not have continued. They are as Lady MacBeth, and the terrible spot of their personal criminality will not “out.” Their hands are soiled by the deaths and mutilations they made possible, and that they said they were for. For anyone to let another off the hook, for any reason — blood relationship or other — reeks of the most pathetic and tawdry and cowardly misanthropy. If you are so impoverished as to need a friend that much . . .

As I was growing up, my mother used to remind me “You are who you hang with.”

Laudyms defined the shallowness of his character.

Today is the Fourth of July, the day when proud men, angry men facing a hangman’s noose, stood up and stood their ground, to tell the king of the most powerful nation on earth, “Go to hell, you sonofabitch — take your best shot, because we’re not backing down.” What say others? Who among us today will stand and with the courage to affix their legitimate name to the cry, unapologetically exclaim, “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any longer!”?

I am Ed Tubbs, and I am in Oakland, California.

 

An "Old Army Vet" and liberal, qua liberal, with a passion for open inquiry in a neverending quest for truth unpoisoned by religious superstitions. Per Voltaire: "He who can lead you to believe an absurdity can lead you to commit an atrocity."

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Jim Prues is a entrepreneur and small business principal whose interests include writing, music, culture, ecology and the human condition. He's been captivated by this 'World 5.0' idea and is dedicated to its development. He lives in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Jim PruesJim Prues is a entrepreneur and small business principal whose interests include writing, music, culture, ecology and the human condition. He's been captivated by this 'World 5.0' idea and is dedicated to its development. He lives in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Okay I'm standing

Okay, Ed, I'm standing. Now what? Do we stop paying taxes? Do we hold another D.C. march that is ignored by the corporate media? Do we move to another land?

I'm all for standing, and understanding, but where do we go from here? 

by Jim Prues (15 articles, 33 quicklinks, 10 diaries, 73 comments) on Friday, July 4, 2008 at 7:02:22 PM
 


Virginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

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ladybroadoakVirginia Simson is a spiritual journalista/activist who runs a visionary planetary tutorial blogspot, www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com as well as a blog on the uranium industry and depleted uranium at www.lowlevelradiation.blogspot.com. She feels that we must educate the young as to the real issues of the day - economics, clean energy, a drug free lifestyle, friendship and concern for the environment. We must plan for seven generations in the future. She unconditionally supports impeachment and...

to see more of bio, click on member name

There will BE impeachment .. (so here's some suggestions)

Starting with Cheney for treason, as it should be. This signals to the other WAR CRIMINALS that they'd best watch their backs. The issue of Plame is legally going to be pursued by Conyers; Cheney has NO defense, since it's illegal to "out" an agent during "war time" -- even if that war was illegal in the first place. He can't have his cake and eat it, too.

BuZh comes next.

Covering up WAR CRIMES is only now becoming "fashionable" - but you'll see the CHANGE in this coming. One of my reasons for disliking OOOOO bama so much (who supposedly is a Constitutional scholar and knows ALL ABOUT GENEVA, for shit's sake) is that he never mentions WAR CRIMES either.

IT's OUR job to keep putting out the CRIES about WAR CRIMINALITY wherever we can. The majority of people are on our side, although we know it's going to be difficult to turn around the media as they themselves were complicit.

Over the summer, we must continually write to ALL who WILL listen, get on radio talk shows and talk about WAR CRIMES. There is NO statute of limitations on WAR CRIMES.

Many think there won't be accountability but there WILL be; as only the US is not a signatory to the ICC. I ain't waiting for nitwit Obama's election to keep pushing for the RULE OF LAW. It makes me sick how the US CONgress never pushed for impeachment, as it does most OpEd Readers, but now the DoD emails have been released, Scottie's C's book came out which can match dates to show the dates, other documents are available to WAR CRIMES prosecutors -

Plan to attend the University of Massachusetts conference in September for the WAR CRIMES conference! It will be HISTORIC. Although I am somewhat intimidated and not having a fast response from others so far .. I am gonna see that the CANADIAN contingent shows up. Why not get involved in supporting the US elements who are going?

http://velvelonnationalaffairs.blogspot.com/2008/06/prosecuting-for-war-crimes-as-lincoln.html

You can call up NOW, get a reservation (although the phone line is taking message for about two weeks) and hopefully the CITIZEN leadership will get it together in that time, I am trying my damndest to see that all that gets taken care of, and when it DOES, I will post it on OpEd News.

I can use ANYONE's help at all, although I know I will hear from others in due time.

So HERE, I am standing up! Here's my name and number:

Virginia Simson

133 Broadway Avenue,

Apartment 2

Toronto Ontario

416 488-3149.

ladybroadoak@gmail.com

(and yes, I am both a Canadian AND an American, although many seem to forget that! No one can really take your American Citizenship away, although BuZhCo and Bill Clinton sure tried to do that to me.) I can't wait to kiss US soil once again, folks! But I'm waiting to September now to celebrate with ALL my fellow citizens in North America and other places to celebrate the end of this TYRANNY.

The cost of getting to Andover is so minimal; the fees are so economical. THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE's efforts must be directed!

Let's get WAR CRIMES on the table, Keep writing the media now that Major General Tuguba has had the guts to use the words that should have been used

Personally, although I have emailed NUMEROUS groups, no one yet has offered me press credentials to attend this conference - it was a PRESS passport that was taken away from me in the US, and I am pursuing legal avenues to get it back. I am pursuing legal avenues to get my Canadian passport back (as all my IDs were thrown away .. )

Take back your lives! Stay focussed! The next two weeks are the most exciting times in human history.

The 9/11 "party" is OVER.

No more WAR CRIMES

No more pardons

STAY FOCUSSED !!

I am MAD AS HELL and I ain't taking it ANY MORE !!

(I am also creative, resourceful, passionate and clever - and no one's gonna stop the TIDE OF HISTORY, not on my watch .. )

GET INVOLVED!

Once i have been contacted by who I think will be the US coordinator outside the law school, I will be posting to OpEd News with full details and would appreciate Rob Kall giving this the highest attention on OpEd News.

The horrible use of torture, rendition (which was extrajurisdictional and means there WILL be a war crimes tribunal and all parties held accountable!!) and - this use of depleted uranium weapons should appeal to anyone within the United States to go to Velvel's site and leave their name and number to GET INVOLVED.

We have until SEPTEMBER. Let's organize our asses off !!

WAR CRIMES, is not a taboo word anymore than IMPEACHMENT was !!

Come and meet the ONEderful people in Andover in September !!

Once again, the link for my blog,

www.ladybroadoak.blogspot.com

I am always at ANYONE's service !!

I think you can also leave your number at Joanne's blog (although I haven't heard from her yet .. she'll be delighted to hear from YOU too.

http://livefrankly.wordpress.com/

The location of the conference has been chosen for STRATEGIC reasons.

The Bully boys really have had their day. We have TWO weeks to get ourselves together as Good Citizens on both sides of the border.

Yesterday I got the MOST AMAZING, most incredible fabulous mind to work on the promotion of the conference, The Stimulator!!

http://submedia.tv/stimulator

Once again, I remind folks - write the ICC, by registered letter TODAY !!

Put in all your complaints about all the perpetrators !! That is a CONSTRUCTIVE thing to do.

Postal Address

Po Box 19519
2500 CM, The Hague
The Netherlands

As we say in 12-step programs: Keep the focus on yourself!!

I am so broke, I had some one agree to send me $500 by Western Union today, despite exceptional personal problems !! But I am PASSIONATE and can't be stopped - neither should YOU.

 

Why not book a bus from your city to the conference? That is something you can do TODAY. STAY MAD AS HELL and Don't take it ANYMORE!

impeach.to.end.war.crimes@gmail.com

 

 

 

by ladybroadoak (38 articles, 20 quicklinks, 12 diaries, 390 comments) on Saturday, July 5, 2008 at 9:51:36 AM
 


As a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.
Pat SmithAs a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.

Stand up for the children

“the crimson stains and depredations were so manifest that only those who liked the idea of thousands of small children suffering the most gruesome mutilations”.   Because this is how generations of children grew up in the Middle East; this is just one of the reasons I so venomously support this war and President Bush!  It seems liberals soon forget what the terrorists have done in Africa, Madrid, New York etc…If you are ever in Pennsylvania let me know and I’ll buy you a beer as long as you also remain respectful.

by Pat Smith (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 36 comments) on Saturday, July 5, 2008 at 10:57:39 AM
 


An "Old Army Vet" and liberal, qua liberal, with a passion for open inquiry in a neverending quest for truth unpoisoned by religious superstitions. Per Voltaire: "He who can lead you to believe an absurdity can lead you to commit an atrocity."
Ed TubbsAn "Old Army Vet" and liberal, qua liberal, with a passion for open inquiry in a neverending quest for truth unpoisoned by religious superstitions. Per Voltaire: "He who can lead you to believe an absurdity can lead you to commit an atrocity."

Doesn't matter from whom, a lie is still a lie

Patti Pace,

It doesn't mater from whom, a lie is still a lie. Your name is Patti Pace, not Pat Smith, and why you continue to play the Wizard behind the curtain of anonymity/false name gives coward to your imprecations.

 

Ed Tubbs,

Oakland, CA 

by Ed Tubbs (158 articles, 1 quicklinks, 22 diaries, 54 comments) on Saturday, July 5, 2008 at 1:36:56 PM
 


An "Old Army Vet" and liberal, qua liberal, with a passion for open inquiry in a neverending quest for truth unpoisoned by religious superstitions. Per Voltaire: "He who can lead you to believe an absurdity can lead you to commit an atrocity."
Ed TubbsAn "Old Army Vet" and liberal, qua liberal, with a passion for open inquiry in a neverending quest for truth unpoisoned by religious superstitions. Per Voltaire: "He who can lead you to believe an absurdity can lead you to commit an atrocity."

The lady needs serious help

Patti:
Please, just go away. As you have emailed me on other occasions, and suffer, by your own account, very serious emotional and physical disabling difficulties, perhaps it might be best for you if you sought the help you yourself claim you need.
Ed Tubbs
Oakland, CA

by Ed Tubbs (158 articles, 1 quicklinks, 22 diaries, 54 comments) on Saturday, July 5, 2008 at 1:50:34 PM
 


As a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.
Pat SmithAs a disabled female veteran I used my VA benefits to obtain a BA in the bs of political science. I am compelled to help our new veterans recieve a comfortable, productive future they so rigthly deserve.

Ed

Ed while you have claimed to be a homeless veteran who refers too half the US population as being racist bigots I think you have the serious problems.  After your various blogs on your perception of me, I have respectfully blogged you just once and you never where able to give me a correct answer/solution even though I offered to explain and solve your many problems.  While local residents here in Pa. have read my many letters to the editor, (which require a real name) and you actually have seen a picture of my home here in Pa. – You Ed are using a picture (if its really you?) from sometime in the sixties.  Seriously though Ed, there are many people who can do a damn good job of helping others but can not stand up for themselves.  And don’t forget the FEW really great people who don’t have to stand up for themselves, because history will do it for them.  A fine example of one of the few great people in this last category is President Bush!

by Pat Smith (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 36 comments) on Sunday, July 6, 2008 at 10:04:35 AM
 


Hater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired
John HanksHater of Nazis above all. Hobbies include activism, military model building, military history, exciting and vital conversation with retired crooks. Retired

I stand up a lot.

But, more importanly, I open my mouth.  I wish I could send you an image of my old car.   It is covered with my signs and almost every one of them makes a comment about the endless battle between the crooks (rich), the middle class (suckers), and the lazy cowards (everyone else).  My biggest sign says:  "The Power to Tax Is the Power to Destroy Liars, Bullies, Crooks, and Traitors."  Another sign says: "Support Our Troops.  Quit Fragging them for Bucks".

by John Hanks (1 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1186 comments) on Saturday, July 5, 2008 at 2:01:42 PM
 


A patriotic American, age 65, that supports his country but does not support fascist/criminal/corrupt politicians that abuse the US military for their own political/personal ends.
Jon PhillipsA patriotic American, age 65, that supports his country but does not support fascist/criminal/corrupt politicians that abuse the US military for their own political/personal ends.

I have been standing

The last major political party candidate I voted for was Hubert Humphrey. Hey I was young so what did I know? I wanted to vote for Dennis Kucinich but he was ignored by the tabloid/propaganda corporation machine known as Main Stream Media (MSM). Hey I am old what do I know? War and religion are the two most prolific and profitable businesses, since humans became the top predator in the food chain, that is one thing I know. Impeach and convict most of the current members of the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of the federal bureaucracy under RICO as members of the largest Organized Criminal Syndicate since the nazis. That is the other thing I know. Support America NOT corrupt/fascist politicians, bureaucrats and their corporate supporters. Any fool that supports the current batch of 21st Century nazis will have to move to North Korea to live in a police state as I and millions of American patriots will not allow America to become a police state. I will remind/enlighten you 21st Century nazis that there were many Germans that fought for Germany against the 20th Century nazis. Keep the faith patriots - we are in this together for our country and future generations of America - long live America! 

by Jon Phillips (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 24 comments) on Saturday, July 5, 2008 at 8:06:16 PM
 


I created a website www.votestrike.com for you the voters because whichever party you belong to they have failed you.

The website has ambitious goals of how to end the two party system & the third party myth. Modeled after the fall of the Berlin wall, the Polish overthrow of the communist government & the Phillipines removal of Marcos. All accomplished without firing a shot.

But we do not rely on the failed tactics of the past instead we use the election system & the ve...

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chris riceI created a website www.votestrike.com for you the voters because whichever party you belong to they have failed you.

The website has ambitious goals of how to end the two party system & the third party myth. Modeled after the fall of the Berlin wall, the Polish overthrow of the communist government & the Phillipines removal of Marcos. All accomplished without firing a shot.

But we do not rely on the failed tactics of the past instead we use the election system & the ve...

to see more of bio, click on member name

lol- STILL STANDING

I had wrote at my site that we need to stand up like men on election night & not be sheep at the voting booth, or cry babies at home. And got the same response-

 'I'm standing, now what?'.

Since nothing ever happens in Congress without a lobbyist we decided that 'impeachment was off the table' (Pelosi, Fienstein, etc., etc.) And would need a push, a shot of democracy if you will. And came up with General Strike starting in Sept. & an Economic strike starting now. The idea is taking off and has become a global general strike with France and Italy on board and Canada and Germany as possibles.

We believe a global general strike with bring the 'powers that be' the international corporations to their knees.

For more details please visit- www.votestrike.com

And GREAT article- request permission to reprint, with authors name/bio, etc.

by chris rice (57 articles, 32 quicklinks, 15 diaries, 162 comments) on Saturday, July 5, 2008 at 9:36:57 PM
 

 

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