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Tips for Conservatives Fleeing the Country

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The last time a Democrat became President, I remember a lot of hardcore conservatives saying they were so upset by Bill Clinton being in the White House that they were seriously considering packing up and moving overseas. Of course, most of them didn't, and that's probably because they realized that, with a Republican majority in the House and Senate, there wasn't a whole lot of damage that Clinton could do.

(If anything, he probably did more damage to the Democratic party, itself, what with all the scandals that followed his Presidency. I know I'LL never look at cigars the same way again...)

But this election is different. Not only do we have a man in the White House that is, to hear some say it, the most liberal socialist person to ever hold office, but we've had a near-sweep over both sides of the Capitol, too. As of this moment, if Barack Obama has a questionable agenda for America, there's very little to stand in his way of seeing it done.

So, I suspect a lot of the hardcore right-wing partisans who SERIOUSLY thought about fleeing for other countries back in 1996 are, almost ten years later, SERIOUSLY considering it all over again. And I'm sure your friends and family are telling you that you're being silly, and you need to reconsider, and you'd be losing more than you'd gain, and you should wait until 2010... you know, sensible advice.


Me? I want you idiots gone.

I want to see the back of every last one of you who made a talking point out of Obama's middle name. I want to hear the retreating feet of those who seriously think he's a socialist, a communist, or a friend to terrorists. I really want to hear no more from those who called him the Antichrist.

And those of you who were concerned about him being half-black, or a Muslim in disguise? Yep, I want you gone, too. Out of here. Vamoosed. Scrammed. Transported.

GONE.

But, in my quest for a F@#$head-free America, I realize that most Conservatives may not have the first idea on how to go about properly fleeing their country. It's a sad thing to say, but since our country tends to be so bloody insular, people on both sides of the great political divide are often flummoxed by the notion of packing up, packing it in and putting down roots somewhere else.

It can be a daunting task. But, as someone who's done it twice, I have some advice for you... if only to help get you out of my sight all the quicker.

(And yes, you're very welcome. Please, don't mention it.)

First things first, you need a passport. Yes, you have to have one. No, it isn't hard to get one. You can send away for them from the Post Office, and many of them have Passport days when they make it easier for you to go and get one.

Yes, you'll need to find your Birth Certificate because they'll need to see it. Yes, it'll take a while to get it, and your passport, back. But once you have it, the whole world opens up like an oyster.

Step Two is more complicated: Apply for a Job. Now this is the sticky part. People don't want you to just show up in their country and ask for something to do. I know, that's how it happens here with illegals, and given how many of you may have hired someone under the table I'm sure you know all about that.

But overseas they're a little more stringent about that sort of thing. Imagine that -- a lot of countries are actually more conservative than WE are in their enforcement of illegal immigration and working without the proper permissions! So this will be a good chance for you to see how that whole "stand in line" thing works from the other side of the fence.

Thanks to the joys of that wacky series of tubes we call "the internets," you can find any number of websites that where people offer up jobs to folks like you. If you put the words "international," "jobs" and whatever field you specialize in onto "the Google" you will find lots of open doors in many countries.

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J. Edward Tremlett is a lot of things, currently. He's back in the states after a seven-year stint in Dubai, UAE. He's been published in such diverse places as The American Partisan, the International American, The End is Nigh, Pyramid (more...)
 

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My idea is much simpler...

give me your address, I'll send you a shovel, and you can bury yourself.

Hey! I'll even dig the hole for you! That's because I'm a bona fide compassionate conservative at heart.

by Daniel Geery (26 articles, 95 quicklinks, 126 diaries, 912 comments [27 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:49:26 AM

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Reply: ...but not what I want

I don't want to bury these cut-and-run cowardly clowns in the dirt! That's Un-American. It's also unkind to the dirt.

I want them to go overseas, as I did, and see for themselves just how good they have it back here in America, even if they don't like the Government. 

It's a real attitude-adjuster. 

by J. Edward Tremlett (24 articles, 0 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 380 comments [54 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:23:18 PM

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Reply: We are going to have what they have

There has been a movement in this country to Europeanize our country.  Somehow people think that how they do things in Europe is so much better than how we do things here.  The people who think this only see the bad in our country and not any of the good and they have no idea what it is like to live in another country. 

What is funny about your post is that you think that is better here in American yet , I am assuming, it so bad here that you voted for 'change' not, perhaps, realizing the change you voted for is going to push this country closer to what the Europeans are 'enjoying' - a nanny state fueled by a huge tax rate on individuals and businesses.  

The tax rate is so bad in Europe that it stifles business to such a degree that no one even wants to go in business.  Talk to European Joe the Plumbers if you can find one and see what I mean.  I have and they hate their governments because for every euro they make they give a huge percentage back to the government who in turn gives it back to some of its citizens in the form of welfare which in turn is sent back home to the middle east.  I talked to one French businessman who had a great business making propellers for yachts.  The business was located outside of France because of the tax situation.  If he located his business in France, his labor costs would be tripled and the productivity of the French unionized workers would be nil.  If he was lucky enough to make a profit it would be eaten alive by even more taxes.  He loved his country but wanted to make a living for his family.  He told me no one wants to go into business in France for themselves if they have any brains at all.  That is the way we are headed.  Government first, business and the people second.  That is the European way.

We have some of the most economically ignorant people on the planet living in this country and they just elected someone who might, with the help of an out-of-control insane asylum called congress, really do some serious damage to the economic framework of this country.  I hope not, but the tea leaves I am reading do not look good right now.  Our only hope is that Obama appoints some level headed adults to head up his economic team. and that he can keep those people with that well-deserved 15% approval rating in line.

by Mad Jayhawk (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 652 comments [56 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:17:02 PM

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And, in case they can't think of where to go

here's a tip from Al Franken (who will hopefully be found to be Senator-elect):

"There's no excuse for apathy. No other country in the world enjoys our unique combination of democracy, prosperity, and respect for the rights of individuals -- except for Canada, Denmark, Norway, France, the United Kingdom, Japan, Australia -- and the BeNeLux countries -- also Switzerland and Bahrain and Sweden."

by lenngray (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 8 diaries, 77 comments) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:58:01 AM

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Reply: "And, in case they can't think of where to go"

They say Paraguay's quite nice this time of year :))

by Aurora (0 articles, 95 quicklinks, 52 diaries, 648 comments [5 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:01:16 AM

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Reply: Sorry

I don't get it.  What is his point?  There are plenty excuses for apathy or people wouldn't apathic.  I don't think that the genius, Al Franken, understands what he is talking about.  I don't think that people are apathic because other countries have what we have (if that is even remotely true) or because we don't have what they have or because other countries don't have what we have.  I think he, Al Franken, is a fool and those who vote for him are easily impressed by a washed up celebrity looking for a new gig.

by Mad Jayhawk (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 652 comments [56 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:29:52 PM

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Follow the 'royalists'

Ed, very cute --- and telling.

Yes, the conservatives, neo-cons, and just plain Ponzi cons might all want to leave the country now that it looks like democracy is poised to make a long needed come-back from the brink of empire.

Earlier in our country's history those who wanted to exit 'stage-left' when democracy overcame the British Empire, in that little dust-up called American Revolution I, seemed to favor Castin (Maine) when they thought that a negotiated settlement would be worked out like proper British aristocratic gentlemen --- but then they found theri travel plans being lenghtened to St. Andrews as the rebellous colonial minute-men got their mojo working.

Actually, in the original American Revolution the "royalists" who believed in the British Empire were not forced out of America, or subjected to harsher measures as in the French Revolution, but they were made to understand that if they chose to be loyal to that royal empire they might be more comfortable elsewhere --- and if they wanted to stay, they needed to renounce empire, and choose democracy as 'real Americans'.

Now is a time when the Pledge of Allegiance to America's democratic republic really means something to all 'real Americans' who really believe in, and profess loyalty to a public republic and democracy of all the people, and not a private and privileged empire of the few (whether that empire be a 'financial empire', a 'corporatist empire', or any other type of deceitful empire that tries to fool people into thinking that it is a democracy).

Perhaps ordinary right-wing nuts and the much more damaging ruling-elite 'corporatist empire' types, who got very comfortable over the last 28 years of controlling American behind the facade of their two-party, 'Vichy' sham of democracy, should be offered a choice of either declaring a formal oral and written Pledge of Allegiance to US democracy or given a chance to leave by small boats --- like the Ponzi crooks and elite of Albania did getting out of town and to Greece before they were greased.

 

"Tumbril leaving from track four.  All imperialist crooks, liars, private equity pirates, and hedge fund whores, this is the last call.  Don't hang around or you may be 'hanging' around."

by Alan MacDonald (11 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 131 comments [43 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:54:14 PM

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Reply: naah

No need for a loyalty oath. it smacks of totalitarianism.

Besides, one person's loyalty is another's treason, and vice versa. Who gets to judge?

 

 

by J. Edward Tremlett (24 articles, 0 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 380 comments [54 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:25:16 PM

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Reply: Follow the Royalists

When the people who remained loyal to their country and their king left they went for the most part to Canada and are known there as the United Empire Loyalists. Their family histories are much envied as they proved to be true to their beliefs and they are a admired  as a very important part of Canadian history. Furthermore a grateful king awarded them crown grants of land, some of which are still undivided and encompass immense value today as land prices have soared. You see loyalty does have its compensations.

by Archie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1750 comments [111 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Friday, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:09:53 AM

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Tips

You can come the Western half of Canada and barely know you're not in the US except of course you may wonder where all the worry about health insurance went. You see they don't ponder such things as it's taken care of by the big, bad federal government in far away Ottawa. Other than that western Canadians don't have much truck or trade with Ottawa except during elections every five years or so. No, but  you'll have to put up with skiing in the morning and playing golf in the afternoon or sailing if you prefer, that's if you settle in Vancouver. In Kelowna you will be surprised at the huge nimber of award winnig wineries. In Calgary you have to drive an hour on the freeway to ski but you will enjoy the roundups and cowboy heritage. Of course the oil industry with its Dallas style social setting may not be for everyone. But you could settle in Saskatchewan, smaller cities but more laid back unless you're in the diamond industry then watch out for international intrigue and heavy security. Manitoba and its main city Winnipeg is much more midwest in feel with everyone escaping to their summer cottages on Friday afternoon in the heat of a prairie summer. Luckily the whole province is covered with pristeen lakes for fishing and recreation. All in all you won't suffer to badly and of course Canadians consider their small but professional armed forces to be a neccesary requirement for these dangerous times but very few would ever want the military to be a sought after end in itself, no it is necessary but not a desired necessity.

by Archie (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1750 comments [111 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:31:27 PM

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We are not leaving

That's right. Your eyes have not deceived you. I just typed the words, "We are not leaving". Heck, I remember hearing from various lefties in November 2004 who said they were exiting the country. Yawn No mass exodus back then, no mass exodus now. I have heard a few people who said they were going to fly their flags upside down, which I think is silly. But that's it as far as actions. We conservative Americans - that's right, we are not idiots - will continue to fight the good fight. That's the way it always works. The party out of power huddles up and tries to figure out how to fix what didn't work. So forget about any flood of visa requests or one-way plane tickets out of the USA. We are staying put.

by Scott (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 744 comments [30 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:36:14 PM

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Reply: Good to hear

This article wasn't aimed at you, then, obviously.

by J. Edward Tremlett (24 articles, 0 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 380 comments [54 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:59:44 PM

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a good friend has already started his move

The stock market has spoken and given a vote of no confidence to an Obama presidency.

A good friend of mine has bought a small vineyard in Germany and will be closing his business here in America. He fears the new Obama taxes will devalue the dollar even further and cause America to slip into a deep depression.

Not a bad idea now that I’ve seen pictures of the fairytale looking town on the banks of the Rhine River.

But I think I’m going to stay here and demand my check from Obama.

by Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 4 diaries, 990 comments [34 recommended, 1 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:59:06 PM

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Why Flee

I am looking forward to getting my big $50 tax cut/welfare check (aka bribe), getting free healthcare, having my mortgage paid off, getting my kid's education paid for, , beautiful roads and bridges, etc. paid for by some one else, hopefully you or the Chinese, so why leave?  All I have to do is give up my principles and concern for my country and put my hand out.  Consider it done.  I can be just as stupid as the next guy.

I am really ooking forward to seeing Streisand and Oprah and Sean Penn and Warren Buffet and George Soros being taxed into poverty.  They should be the first to write the big checks  for 90% of their money to the government.  They can afford it.

by Mad Jayhawk (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 652 comments [56 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:38:14 PM

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Welcome Home to those who never left

I'd rather stick around and watch a Jimmy Carter re-run..    Nice to see you never left 8 years ago...  it really wasn't so bad.. Heard you Congress is trying to pass a new bill on seizing 401k plans...  like they do in Argentina... this will really be fun if it passes

by Don Bybee (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 116 comments [2 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:24:22 PM

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Reply: Poor Working conditions

I would hate to work in a congressional office if those fools with 14% approval ratings even think about messing with our 401ks and IRAs.  They have no idea what public is capable of if they think they can even come up with some plausible reason to do this.   401ks and IRAs are OUR MONEY and the Democrats better keep their redistributing hands off of it.  They will have to pull that money from the cold, dead hands of millions of Americans. 

It is better than even odds we will see Democratic sponsored legislation that will mess with IRAs and 401ks, eliminate mortgage interest deductions, increase capital gains taxes, tax social security, etc.

by Mad Jayhawk (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 652 comments [56 recommended, 3 rejected]) on Thursday, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:45:31 PM

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Helping them leave

As an Ex-pat myself (who moved out due to Bush/Cheney the second "selection"), I can help them leave the US, too.  Some things to consider:

1.  Yes there is a large amount of income that the US won't tax when you are resident elsewhere, but your new resident country WILL tax it

2.  It is hard to find a new resident country that is less socialist than the USA -- except for fascist dictatorships.  Most of the advanced western countries with better healthcare and other services than US are more socialist than the US.

3. If you have pets, it can be expensive and time consuming to take them with you.  We brought 2 cats, and it took over 6 months of planning and over $2000 total to get them here with us

4. Even though housing prices have plummeted in Europe recently, the dollar versus Euro and Sterling means everything will seem expensive to Americans moving abroad.  I guess they could go to South America or Canada -- oh wait, they wouldn't want to go to Canada (socialist!). 

Better yet -- please stay in Alaska, Texas, Idaho, and the othe red states and leave us other ex-pats in peace.

by Barbara Jacobi (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 1 comments) on Saturday, Nov 8, 2008 at 2:02:52 AM

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Reply: meow!

Oh Gods yes. We got two cats while we were in Dubai and had to pay a pretty penny to get them back.

Then again, we paid for the service where the kennel took them, got their papers done, took them through customs, put them on the plane, and then drove them up to our temporary residence after they came out the other end. If you did it yourself, it was less expensive, but by that time we were pulling out our hair.

by J. Edward Tremlett (24 articles, 0 quicklinks, 100 diaries, 380 comments [54 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Saturday, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:33:11 AM

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