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July 17, 2008 at 11:04:53

Time Travel: Yes and No?

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Time Travel Yes and No

There has been a lot of press lately whether “Time Travel” is possible or not. Many of us hear a scientist spout off some theories, Einstein is usually mentioned too. The fact is this; “time travel” is not possible physically, but it sure is spiritually.

The problem scientists run into is trying to make a physical theory fit spiritual laws. If you want to travel back to 1800, then grab a book, or close your eyes, and open the worm hole called your imagination. If you physically want to get back to 1800, it can't be possible. Ruff's law: “You cannot exist physically in 2 states, at 2 different places, at the same time and expect to be considered as physically whole. However, you surely can exist in 2 states at two different places at the same time mentally”.

Another thing I hear is that the speed of light, if somehow broken (imagination again), you could theoretically travel back or forward in time. Here is the problem; scientists seem to lack logic, and I don't understand how they miss the boat on this one. “Speed” is a rate. Speed describes (usually) the time it takes to travel a distance. Guess what? “Time” is a rate too! (Note: The multiple meanings of time are usually co-mingled to explain one thing. Is time “Past, Present, Future”? Sure. Is “Time” 1 second ? Sure. Two different things, right?). Time is born from our imagination, it pits against our mental being to our physical being.

There are 24 hours in a day, yes? But on Mars, a different “rate” is needed to describe time correctly to our mental being. Okay, scientists use the amount of times a Cesium Atom vibrates to describe an “atomic” clock (rudimentary example here). The amount of times an atom travels a distance is a rate. So when we are asked, can you go faster than the speed of light? Scientists will compare one rate (Speed) to another rate (Time), which is like comparing apples to oranges since the rate at which we derive time (Clocks, Days, Cesium Atoms, Light Years...) is made up to begin with!

I think the physical is separated from the mental (spiritual). And while all things are certainly possible, it takes the imagination to actually make it happen, to describe it, then to translate it to others for understanding. I hope I have explained well enough for another scientist to convey what I just said.

Peace Out, Gary Ruff

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Though he is of noble blood, Ferdinand has no desire to fight or rule. He would prefer to explore, to ponder, to love, and to smell the flowers. Nevertheless, Ferdinand is a bull and he has horns.
FerdinandThough he is of noble blood, Ferdinand has no desire to fight or rule. He would prefer to explore, to ponder, to love, and to smell the flowers. Nevertheless, Ferdinand is a bull and he has horns.

Good Question

I tried touching upon the human conception of time in a follow-up article I wrote on this site a few months back called Continuing the Spiral. The beginning might not make much sense without reading Star Theory, but the rest is pretty straight-forward.

Time travel is quite possible within the human mind. A group of humans living in a Utopian community might have a very different conception of time than those living in the rat race of the "real world". They would likely age at much different rates as well. Time flies when you're having fun, and so how does time treat a totally contended, "happy" soul? I'm guessing pretty well.

And another theory I had:

Once Upon a Time in Space Time

"There can be no question that human fantasy and delusion, the basis of religion, is infinite." - a comment I recently came across.

But then there can also be no question that human creativity and understanding is infinite. If we see humanity following these "two paths" into the future, then we are left with something of a conundrum. Do they annihilate each other in a showdown or are we left with humanity taking two different courses into the future?

Let me describe a brief scenario wherein this would make perfect sense. As we are humans and love opposites, there shall be a White team and a Black team (nothing to do with skin color.. maybe). There is a catastrophic event that is going to impact the earth - the long awaited Armageddon of some sort. The White side has a bunch of money and decides "see ya suckers" and takes off in their nifty space crafts to some inhabitable planet (by means of cryogenics, stargates, or just a really fast ship) with lots of seeds.

The Black team is left behind on earth to fend for themselves. Many die through starvation, war, and disease. But those who do survive have an incredible knack for it and have learned their lesson about what happens when men exploit and kill other men. The most Utopian society to date might emerge from the survivors of the masses who were deemed unworthy upon the ship.

Time, and humanity, would split. Never again would the Black team and the White team being interacting in the same space and time. If the White team is able to pick up or invent some awesome space/time travel device, then they would have the ability to go back into the space and time of the Black Team - but only when Black and White were both inhabiting the planet, because that is the only space-time of which the White team is conscious. The people in that space-time would probably consider them "alien" looking, as the human would assuredly evolve its physical appearance whilst traveling far from the Earth.

You might say, "Why doesn't the White Team just physically return to Earth?" The reason they couldn't just "come back" is that they would have traveled forward in time to reach their destination and then continue traveling forward in time to physically return to the Earth. By the time they got back to the planet, it could very well been consumed by the Sun or the Black Team could have died, further evolved, or moved on to another planet as well. This is the divergence of humanity.

This is just a possibility. But when considering the human brain, what is not?

by Ferdinand (17 articles, 4 quicklinks, 24 diaries, 198 comments) on Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 3:57:40 PM

Recently retired. President of a AFSCME local from 1997-2007. More a commenter to a blog article than article writer. Really enjoy well-written analysis of our times.
Robert ArendRecently retired. President of a AFSCME local from 1997-2007. More a commenter to a blog article than article writer. Really enjoy well-written analysis of our times.

We Travel In Time All The Time

If the author is claiming time is of the physical demension, he is correct. But spiritually, all time is at once. Therefore, time travel is possible, but it requires the spiritual entity enter first a physical entity to navigate time that is only fragmented when within physical reality.

As the spiritual entities penetrates the physical, one time becomes many times__like a hall of mirrors__and the choice always becomes the physical present, whether at the beginning of time or all the nanoseconds up to time's end.

So, we physically live in what is our concious present, but spirit can exist in the physical simultaneously today, yesterday, decades and centuries ago__and equally in the time line a minute from now, years, decades to the infinite.

We travel in time all the time in our dreams to monitor what the rest of our other selfs are doing. Einstein did this well, as most geniuses do.

Traveling through time is a piece of cake if you know who and what you really are. Some very special mushrooms can help, too.

Go ask Alice.

by Robert Arend (3 articles, 14 quicklinks, 17 diaries, 172 comments) on Thursday, July 17, 2008 at 6:16:32 PM

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Jim ArnoldA member of Democratic Circles (DemocraticCircles.org), responsible for Internet publicity. A former visitant of UC Santa Cruz, union boilermaker, ex-Marine, Vietnam vet, anti-war activist, dilettante in science with an earth-shaking theory on the nature of light (which no one will consider), philosopher in the tradition of Hegel, Marx, and Fromm (no one listens to that either), author of a book on wine clubs (ahem), and cast-off programmer of ancient computer languages.

Time travel is unavoidable

We cannot avoid traveling in time. The present is a projection into the future, and it immediately passes away. To dream of other times is just to dream of other dreams, dreams of other passing projections. So let's present ourselves instead with projections of projects that we'll welcome as they come to pass. There it is. Oh - there it was.

by Jim Arnold (12 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 80 comments) on Monday, July 21, 2008 at 12:10:48 AM