I sat patiently with the rest of America to hear the Supreme Court’s decision on the D.C. gun ban.The ban, according the justices is illegal.Heck, I wish I would have been a betting man – I could have made a fortune today.
I am excited to hear the import, but not for the reasons you might think.
We have people who own guns who want to blast criminals, neighbors, wives, in laws, etc. into the next world.There are criminals, neighbors, wives, in laws, etc. who want to send gun guys to the place where only the goblins go.What is not to like? It is a match made in heaven.You each want to cancel the other out and I certainly hope we see a whole lot of old west shoot outs in our future.
And, one can only hope the wind at your back is not at your face.Or, let’s hope you pray that you’re not a victim of your own success –
I have a degree in theology and a Masters in Holocaust History.
Speaking of the Holocaust, my, what the Jewish people wouldn't have given for a court decision similar to this one back in the day. Assuming of course that Hitler would have even paid it any mind.
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Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 649 comments)
on Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 5:08:47 PM
"And today, when I am asked that question, I tell people it doesn't matter whether you're Hungarian, Polish, Jewish, or German: If you don't have a gun, you have nothing."
KG
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Levin Sheridan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 170 comments)
on Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 5:17:51 PM
I still have an email from you that says you have a poodle and your wife takes it out walking...... Now, what is the truth, you have a poodle or not. I can produce your email if you like
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Rabbi (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 103 comments)
on Friday, June 27, 2008 at 3:51:34 PM
This would'nt have anything to do with lobbying efforts of the NRA? They are famous for twisting arms of anyone who disagree with them.
I grew up in South Asia - we did not see guns in our society and have survived beautifully for over 5000 years.
Gosh - how many people dying before all these gun owning toting individuals are going to wake up? Maybe the NRA members need to have people shot at in their own familiy before they propogate everyone owning a gun. So they want everyone to have the choice of owning a gun. Are they going to be able to prevent people from using guns as the ultimate deciders.
Can we file a lawsuit against gun manufacturer if one of our family members' gets killed or miamed by someone's guns.
Wow what a field day for lawyers and all!!
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wendynyc (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 38 comments)
on Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 6:21:29 PM
Consider yourself lucky. Others have not been so lucky.
The bottom line is that the right to bear arms is guaranteed by our constitution, just like the right to free speech. Both have been indirectly responsible for people getting killed, but that's the unfortunate price of living in a country with a constitution written for the purpose of recognizing the inalienable rights of the people over those of their government.
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Alan Williams (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 649 comments)
on Thursday, June 26, 2008 at 8:53:20 PM
The war on drugs is responsible for much of todays crime. End that & you'll see crime rates drop.
If having guns is the reason for gun crimes then how do you explain the fact that crime rates were lower in the past when there was less gun control? How do you explain the low crime rates in gun toting Switzerland? In Israel the many armed Jews may commit crimes against the Palestinians, but they don't shoot each other, how do you explain that? How do you explain the fact that the parts of the US that have less gun control also tend to have les crime? How do you explain the fact that UK & Austrailian crime rates went up after they banned hand guns?
The obvious is that guns can actually reduce crime.
Sorry, but you're presenting a false arguement. ou're not considering that the US is getting more and more violent as a result of guns, not the other way around.
You want to zap criminals, and they want to zap you - simply put, and the criminal is better armed than you.
Why bring Israel into this discussion. America is not Israel and Israel is not the US - two different cultures with wholly different values. Israel is your comment is an attempted slight of hand to draw attention away from the real message.
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Rabbi (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 103 comments)
on Friday, June 27, 2008 at 3:55:14 PM
Sorry, but you're presenting a false arguement. ou're not considering that the US is getting more and more violent as a result of guns, not the other way around.
Really? Let me repeat the question you ignored: If having guns is the reason for gun crimes then how do you explain the fact that crime rates were lower in the past when there was less gun control?
You want to zap criminals, and they want to zap you - simply put, and the criminal is better armed than you.
Actually, most criminals don't want to zap anyone, they want your money. I know this partly from first hand experience of being mugged on the street.
Personally, I don't want to zap anyone, but I will defend myself.
What makes you think the criminal is better armed? Maybe the gun control that you advocate? Though in my case the criminal better be well armed indeed if he wants to out gun me in my house.
Why bring Israel into this discussion. America is not Israel and Israel is not the US - two different cultures with wholly different values. Israel is your comment is an attempted slight of hand to draw attention away from the real message.
Isrealis are human aren't they? We can learn from other societies, no?
I notice you've ignored the other example I presented, Switzerland.
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Darren Wolfe (5 articles, 155 quicklinks, 94 diaries, 700 comments)
on Friday, June 27, 2008 at 8:10:21 PM
In my article, I never mentioned a thing about gun statitics - because statistics can be manipulated anyway a person wants them to be. How do we really know that the presence of guns causes a decline in crime.
If an armed criminal does not want to zap you, then, why do they carry a gun would be the next question. And, if you did not want to zap someone then why do you carry a gun. Is not the intended purpose of a gun specifically designed as lethal force?
You are the one who brought Israel into this discussion. If I wanted to talk about Israel, then I would have brought it up, but I did not. Stick to the topic and not try to side rail it. If you want to move to Israel and carry a gun in plain sight, then enjoy.
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Rabbi (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 103 comments)
on Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 9:51:44 AM
I want you gun guys to have your old west shoot out episodes.I want you to feel safe by walking around with your loaded guns.Personally I never bought into this be very afraid buy a gun mentality.
Potential criminals can buy guns and I think that they should be able to purchase a gun as they aren’t a criminal until they commit their first crime.The guns show loop hole should stay open – people who sell guys are business people who want to have a successful business.I also believe that people should have the right to shoot first based upon a perception – my aunt Marcie sees communist lurking every where and she legally carries a .357. Like the NRA, I feel that a person’s mental health should not be a consideration – the NRA helps the gun industry through scare tactics (eeck, the government is going to take away your gun) and there are people who work in the gun industry who are trying to make a living.More sales, more prosperity. Guns are big business.
I don’t quote statistics because I know how much they can be falsified – that includes John Lott and the NRA.
I want to the gun people to have their way – I want them to create the US they want to live in with guns permeating all of society.If the US is much safer, then, well done.If the US is far more dangerous and lethal, then, it is too late forever.
Please refrain from bringing other countries into the mix, they are not the American culture. They have different values and moral codes, and different social norms. You can't compare the Swiss culture, or the culture of Israel agains the culture of the US. If you want to do that, then heck, even Moscow Russia is safer than New York City
Drugs are not the curent crime problem just a part of it - drugs have become an American way of problematic life since about 1900 when places like Sears openly sold Heroin and Morphine. Drug addiction and drug selling even shows up after the Civil War........ Please, study history before making such wild claims.
My initial piece only said I was pleased the gun people are getting their way and I expressed a happy think that you may get your old west shoot out experience. So what is your point arguing against what I said? Read for understanding and assume less should be your new mantra.
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Rabbi (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 103 comments)
on Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 11:06:31 AM
After reading this, I think I will go purchase some fresh ammo. I have also been checking out some new steel... Faith and hope in America have been restored- .001%.
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Levin Sheridan (0 articles, 0 quicklinks, 5 diaries, 170 comments)
on Friday, June 27, 2008 at 8:01:43 AM
I certainly hope we see a whole lot of old west shoot outs in our future.
They have DVDs for that, cowboy. Go rent a John Wayne or Clint Eastwood movie.
In the real world guns have a deterent effect on crime since criminals have to worry about armed citizens. It isn't necessary to have shoot outs for guns to reduce crimes. Many times people use guns to stop crimes by merely pointing a gun at a criminal. This often goes unreported.
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Darren Wolfe (5 articles, 155 quicklinks, 94 diaries, 700 comments)
on Friday, June 27, 2008 at 8:57:52 AM
Clearly the "right to bear arms shal not be infringed" was put number two to protect the people from government when they speak out against government.
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Gallaher (2 articles, 0 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 608 comments)
on Saturday, June 28, 2008 at 12:29:09 AM
No one is really sure of what the second amendment means, unless of course you were there when the original discussion was held and knew James Madison. Possibly, you mean your tarot cards might be your insight
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Rabbi (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 103 comments)
on Sunday, June 29, 2008 at 9:56:28 AM
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