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October 12, 2008 at 23:49:53
Promoted to Headline (H2) on 10/12/08: by Kenneth Anderson Page 1 of 1 page(s) |
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"Barack Obama is ahead right now in many of the battleground states -- the same states where investigations are under way for voter fraud. Is this a coincidence?"
Clearly, this is not a coincidence. These "investigations" are being triggered by local Republican agents. They represent a direct response to the looming electoral defeat of John McCain and are occurring in conjunction with GOP-orchestrated challenges to new voter registration. But the Fox News implication is exactly reversed from reality, ridiculously claiming that pre-election polls of an Obama surge in swing states must be somehow be the result of fraudulent voter registrations.Fox News, in the middle of their Brit Hume panel discussion (Brit wasn't there), didn't "bat a TV eye," nor mentioned a word about the news conference, but–after a commercial break–continued with an "ACORN" report (and alleged ties to Obama) throughout the entire time that Paulson was speaking to the nation, and to the world, about one of the worst financial crises we have ever faced.
The purpose of the narrative cannot be too lightly stated. In the event that GOP election rigging, voter disenfranchisement and the expected waves of confusion, failing machines and voter challenges at the polls on election night fail to deliver John McCain a win in November, "voter fraud" will the first thing to ring out from Republicans across the country. The narrative now being trucked out on the campaign trail and bellowed by the likes of Sean Hannity will serve in the event of an electoral loss to cast enormous doubt on the legitimacy of an Obama win. Lawsuits will be likely.
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no evidence at all....
As of July 2008, at least three ACORN workers have been convicted of voter fraud in Kansas City, and one is awaiting trial. These ACORN workers in Kansas City flooded voter registration rolls with over 35,000 false or questionable voter registration forms. by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 829 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:49:22 AM
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Reply: Just curious..
were you quoting from Michelle Malkin's column (August 7, 2008) or directly from Rep. Tom Feeney's (R-FL) letter to Attorney General Mukasey? by David Spangenburg (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:00:43 PM
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Reply: Yes, no evidence
Watch Fox News much? Because that seems to be the only way you could barf up this nonsense. As law enforcement will confirm, ACORN itself helps prosecute any employees who submit fraudulent registrations. They liken the situation to employees who shoplift or otherwise steal from employers. ACORN quality control flags potentially false registrations, turns them into election boards, which they must do as required by law. Key Facts: 1. In order to help 1.3 million people register to vote, we hired more than 13,000 registration assistance workers r. As with any business or agency that operates at this scale, there are always some people who want to get paid without really doing the job, or who aim to defraud their employer. Any large department store will have some workers who shoplift. Furthermore, there is no evidence that a phony registration form ever leads to the registrant voting illegally. It just doesn't happen. The fraudulent forms are the result of individual ACORN employees, who, for one reason or another, choose not to do the actual work, but fill in false registrations in an effort to fill in their numbers. ACORNS fires such employees and cooperates in their prosecution. I find it hard to believe that anyone visiting OpEd News doesn't understand this. There have been multiple sources of information about ACORN and their record in prosecuting employees who have been found falsifying voter registrations. Your ignorance here is astonishing, considering the site you have visited in order to make this comment. Either that, or you're just a troll. In which case, shame on me. by Kenneth Anderson (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:48:42 PM
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Reply: I'm no troll
My comment was directed at Scheetz's response not your article! by David Spangenburg (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:03:55 PM
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NO evidence of widespread illegal immigrant registration
On the other silly point, the latest news coming out of Texas: _________________ WASHINGTON - County elections administrators reject the conclusions of a report alleging that up to 333,000 noncitizens may be registered to vote in Texas, saying there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the Lone Star State. He said he couldn't completely discount Mr. Simcox's findings. "We probably have some noncitizens on the rolls, just like we probably have some dead people or some felons on the rolls, but it's not a big problem," Mr. Raborn said. "If they're illegal aliens, they're going to stay under the radar." ___________________ CIS is described by the National Immigration Forum as "militant anti-immigrant," which seeks to blame everything on illegal immigrant. Simmcox an CIS are xenophobic nutters. by Kenneth Anderson (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:01:46 PM
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Response to Sheetz, too
No, no, Sorry David. I was responding to him, too. Sorry for the confusion. by Kenneth Anderson (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:06:04 PM
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Reply: BTW
if you are going to use my name, please spell it correctly. by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 829 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:39:29 PM
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Wow the GOP is going all out on this
The hypocrisy is stunning. The GOP stole the past two presidential elections with ACTUAL millions of votes falesly recorded or completely disappeared on electronic voting machines and now their plan for this election appears to be that after they lose they will scream and squeal voter fraud on the Democrats. It is unbelievable. It doesn't matter that the actual successfully prosecuted cases of voter fraud can be counted on one hand and the number of votes that were not mistakes but rather purposeful attempts at voter fraud can be counted on two hands. Yet they make ludicrious accusations and claims that aren't proven or based in any fact and don't even involve actual votes that have been cast. by E. Nelson (40 articles, 8 quicklinks, 26 diaries, 511 comments [57 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:19:51 PM
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LINKS
On May 17, Carmen R. Davis became the latest casualty of an ongoing case of election theft on a grand scale. Davis, 38, a former ACORN worker, pleaded guilty in Kansas City federal court to filing false election paperwork. She had been among several defendants earlier charged with voter registration fraud and/or identity theft. Rathke and other ACORN leaders insist that the indictments were part of an organized effort to suppress minority turnout at the polls. But as Union Corruption Update indicated at length back in January, the evidence is damning: ACORN activists in the Kansas City and St. Louis areas padded the voter rolls with 35,000 or more fraudulent or questionable registration cards. The link is in the beginning of the piece... I am just countering the ludicrous notion that there is no evidence concerning voter fraud... People have been going to JAIL from ACORN for years, and there must be a conscious effort to ignore reality to state that saying so is somehow wrong, or that it probably IS happening now, is a GOP tactic... I have seen the Republicans AND the DEMOCRATS do all sorts of things to make elections go their way. for example... After making sure that it is next to impossible for a 3rd party canditate to appear on a PA ballot, depending on who needs our candidate to draw votes from, we are either helped by republicans or democrats to BE on the ballot.. I have seen ALL SORTS of criminal activity regarding the ballots and voting machines, and almost NONE of it goes to trial.. Why?? because BOTH major PARTIES ARE GUILTY AS HELL! No evidence? PLEASE.. There is plenty of evidence, only nobody wants to take it to court because the election will have been over, and nobody cares at that point. Ciao, CZ by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 829 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:37:02 PM
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Evidence
Steve, Certainly, ACORN workers have been convicted of fraud in voter registrations. That is not the dispute. The dispute is the extent of it. And we must be careful to make the distinction between fraudulent registrations and "voter fraud," which implies actual fraud in casting a vote. That is where the evidence is completely lacking. No one has found a link -- at all -- between phony voter registrations, which are after all just forms, and any of those registrants casting illegal votes. Linking false voter registration with fraudulent voting is a false equivalence, as I stated at the beginning of the article. You also fail to note that ACORN, as an organization, is the one that flagged Davis's phony registration forms. Beware of these insane numbers from the NPLC. There is no evidence that Davis turned in 35,000 false registrations. From the DoJ USA office in Missouri: "According to today's indictment, Davis used another person's Social Security number when she was employed as a voter registration recruiter for ACORN in August and September 2006. Davis allegedly caused three false voter registration applications – all in the name of the same person, but with different addresses – to be filed with the Kansas City Board of Election Commissioners." Three. by Kenneth Anderson (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:54:39 PM
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Reply: Wow Steve
Thanks goodness for your watchful eye and the millions of dollars the GOP is spending to root out all of these 3 fraudulent registrations. I can sleep better tonight knowing that if Obama wins by 3 votes it will be fair and the integrity of the election will be sound thanks to Republicans like you. by E. Nelson (40 articles, 8 quicklinks, 26 diaries, 511 comments [57 recommended, 2 rejected]) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 4:10:58 PM
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Sore Losers
Even with the three percent margin of error, the Gallup still has Obama ahead. I wonder how many senators will be in Washington, stating that there were so many white people who were stopped from voting? Oh right, that seems to only happen to the black democrats, not the white republicans. Watch it, they are setting it up now so they can ignore the blocking of the black vote once again. Proud to be an American? by Yvonne (5 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 38 comments) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:06:30 PM
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Links
Steve by David Spangenburg (9 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 18 comments [1 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:18:12 PM
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More Support for Kenneth Anderson's article
Here is Mark Crispin Miller's latest posting -- an article regarding ACORN in Ohio: http://election-news-usa.blogspot.com/2008/10/mcm-acorn-and-ohio-gop.html (you have to scroll down past the charts and tables to get to the article). We cannot announce it too much: VOTER FRAUD IS NOT RELEVANT!!!!! IT IS TRICKERY USED BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, INITIALLY IN MARCH 2005, TO DISTRACT FROM ELECTION FRAUD. There is no evidence that Voter fraud has affected the results of any election. There is a great deal of evidence that Election Fraud, through the use of electronic voting machines, vote suppression and voter registration purging (and more), has twice put an administration in power that has directly caused the deaths of more than a million people (according to the Lancet study). Hmmmm, which one is consequential, eh? See my own September 27th take on this subject, Busting the Fraud of Voter Fraud. Thankyou, Mr. Anderson. We must keep putting the word out. by Barbara Bellows-TerraNova (25 articles, 1 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 83 comments) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:13:12 PM
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Danger?
I am sorry to break in to a most important discussion on the demonization of Acorn. But something frightening just happened on David Gregorys' Race to the White House Show on MSNBC. A senior McCain spokesperson was being interviewed. He was asked how McCain could change the dynamics at this late date. The spokesman said there may be an unforeseen crisis AND HIS SCREEN WENT BLANK, leaving Gregory stunned. He came back on 2 minutes later and Gregory did not ask what he meant by unforeseen crisis. The spokesman was visibly nervous and spoke to a dumb question for a few seconds and then left the air. What are these guys up to. They see an election slipping away. What lengths will the go? This question about Unforeseen Crisis must be answered. I am Emailing MSNBC to demand a clarification of this, and if you think I am not overreacting I hope you all do the same. Tnut. by Tnut (16 articles, 0 quicklinks, 16 diaries, 49 comments) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:54:16 PM
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LOOK WHAT THE BRITISH ARE READING TODAY
The Republican Voter Fraud Hoax by our own American investigative blogger and Election Integrity activist Brad Friedman, of www.bradblog.com . Brad should know about Voter Fraud. He was the one who discovered the man behind the entire voter fraud hysteria that began in 2005, one supposed expert named Thor Hearn, who, oops, just also happened to have much more expertise as the Bush/Cheney 2004 campaign's General Counsel. by Barbara Bellows-TerraNova (25 articles, 1 quicklinks, 2 diaries, 83 comments) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:24:17 PM
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ACORN Keynote Speaker: John McCain
This iust keeps getting better and better. John McCain was a keynote speaker at a February 2006 ACORN-sponsored convention in Florida. by Kenneth Anderson (20 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 23 comments) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:45:55 PM
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I find it interesting...
by steve scheetz (4 articles, 0 quicklinks, 3 diaries, 829 comments [52 recommended, 0 rejected]) on Monday, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:34:29 PM
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