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Dennis Kucinich Interview, 1-30-12

This is the second half of the transcript of my interview. Here's the link to the first half:  Dennis Kucinich Interview Transcript 1/30/2013 Part 1

I interviewed Dennis Kucinich on Jan 30th. Here's a link to the audio podcast:    Dennis Kucinich Interview Jan 2013    

Thanks to  Don Caldarazzo doing the transcript.

First, here's a reminder of where the interview left off, in italics, indented:

Rob Kall:    I'm going to interrupt because I had a different question in mind.  I know that Congress, the House, is obsessed with Benghazi, but I was really more talking about, in general, how Hillary did.  She brought the war, like you said, to Libya.  Overall, as the Secretary of State, what was your impression of the job she did? 

Dennis Kucinich:   Well, she didn't work independently of Barack Obama.  The fact of the matter is that the United States has extended aggression into many countries: into Pakistan, into Libya, into Somalia and other countries; and that's through the cooperation of the State Department, the Department of Defense, and the CIA.  Do I, Did I support that policy?  No!  Absolutely not.  But this is a policy that's set by the Obama administration, together with the State Department, the Central Intelligence, and the Department of Defense. 

Rob Kall:   (interjects) So...

Dennis Kucinich:   I want to point something out Rob.  (continues) And in some cases, if you take Libya for example, DoD, through Secretary Gates, opposed it.  He opposed it.  So, the policy is still going to be set by the White House and the Secretary of State is going to carry it out.  She doesn't work independently, but she did have great influence.  No question about it.

Rob Kall:   So basically, when people say, "She's been an incredible Secretary of State," she's basically been graded following Obama's war orders, and what have you.

Dennis Kucinich:   That's what a cabinet member does!

Rob Kall:   Yeah, yeah.



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Here is where the second half of the transcript begins

Dennis Kucinich:   They don't carry out their own program.  When President Obama congratulates Secretary Clinton, he's congratulating himself.

Rob Kall:   Yes.  So let's talk then about the policy that she implemented.  It sounds like you weren't that happy with them.

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Rob Kall has spent his adult life as an awakener and empowerer-- first in the field of biofeedback, inventing products, developing software and a music recording label, MuPsych, within the company he founded in 1978-- Futurehealth, and founding, organizing and running 3 conferences: Winter Brain, on Neurofeedback and consciousness, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology (a pioneer in the field of Positive Psychology, first presenting workshops on it in 1985) and Storycon Summit Meeting on the Art Science and Application of Story-- each the first of their kind.  Then, when he found the process of raising people's consciousness and empowering them to take more control of their lives  one person at a time was too slow, he founded Opednews.com-- which has been the top search result on Google for the terms liberal news and progressive opinion for several years. Rob began his Bottom-up Radio show, broadcast on WNJC 1360 AM to Metro Philly, also available on iTunes, covering the transition of our culture, business and world from predominantly Top-down (hierarchical, centralized, authoritarian, patriarchal, big)  to bottom-up (egalitarian, local, interdependent, grassroots, archetypal feminine and small.) Recent long-term projects include a book, Bottom-up-- The Connection Revolution, debillionairizing the planet and the Psychopathy Defense and Optimization Project. 

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