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Pelosi and Torture - Bombshell Evidence that the CIA Invented Evidence of Informing Democrats

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Watching today's press conference where House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) tried to defend herself against allegations she was briefed about enhanced interrogation techniques prior to their use was itself torturous. See "Pelosi Accuses CIA of 'Misleading' Her on Interrogations" that says among other things:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi... acknowledging for the first time publicly she knew alleged terrorist detainees were subjected to waterboarding more than six years ago...called for the CIA to release detailed notes from her own September 2002 briefing about interrogation techniques. She said today that, at that 2002 briefing, she was told the CIA was not waterboarding detainees

"At every step of the way, the administration was misleading the Congress. And that is the issue," Pelosi said in a heated news conference...

Today was Pelosi's first chance to address the interrogation briefing issue since the CIA released a detailed memo last Thursday outlining 40 congressional briefings given since September 2002 regarding the use of what it calls "enhanced interrogation techniques" on suspected terrorists. That memo included footnotes that appeared to contradict Pelosi's previous statements that she was never personally briefed by Bush administration officials on the use of such tactics, including waterboarding, a controversial technique that simulates drowning.


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)

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Believing Pelosi was becoming difficult. It seemed she was coming up with different versions of events. Then I thought about this a little bit. If someone asked me to recall and recount something I was told six or seven years ago, I would have problems doing so. Even if the event was a prominent one, I think I would miss details. Still, having seen several variations of her story about what she knew and when she knew it, there was the perception she was hiding or embarrassed about something.

A bombshell was dropped today in the form of a revelation that former Florida Senator Bob Graham said that the CIA claims he was briefed twice on torture but those briefings never took place. Senator Graham made these allegations on WNYC’s Brian Lehrer show. If you are familiar with Bob Graham, you know he is the guy that was lampooned for writing down everything that happened and each person he met every day in his journals. If something isn't in his journals, it never happened. As a result, he knows EXACTLY what took place during those two days on which the CIA claims the briefings took place and he was never briefed. Score one for Bob Graham's journals. To those people who liked to make fun of them, I guess they don't seem so funny now, do they?


Bob Graham

Once confronted with Graham's evidence, the CIA started backtracking and saying that they may have been mistaken about the briefings and dates in question. Can a complete vindication of Pelosi be far behind? Speaker Pelosi should be aggressive and demand an investigation into who the CIA informed and when. The bad perceptions some people still may have are intolerable. The issue of torture is one on which Democrats should and must be unequivocal. Republicans can try to justify torture and those who approved it if that is what they want to do, but for Democrats, it is as President Obama said, "We Do Not Torture". It doesn’t get any simpler than that.

Since it should be obvious to just about everyone by now that investigations is where this is heading, President Obama has to face the situation and deal with it. I know he didn't want to address this now, and truth be told, I would have preferred that this waited until after Universal Healthcare and other important initiatives of the administration were addressed, but there is no other choice left. Obama has to appoint an independent counsel to probe allegations of torture, war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the former administration.

Once we start an investigation, then we will see who starts backtracking on comments. Consider the various defenses the Bush administration and its former members has been using just in the past few months as written by a commenter to the above article at Emptywheel:

1) It was no big deal, we didn’t torture “that” much or “that” severely.

2) We don’t torture. Never tortured. Never hurt anyone…only saved lives.

3) If we did torture, it was the Democrats’ fault for not stopping us. And anyone who was tortured deserved it.

The country will be better for this investigation. Torture isn't just wrong, it is criminal and it is ineffective. An investigation would show how military intelligence officers tried to protest its use on multiple occasions and were ignored by the Bush administration. An investigation would show that the attacks that former Vice President Dick Cheney claims were prevented by intelligence gathered by torture were in fact thwarted with intelligence obtained through other means. Finally, an investigation and punishment of those responsible would show the world that the United States intends to live up to its creed and to the Geneva conventions on torture that have been in existence and well known to every member of the international community for the past 70+ years.

 

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Geez, we agree on something? by Cinderfella on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 1:29:47 AM
There is a fundamental problem with trying to prosecute here by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 5:30:20 PM
Two faced system by William Whitten on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:20:34 PM
A slight point of agreement. by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:48:41 PM
political power by William Whitten on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:07:59 PM
Really? Cite one by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:29:08 PM
tiddly winks by William Whitten on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 10:09:20 PM
cited law: by William Whitten on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 8:56:18 PM
That is not such a serious issue as it may seem. by Nathan Nahm on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 12:03:15 AM
Kudos by sometimes blinded on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:23:18 AM
This entire PR operation... by John Sanchez Jr. on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 8:39:33 AM
Good post! by Wisewoman on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 3:08:11 PM
Something does not make sense still... by Jeffrey Rock on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 8:42:06 AM
We dont have all the answers to that yet which is why by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:14:27 AM
yes by jersey girl on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 10:47:04 AM
This misinformation... by John Sanchez Jr. on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 10:54:46 AM
Republicans are all over Pelosi by Liberty Bell on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:18:13 AM
conspiracy theory??? by William Whitten on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:18:35 AM
Excellent question William by Munich on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 11:40:03 AM
Correction on number 2. by Munich on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 12:00:45 PM
I think you do not know what those words mean by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 5:20:11 PM
meaning by William Whitten on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 10:15:13 PM
Okay... by William Whitten on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 2:46:29 PM
Australian Midget Mud Wrestling in the Capitol by Harvey Solomon on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:19:23 AM
Harvey, your point was addressed by Tocquevile in 1835. by Mark Watterson on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 9:02:26 AM
simple simon says... by William Whitten on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:28:25 AM
Obama is addressing torture now. by linda selvia on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 10:40:21 AM
What?!? by Jeffrey Rock on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 3:27:57 PM
I don't by jersey girl on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 10:40:23 AM
I believe Pelosi by linda selvia on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 10:53:20 AM
"Rendition" by Paula Sayles on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 1:29:29 PM
Yes, yes and yes by Jeffrey Rock on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 3:31:22 PM
sublic pervant...at best by William Whitten on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 5:00:45 PM
You're counting on...WHISTLEBLOWERS??? by Mark Watterson on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 10:09:31 AM
The Honeymoon days are finally over by Devaron DLH on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 11:02:06 AM
There is zero chance of Obama appointing an "independent by Richard Mynick on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 11:15:09 AM
Help...I've Become Politician Intollerant and I'm Gonna Puke by boomerang on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 11:53:19 AM
My take on that: the military isn't really in the business by Richard Mynick on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 12:27:06 PM
You're going to have to eat crow on this one Richard by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 5:15:26 PM
Consider the indictments at Nuremberg. by waldopaper on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 11:29:57 AM
Pelosi and Cindy Sheehan by GL Rowsey on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 11:44:22 AM
Why don't we listen to the victims? by Mark Sashine on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 12:01:11 PM
Assume They're Lying! It's Politically Guaranteed! by boomerang on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 12:14:11 PM
I want to thank Steve Leser by Michael Shaw on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 12:51:12 PM
Lets See by Michael Cavlan on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 2:07:25 PM
So, bringing forth the evidence as it exists is... by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 5:59:54 PM
There is no Statute of Limitations on Murder by Jason Paz on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 2:50:43 PM
Obama & Torture by James Raider on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 3:56:37 PM
A Faith-Based Reality, by GL Rowsey on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 12:21:04 PM
I am confused by Mad Jayhawk on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 5:04:43 PM
I don't totally disagree with you by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 5:14:07 PM
Shaking and twitching by Mad Jayhawk on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:53:44 PM
Shaking and twitching by Mad Jayhawk on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:59:42 PM
Possibly. by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 8:05:41 PM
Liars by Mad Jayhawk on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:50:07 PM
"SLOPPY" dates???? by Wisewoman on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 4:12:03 PM
Killing isn't ok. by Jennifer Hathaway on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 5:10:33 PM
Grr by Jennifer Hathaway on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 5:18:58 PM
September 14, 2007 by William Whitten on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:57:21 PM
I'm sure you're right, Steven Leser.... by ken on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 6:45:40 PM
I still say the thought and logic is sound in theory... by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:25:22 PM
Bravo. by Wisewoman on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 4:17:36 PM
Two little Questions by Nemo on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:11:34 PM
I don't have all the answers. But, we should start with by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:53:35 PM
Pelosi made a deal in 2002 by Patrick Lafferty on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:50:55 PM
That is an easy bet for you to make by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 8:08:38 PM
Actually, due to the way you have phrased this, I'll bet you by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:56:03 PM
Who do you think is lying Mr. Leser? by Patrick Lafferty on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 7:15:25 PM
evidence that Pelosi is lying through her teeth by steve scheetz on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:53:01 PM
It's very simple by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 7:58:52 PM
I say bring on the investigations by steve scheetz on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 8:24:51 PM
In this we are in 100% agreement. by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 8:26:48 PM
Leser I agree; by William Whitten on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:27:46 PM
Let's start at the very beginning, where lies and false by Stanimal on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 8:31:27 PM
John Yoo by Nemo on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 8:46:45 PM
Yep, one of the GOP think tanks that was behind the Tea by Steven Leser on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 10:03:54 PM
Each and everyone of these posts by Munich on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 9:06:20 PM
When the many finally unite by shirley reese on Friday, May 15, 2009 at 11:34:22 PM
Thank you, Steve. by Nathan Nahm on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 1:22:26 AM
COTEMPO: Committee on the Even More Painfully Obvious by Perry Logan on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 7:55:06 AM
rest your case by William Whitten on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 10:31:54 AM
Your spineless liberal losers by Patrick Lafferty on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 7:37:13 PM
"The cream rises to the top, so does the scum" by GL Rowsey on Saturday, May 23, 2009 at 1:18:34 AM
Pelosi NOW favors a complete investigation of torture. by GL Rowsey on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 at 4:34:34 PM
Go ahead Perry > by boomerang on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 9:42:26 AM
Yes, by richard on Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 9:24:42 PM
Torture, illegal war: who knew ? by crispy on Sunday, May 17, 2009 at 7:49:49 AM